We also know elements can’t change to a different element through any kind of reaction or anything that would be absurd. I’m tired of these woke scientists.
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theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Have you tried alchemy?
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Alchemy was just a way to disguise a piss-drinking fetish that got way way out of hand.
DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The people that need to understand this, will not understand this.
87Six@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
They won’t even notice the “others” part because they refuse to wear their glasses
ulterno@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Perhaps if we started using SVG or PNG instead of compressed JPG for graphs, it would have helped a bit.
Furbag@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m just a Helium atom living in a Hydrogen atoms universe.
Frozengyro@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wow, way to be another Atomist propagating more Hydrogenist lies!
4am@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Down with the hydriaechy!
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It is UNUSUAL for an element to not be either hydrogen or helium. There is nothing wrong with it. It is simultaneously totally OK, an ABSOLUTE MINORITY position, and notably UNUSUAL considering statistical evaluation.
You can ascribe whatever meaning to that you want, but it is not a statistically typical position to be an element that is not hydrogen, not helium, and… Well… It’s also pretty unusual to have extra neutrons or something and be BETWEEN hydrogen and helium.
Again, this is TOTALLY FINE. And it is accurate in other hypothetical contexts which are in no way being referenced here. These group sizes are, of course, in no way the same.
It’s not super uncommon to change from hydrogen to helium, but in other contexts… Yes it is. Still totally fine.
Everybody is just getting along the best he/she/they can, but PEOPLE have rights, we don’t need to argue for rights by common-washing. It ain’t common.
kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I think you mean, pure H, He ash, and filthy metals.
shane@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Helium came first!
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
whats michael jackson's favorite gas
hee helium
33550336@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh yes, the statistical mindset. Similarly, one could argue that for large integers, statistically there is no prime numbers.
very_well_lost@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Statistically, there are no small numbers.
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 2 weeks ago
Depends on the definition of small
RandomStickman@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
Astronomers: correct
yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
hydrogen, helium, metal
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Science is for the birds
And birds aren’t real
Since birds aren’t real they are government spying devices
Since birds are government spying devices the government is spying on all of us
Since the government likes watching us they are voyeurs
Some trans people are also voyeurs
Voyeurism is diagnosed using science
Therefore trans people are birds
SanicHegehog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
trans people are birds birds aren’t real
Trans people aren’t real. Checkmate liberals. /s
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
If you follow the very perfect logic even further you’ll realize that trans people are actually government spying devicez
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I couldn’t really follow along with your logic maze, but I agree with you’re final point… which I think is,
Public transit is faster than birds.
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
A well reasoned and thoroughly salient, and logical, addition to my argument.
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
and monitor lizards
Kiwi_fella@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I have it on good authority there is a 5th element. I saw it in a documentary. It’s … perfect.
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
i love breathing “other”!!!
Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Mmm, nitrogen, my love. *passes out*
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
shoulda gone with the nitrous oxide… still passes out
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
I keep reading about how they don’t have enough helium supply. Is everything fake news?
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
The universe is full of Helium.
It’s just not concentrated here on Earth.
Aljernon@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I read that if it wasn’t for the US dumping it’s strategic helium supply, the price of a party balloon would be $50. Yes, Helium 3 gets attention for Fusion research but regular Helium is used heavily in imaging equipment like MRI’s. The Large Hadron Collider needs 130 metric tons of the stuff.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
helium3 is getting low, right? I had heard we’re looking at mining operations on the moon, but I think that would be a very bad idea…
nothing like unchecked capitalism in space.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I prefer Hydrogen. While I am not Hydrogen, I say everything else must be.
powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
That’s the point of differentiating between sex and gender. Sex is indeed binary, there are exactly two gamete sizes. Gender is what captures everything on top of that base.
goldenbug@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
If I remember correctly, not even sex is binary in humans.
Entheon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There are a decent number of combinations of the X and Y chromosomes, not just XX and XY. If I remember correctly there are about 6 more common combos
powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
You’re probably thinking of variations within a sex, such as XXY. They still have bodies organized around producing one of two gamete sizes. Nobody produces a third size of gamete
FoxyFerengi@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
XO, XX, XY, XXY, XYY, XXX, XXXX, XXXY, XXYY, and others have been recorded in humans. In addition there is Swyer syndrome, Chappell syndrome, and mosaicism in which the gonadal phenotype doesn’t match the genotype. There are also events during fertilization which can cause an XX zygote to gain the SRY gene from the father. The SRY gene is what initiates male gonad development.
Sex is not binary just because there are two types of sex chromosomes. They can occur in multiple combinations and result in a spectrum of characteristics.
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I prefer a simpler view… leave people the fuck alone as long as they aren’t harming anybody.
powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Sex is binary, because there are two sizes of gametes. Sex is determined in humans by chromosomes (and is rather messy, as you note). Sex is defined by gamete size, because it’s the only common factor across so many different species. Some animals have their sex determined by the temperature while they’re developing instead of chromosomes, but we can still differentiate between males and females by gamete size.
Nima@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
but aren’t those fairly uncommon? I don’t think he means mutations or syndromes. I think he means the majority of humans.
