It’s called being optimal sweaty.
It hurts.
Submitted 2 weeks ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
SippyCup@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sweety.
Optional sweaty is the perfect amount of perspiration to have upon one’s person.
brax@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
*Optimal
Optional sweater is when you choose to perspire
night_petal@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
The misuse of the word is intentional and part of the joke. An artifact from reddit.
sjkhgsi@lemmy.lynas.ca 2 weeks ago
Optimal. Optical sweaty is the choice of whether or not one would like to be perspiring.
Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s having a thin layer of liquid perspiration that’s constantly boiling off and evaporating
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
This is what I immediately thought of. I actually thought it was an AI construction, as a joke.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Reminds me of this place:
(I remember just walking to school and it felt weird walking on a “slanted” street lol)
negativenull@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
At least with places like Denver and other western cities it’s pretty straightforward how it happened - everything built along the river. Access to the river was key.
Being a boom/bust city means that a much later boom they adjusted.
Then even older cities (think Boston) grew before any opportunity at planning could happen.
CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Denver was two cities - Aurora and Denver. One was built to align with the river, the other with compass points and then they grew big enough to smush into each other and neither was willing to concede to the other.
Also Denver’s namesake, a Kansas politician, never even visited. It was a failed attempt to lure him here.
Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My favorite is how 15th St just boings off of Colfax (15th ave)
njordomir@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I can’t see the pic, but I am gonna guess Broadway and Lincoln between 19th and 20th?
Interestingly enough, Denver has 3 main grids:
The range and township grid as the typical NS/EW grid, the Araria grid by DU which is largely built over, and the downtown grid, the last two of which are aligned to Cherry Creek and the Platte River, though I’m not certain which one to which waterway. If it wasn’t for one-ways, that area would be screwed up beyond belief. As it stands, it just looks a little odd and everyone needs to try to pick their lanes in advance. :D
negativenull@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
I just uploaded the image in my comment directly, instead of linking an external site. Hopefully you can see it now.
dhork@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Where is this?
jello@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Jacksonville Beach, FL
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
In my experience, many cities old enough in the US. Almost every biggish city where I live has the center of town laying differently than the newer, surrounding areas. There was a time when they oriented things different than how they plan it out now so now the older downtown areas look cock-eyed on a map/satellite image.
Angrydeuce@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Grids were more efficient for pedestrians and uncovered transport, but the caveat is that motorized transport, especially on large grids, will often be driving faster than is desired among the pedestrian traffic.
Which is why the ethos has changed off of grids to the windy, curvy roads that naturally encourage slower speeds…no straightaways to really build up speeds like you can with a grid.
Most town centers, which have likely existed before the car did in large numbers, are still laid out in a grid…but youll notice as you get farther out, when the neighborhoods started getting built in the post wwii era and the rise of the burbs, are not generally grids.
This is an easier way to eyeball how old a particular neighborhood is…with some caveats and exceptions of course.
A grid is still most efficient, but were trading efficiency for safety which is reasonable…weren’t too many idiots doing 60mph on 35mph city streets like we have today.
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Reverse image search has mixed results… A few say Florida, but the top one says Wyoming. I’d guess the one that says Jacksonville, Florida is most likely.
dhork@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
See my edit, it’s Jacksonville Beach FL
BorgDrone@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Ugh that grid pattern. Imagine living somewhere so uninspired.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Have you considered maybe it’s easier to navigate and plan a grid pattern? I wouldn’t mind uninspired street names like 1st, 2nd, 3rd St, crossways with N, O, P, Q Ave so you at least know which direction is which. Give me that chess board layout so I don’t need to pull up a map to navigate your city please. Car C1 takes Bar G5
baines@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
and then 14th SE doesnt connect with 14th NE
thanks portland
HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Sure but you’ll never encounter the magic of a crooked alley snaking its way through a maze of medieval building.
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes! I can get up so much speed on those straight roads! Blow through a few stop signs and I can easily drive all the way through a house!
Easy navigation isn’t relevant in a neighborhood of nothing but houses and play space, roads with curves are incredibly important to slow the flow of traffic
BorgDrone@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Over here in 2026 we have satnav in our cars and on our bikes.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Have you considered maybe it’s easier to navigate and plan a grid pattern?
With every corner looking the same? What a joke.
Hawke@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
Same car dependency grid but from different socioeconomic posh level.
(Actually the density is lower, so as a suburb it’s worse & traveling distances/city area larger.)
SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Agree, all the roads lead nowhere.
Danarchy@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
Lived on a grid the last 15 years and it objectively rules. The “objectively” part is the appreciating property values of the home I just sold, which outpaced those of cul-de-sac homes is my area over that same timeframe. Grid gang 4 lyfe
Saapas@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
Are those the two options, grid or cul-de-sac
treadful@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
plenipotentprotogod@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Inb4 Hank Green does a video about this.
treadful@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It’s actually a good story, too. I’m on mobile and not really qualified to tell it, however.
becausechemistry@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Indianapolis built the central mile square of streets aligned with magnetic north, but then the rest of downtown aligned with true north. It’s almost aligned, which causes problems at that border.
TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve lived here for years and never realized that’s why everything in the center looked slightly off center. Thanks!
becausechemistry@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
actually tho, flowing windy streets and roads are so much better.
- more interesting
- less of a drag track
- not depressing stroadie strips
- keeps people on main roads rather than just trying to cut through residential streets
- naturally manages driver attention
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Less intersections where cars can crash into pedestrians or other vehicles
lps2@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I wish, just check Atlanta - winding stroads as far as the eye can see
Zink@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Yes to all, especially the driver attention one.
I have two options when driving to work. One is shorter and takes straight level roads through the newest part of town.
