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• Juice@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Science isn’t an ontology, it’s a method.

  God, what no humanities does to a mf

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  • TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Reminded me of this.

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  • PunnyName@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Exactly. I keep trying to get people to understand that it’s a process, just like running is a process.

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  • zloubida@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And a method in which beliefs are important. Not the religious ones, of course, but there are other kinds of beliefs.

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  • preussischblau@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Believing that science yields universally true results or is the only method of finding truths, however, is an ontology and something you have to believe.

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    • yesman@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Believing that science yields universally true results or is the only method of finding truths

      You just described science as though it were a belief system. In reality, science has a presumption that your ideals are false, not true. And a person who could only discover truth through science wouldn’t be able to dress or feed themselves.

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    • Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Here is a video by the channel Dr. Fatima (former astrophysicist) which I think has some intersection with this topic. I may have picked the wrong video though because I haven’t watched it in months.

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQdTmvqCgxI

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  • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I saw this earlier and really wanted to pipe up, but I just couldn’t bear it.

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• stray@pawb.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The placebo effect would like a word.

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• can@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  “facts don’t care about your feelings” energy

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  • kelpie_returns@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The lightning bolt doesn’t help either

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    • FerretyFever0@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah, a tad unfortunate.

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  • Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Literally I would not be caught dead drinking from that thing

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• OpenStars@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Until you turn your head and stop observing, and then it reverts back to mysticism. :-P

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• RedFrank24@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Unless it’s like… Sociology, or Psychology. They care what you believe.

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  • rustydrd@sh.itjust.works ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What do you mean? Sociology I kind of get, but psychology nowadays is a purely quantitative discipline (despite its subject being squishier than other quantitative sciences).

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• Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Haha science takes more faith to believe in than my religion.

  • Sent from my iPhone

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  • foodandart@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Sent from my iPhone

    I guess prayer and ritual made the device possible, eh?

    LOL!

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    • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yep that’s the joke, although I should probably have made it more obvious given that it’s the internet and there are real people who probably post this sort of stuff sincerely.

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  • phutatorius@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    /s aside, what it takes to use science is mental discipline, not faith.

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• blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

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  • xep@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Science isn’t a belief system. It’s a way of making sense of natural phenomena.

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  • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    • observe
    • write down observation
    • try to find a discernable pattern
    • test pattern

    We do not believe that it functions according to predictible rules, we simply look for rules and we have infact found some. That is why we can design a scyscraper and know that it won’t topple without trying it out first.

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  • Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    If we look at the way the universe behaves, quantum mechanics gives us fundamental, unavoidable indeterminacy, so that alternative histories of the universe can be assigned probability.

    • Murray Gell-Mann

    “it posits that the universe functions according to predictable rules”

    Not quite. Cosmologists accept a certain distribution of predictable phenomena within known parameters while leaving the door open to chaos, outliers, the as of yet unknown and unknowable beyond what we understand. From quantum physics to cosmology and the aspirational yet elusive grand theory of everything, science is prepared for a world weirder than we understand, and possibly weirder than we can understand.

    Just because empirical evidence and the development of predictable rules are a very fruitful line of inquiry doesn’t mean we believe that is truth.

    Philosophers of Science have rather lengthy volumes of work on the subject. I’m just a novice on the topic, but my take on the state of the subject is that we don’t accept science and even it’s laws as absolute truth, just a very practical, reliable, utilitarian form of inquiry and understanding which includes uncertainty (Heisenberg), probability and chaos. Scientists are prepared to abandon everything in exchange for somethign better.

    Look at newtonian physics. No one thinks it’s the truth, it’s just simpler and useful for everyday engineering.

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    • phutatorius@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There are rules that govern stochasticity, and especially the behavior of large aggregates of things that indivdually behave stochastically. It’s not a tradeoff of 100% locked-down order or headless-chicken chaos. There’s a continuum.

      No one thinks it’s the truth

      Within a certain range of scale, speed and energy, it’s an excellent approximation of the truth.

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  • TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    we define “science” as the aggregate consciousness of scientific researchers

    This is something I wish I could preach convincingly to everyone. The activity of scientists, a social group, are arguing and trying to convince one another that their interpretation of the data acquired by using their tools and methods is what become a scientific consensus.

    Forefronting the method (often a vaguely defined one rooted in a hypo-deductive model from about 150 years ago that most people learned in grade school) removes the relationships between people and other people and people and institutions.

    I wish I could find the paper but there’s a wonderful enthographic study on how scientists interact with each other to transform the discourse.

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• RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hypothesis?

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• Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Science doesn’t have an opinion on anything, it’s a process not a person.

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• nil@piefed.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  But is light particle or wave?

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  • Johanno@feddit.org ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yes!

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• the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That handle is on the wrong side, unless it’s for someone who is left handed.

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  • Tja@programming.dev ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It might be printed on both sides

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    • the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I want to believe you, but as a scientist I require evidence.

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  • BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m right handed, but often find myself with the cup in my left hand, because I need my dominant hand for high dexterity tasks, like writing, operating computer mouse, etc.

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    • the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I will accept this task-oriented reply.

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  • Pat_Riot@lemmy.today ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Maybe it’s a personal reminder to the drinker

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    • Dozzi92@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah so they can jerk off to their superiority.

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    • the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I would rather force my opinions on my coworkers

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• FishFace@piefed.social ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Needlessly antagonistic, anthropomorphises science… hmm.

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• sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Technically correct since science is a concept and doesn’t have feelings, unlike animals, and possibly plants, fungi, all forms of life, who knows, rocks? Idk.

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• GrammarPolice@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I want this mug

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• RockBottom@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Science is man made, maybe rules of nature?

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• starlinguk@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  When I pointed this out to a very popular influencer last week I got doxxed by them. Luckily after a week of people trying to fuck with my account they deleted the message.

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• phpinjected@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  science is religion with extra steps but more open and less bloat.

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  • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well someone here doesn’t understand the scientific method

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  • phutatorius@lemmy.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Science is religion in the same way as sex is an airplane hangar.

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  • Tja@programming.dev ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s very much not.

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• RedSnt@feddit.dk ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Well I believe the colour purple is real.

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