Slovene@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
In my case sex is imaginary. 😕
abfarid@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
Pro tip: square it to have real sex. But keep in mind that you might get negative sex.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Careful. The longer you stare down the looking glass at life, the more of a kaleidoscopic fractal it all becomes. Even “species” are loose, funny things.
MathiasTCK@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Exactly. Ring Species are a good example
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_species
In biology, a ring species is a connected series of neighbouring populations, each of which interbreeds with closely sited related populations, but for which there exist at least two end populations in the series which are too distantly related to interbreed, though there is a potential gene flow between linked neighbouring populations.
powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
What’s interesting about sex being binary is that biology is really messy and hard, and it’s kind of amazing that we found such a universal definition.
Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
You mean well but even in humans it’s not that simple (not to mention non-humans who might produce both sizes or switch). People who are identified as female at birth because they have a vulva may lack ovaries (or even the entire reproductive tract). They don’t have any gametes but because of their outer appearance they’re usually socialised as girls and only notice when they don’t start menstruating at some point. I assume it’s similarly possible to be born with a scrotum (and penis) but no testicles.
davidagain@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
powerstruggle does not mean well and is trolling up and down the whole thread.
powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Not producing any gametes doesn’t confuse things. Even if you don’t produce any gametes, your body is organized around producing one or the other of two sizes.
Things get more interesting in other animals, though anything anywhere near us is still either male, female, or hermaphroditic. When you get down into fungi, you get gametes that are the same size and instead of sex you have mating types, where a single species can have tens of thousands of options.
feannag@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Sex in humans really isn’t that binary. XXX and XXY exist for instance.
powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
XXX and XXY are variations within a sex. They still have bodies organized around producing either one of exactly two gamete sizes
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
sex absolutely isn’t binary.
powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I think you’re misunderstanding how sex is defined. It’s very much a binary, but that doesn’t include gender, and doesn’t include sex phenotypes.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Well I think we should caveat this as “in humans there is a tendency for sex to fall under two large umbrellas of typical characteristics” as there’s millions of small caveats for many mammals (its speculated parthenogenesis could naturally occur in humans under certain conditions).
Because of how early some features tend to develop in mammals there’s less variation than in other types of animals.
Outside mammals: Amphibians, Reptiles and Birds have many species that can change sex.
Outside animals: Plants and fungi are an absolute mess.
Squirrelsdrivemenuts@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There are also people born that do not fit in the biological definition of male or female. Same image applies to them.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Gametes are haploid, they’re not even potentially human by themselves.
powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I think you’re confused about the point of contention here
Skarklette@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No biologist defines sex based on gametes alone, there are many characteristics that make up sex. Why would you define it that way? Because you started with your answer, that sex MUST be binary, and worked backwards from there.
powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Unfortunately that’s backwards. Sex is defined by gamete size because it’s the only coherent definition across so much of the animal kingdom. As an example, did you know that male seahorses give birth? It’s true, but how do we know that they’re male? Because they make the smaller of the two gamete sizes. Same thing with female hyenas. They have a pseudo-penis, so why don’t we consider them male? Because they produce the larger of two gamete sizes
OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Lol, the sex prescriptivist
powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I see what you’re going for, but it’s literally the opposite. Sex is defined by gamete size because biologists wanted to describe the world they found accurately and coherently. It’s a descriptivist approach.
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Sex encompasses everything about the body including external and internal organs, hormones, (facial) hair, voice (level), body height, … none of which are binary. Reducing it to gamete size makes it meaningless
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
There’s at least a third gamete size of 0, as in, no gametes, so there goes that binary
powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Their bodies are still organized around the production of one or the other of two gamete sizes, even if they don’t produce any
Nima@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
the fact that basic biology is being heavily downvoted is horrifying.
apparently just taking a normal biology course is now cause for anger and confusion.
davidagain@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Powerstruggle is misusing terms from school level biology to make a political point and trolling people who are explaining the mistakes in it.
“Basic” biology - in fact it’s biology that has been oversimplified and misapplied to the point of untruth.
stray@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
I have a question for kind of the whole thread in general, regarding the gametes discussion. Isn’t it the case that a human is born with all the eggs they’ll ever have? So like if you aren’t both with any, you’ll never make any later? And if so, isn’t the only way to produce eggs to become pregnant with a child and make their eggs for them?
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The word “make” does a lot of heavy lifting when it comes to pregnancy. A word like “nurture” might fit better. Once the sperm and egg combine, it starts doing its own thing, the mother’s body just provides resources for it to continue growing and a safe place to do so for the first 9 months give or take.
So the way to make human egg cells would be to either be conceived as a female and have everything go well enough to grow those eggs, or probably some other methods involving introducing various chemicals to unspecialized cells to trick them into behaving as if that was happening.
rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
This pie chart is also a clock
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
The universe has low metallicity.
MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This would have made my high school task of memorising the first 20 elements ALOT easier.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
and stars are enacting the trans agenda to turn Hydrogen into Helium
igneis94@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
Everytime I wake up in the morning, it’s because the light of a star has made me woke. Coincidences? I THINK NOT!
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That shit is going to blow up in all of our faces before it’s all said and done, you mark my words.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m shooting at the stars rn to defend you from woke!!!
davidagain@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hollywood celebrities pushing the woke mind virus.
anugeshtu@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, shining and flaring like the beautiful little stars they are supposed to be!