The other way is slightly longer but it’s a twisty hilly road through the countryside.
I take the longer route every single day unless it is actively snowing or something. And now that hybrid WFH is a common thing, I don’t often drive in the snow.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
I mean, you can organise grids to be more or less stroady, and if you have too much of this going - like you have a medieval street plan - you can get the opposite thing where cars are forced through areas only suited to pedestrians, and everyone has to flatten themselves against building walls to make room.
Rednax@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Boston looks much easier to navigate though. Much clearer road hierarchy, meaning better flowing traffic, and less traffic near houses and shops.
Disclaimer: above statement is based on the image posted here, not on knowledge on the actual situation.
katkit@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Where I’m from cities like Boston are the norm. When I was in a grid city for the first time, I immediately got lost on the roads because everything just looks the same.
On the other hand, Americans seem to have a more intuitive sense of the cardinal directions than Europeans do from my experience. Which makes sense if you’re used to roads aligned with them.
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
As someone who drives through Boston often: it’s the worst-planned city I’ve ever seen. I am fairly convinced that the underground tunnel system is actually creating an eldritch sigil of chaos (a last Good Omens), and it is not uncommon to encounter a seven-way intersection, where two of those ways are train lines, but aren’t marked, so at night, you can accidentally find yourself on train tracks. It’s like if someone bargained with the Fey to make a city.
innermachine@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I am familiar with Boston, and the 2 times I have driven in nyc it was SIGNIFICANTLY easier to navigate than Boston lol. NYC was at least partially thought out, Boston is what you get when your road planner is a 3 year old toddler who threw a hand full of spaghetti on a map and said theres your streets LOL. Possibly the most annoying city I have had the misfortune of navigating lol.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Welcome to everywhere else in the world that’s not a fucking grid lol.
This isnt a computer where traces are made in 90 and 45° angles.BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
There weren’t computers when NYC’s grid was laid out either.
Zink@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Then there’s Pittsburgh. It’s like Boston but when you take a wrong turn you end up on the wrong side of a mighty river or two.
dlb@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This guy yinzez
spitfire@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Looks like everyone started a new road perpendicular to the shore line, and the mess occurred when the roads got long enough to meet.
sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
No they’re were designed that way. The names remain the same no matter how many times they turn. The street i live on starts off going west, then south, then south west and back to west again on the other side of town.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Bingo. Allow me to introduce you to the colonial French seigneurial system.
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Still a better system than Boston, having navigated both MANY times. To call Boston’s streets a “system” is an insult to the very concept of order.
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Speaking as someone who has been living in towns with rivers for most of my life:
This is the way.
My experience clearly says that you will loose orientation and get confused the moment you go to a district that is not alligned with the riverbank.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s tough to look at, but I bet it’s amazing for traffic calming.
sik0fewl@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
Came here to say the same. This design (or accident) forces north/south traffic to use the arterials on either side of the neighbourhood instead of going through the neighbourhood.
m0darn@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Lol get fucking rotated
Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Unrelated but, Theres a section of Prince George Canada that all of a sudden does a big U. The story i was told is that back in the day there were two competing railway companies, and one of them bought enough influence that when the city was making roads to the other company, they instead made the roads bend back. Image
bright@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Damn, capitalism is fucked up
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
There has to be some interesting history here.
A few other examples have been posted, but this is easily the wildest. It’s not even the same aspect ratio of grid, or at a normal angle. (And they’ve still managed to tie it in reasonably well)
merc@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
To me what’s wild about it is that it’s completely filled with houses, and the houses seem to all respect the orientation of the nearest street.
You’d think that they’d say “Ok, well in this section we have these two roads coming at a narrow angle, let’s just make this a park”, or something to make the places where the two grids join a little less ugly.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I think that area was built when nothing else was there, without the developer thinking too hard about its orientation.
As time went on, new development started nearby, oriented to a different geographic element, like a shoreline, or a river, etc. eventually that development met the old development, and they were lined up differently, and the municipality stuck with the new grid system orientation and just built around the old one.
novibe@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
The kinda shit I do in cities skylines when I get bored
BlackVenom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Or cities skylines 2 because the grid system is shit and breaks if you sneezed in the last decade.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I kinda like it. It’s just neat enough.
A lot of old city plats follow the exact pattern of that square, so I’d be curious what the sequence of development was.
Logical@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Idk why, but this is oddly satisfying to me.
nao@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
If anything a perfect grid would be mildly infuriating, it’s more interesting this way
RBWells@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Our house is on a slanty road and I’ve never lived on one before, my mind rejects it. The CORNERS of the house point in cardinal directions. It’s because we are near a river, some of the streets in my neighborhood follow its course, which right here runs southwest.
I just have to stop and think every time. Because I have only stayed on N-S or E-W roads my mind thinks our walls ought to be along those lines. I have to point at the corner and say NORTH out loud more often than you’d think.
varyingExpertise@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
Mandatory car dependency hurts, yes, everybody.
robocall@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They probably did it so they could squeeze one more house in when building the track.
FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Dear Americans
Please have a look at Lucerne
You’re welcome
Saapas@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
Would make sense to avoid people driving through the area. Grid patterns in general are kinda bad when it comes to traffic
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Someone followed true north, and someone followed magnetic?
MrEnitity@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
This was the intern using grid north instead of magnetic north, maybe?
One neighborhood in my town has streets at just the perfect angle for the winter sun to line up in the afternoon.
Maybe everything depends on whatever rule of thumb some 18th century surveyor heard was in style.
homes@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
🎶 where the streets have no name…🎶
anugeshtu@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s a Moiré!
fartographer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Is this the most efficient way to store 17 houses?
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So much more room for delicious maple syrup.
Fmstrat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Waffle.