And they mocked me for my WoW subscription 😗

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• bleistift2@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I still download my music. Two pros: I have control over where, when and how I listen to it. And I only download music I actually want to listen to.

  One con: Finding new music is harder (I imagine).

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  • takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    One con: Finding new music is harder (I imagine).

    That’s what radio helps with, there was also Pandora, but I didn’t know if it is still alive after Sirius XM bought them.

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    • Ch3rry314@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Find an online radio station you like and you don’t need Pandora any more.

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    • PacMan@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Shoutcast is still running strong! Also super easy to setup your own server directory.shoutcast.com

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I have found a ton of new music through KEXP’s YouTube channel.

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    • Flames5123@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Found the Seattleite. Can’t believe I didn’t notice your name all this time and connect the dots.

      I listen to C89.5! Website and app both work flawlessly.

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    • PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thought I remembered the name. That’s where Dinosaur Jr. played a legendary set.
      Also, I just realized they did another one more recently. I’ll have to listen to that one, too.

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  • null@lemmy.nullspace.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ListenBrainz is the solution for discovery

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  • AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Finding new music is harder (I imagine)

    In my opinion, it’s harder, but not even necessarily because it’s harder to do it in the end. More because it’s just harder to get started.

    For example, I find way more music I enjoy listening to through Bandcamp than I ever did on Spotify, but that requires having existing artists that I follow and can see their recommendations for, having a feel for which genres I actually like instead of a vague mental concept of what I like to listen to that I can then keyword search by in Bandcamp’s search/discover section, and hoping that the human curators on Bandcamp’s newsletter pick artists I like. Bandcamp doesn’t really have algorithms, so those are my only real options.

    It’s more effort, but it’s infinitely more rewarding.

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  • bvoigtlaender@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    One con: Finding new music is harder (I imagine).

    You actually should actually try to listen to web radio. Still have a subscription with Qobuz but been listening to bytefm a lot and they have some great djs (they have different shows at different time.). I personally found more new and great artist or songs than any algo ever did.

    One con: you’re too busy writing down the songs and you cannot really do anything while listening as you also too scared of missing something.

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    • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Do they not have a recently played? Can always go back through and shouldn’t be too hard to figure out the songs. Just note the time maybe atleast.

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  • Danquebec@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    On Bandcamp you can go on your feed page which shows albums based on the genres and artists you follow, and what fans you follow have bought.

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• reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You idiots don’t have a 6 cd changer in your car? Pathetic!

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  • mushroommunk@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I do it the old fashioned way. Giant binder of discs I get my passenger to flip through and swap in and out

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    • reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Damn a 100 cd changer then, mad respect

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Only one binder?

      Also makes since since music has not changed at all since 2003

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  • Shieldtoad@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No, but I have a USB stick with over 100 albums on it, so I can listen to the same 5 albums all the time.

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  • Covenant@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No man, my usb works perfectly

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  • TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    precisely

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  • Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My car doesn’t even have a CD slot :(

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• medem@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  A couple of years ago, I had a Napster subscription (the reborn, legal variant of it). At first, I was happy to have unlimited access to music, then after 2 years I realised that I was paying 120 EUR a year for music I’ll never own, so I cancelled the subscription and put my yearly budget for music to exactly that amount. It yields more than enough given I buy used CDs, and then digitalise them. That way I own the physical media as backup AND am able to transfer the digital tracks unfettered across my devices AND with no need for DRM or shitty proprietary applications.

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  • InFerNo@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You gotta put in the effort, which most people are too lazy to do

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• Drusas@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This would be right if not for the fact that Spotify will regularly introduce you to music that you might like and otherwise might not have heard of. That can be worth paying for.

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  • DmMacniel@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We had scrobbling services before Spotify and we will have them afterwards.

    See Last.fm and ListenBrainz.org

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    • Anivia@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ListenBrainz.org

      I signed up for this about 2 months ago because someone on here recommended it. It’s absolutely garbage unless you only listen to radio music. I listen to industrial hardcore and uptempo about 90% of the time, the remaining 10% are a pretty even split between hard rock and radio music. It only recommends me radio music, not a single hardcore track

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  • howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I would argue that this is the entire value proposition of Spotify. I may not own the music, but I have all the artist and song names. I can always re-acquire them at any time.

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  • Meron35@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Except that as part of its enshittification Spotify has intentionally changed its algo to push people into more and more homogenous “beige”, nothing music. It has become so prolific that Spotifycore has become a term to describe what happens when you let Spotify autoplay.

    With the rise of AI, Spotify is now producing and recommending beige music that is produced on an industrial scale, at the expense of actual artists.

    Mood Machine go brrr

    Mood Machine by Liz Pelly review – a savage indictment of Spotify | Music books | The Guardian - theguardian.com/…/mood-machine-by-liz-pelly-revie…

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    • Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is 100% true, and the reason I left Spotify. Back to buying records and CDs online and in niche record stores (I live in a metropolis, so that works even for obscure music). I also got a tidal subscription, and I like the recommendations from there much more. Bandcamp & SoundCloud newsletters are also great for suggestions.

      But now, since collecting records and CDs, I find myself spending much more time with individual albums and critical listening, and relying less on playlists and suggestions. Anyway, Spotify is just garbage now…

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  • whatsisface@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is why I use Spotify and why it’s gotten so much worse over the last year.

    My blocked artists list used to be empty, but now it feels like I’m blocking every third new artist for being AI.

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  • turdcollector69@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There’s a reason music piracy is still niche compared to games or movies/tv.

    Spotify is still a good deal to me. I’ll gladly pay $12 a month to not have to go through the hassle of torrenting and organizing music.

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  • Iheartcheese@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I love starting out with one song and just letting the algorithm do it’s thing. It comes up with new shit for me all the time.

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• Vespair@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  …are people really paying for a music subscription service to listen to the same music on repeat? I pay a service because I listen to like at least 4 new albums every week, minimum.

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  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It took me 10 listens to get into Jimi Hendrix. You are consuming quantity but quality requires effort.

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    • Gonzako@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      or self inducing yourself into liking by listening to it so much

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    • Vespair@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is making some significant assumptions, don’t you think? That I sample the buffet does not mean that I don’t also cherish and return to familiar recipes.

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  • Twipped@l.twipped.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I pay for Apple Music (well, technically I get it as part of Apple One) for one reason: the library matching function. I have half a gig of mp3s on my home computer, many of which are not on any streaming service, and apple makes them all available to every device I own.

    For me, thats worth the monthly price.

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    • Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Wait…that’s a peak feature, rare apple W

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    • Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can host it yourself without paying apple.

      You’d literally be paying yourself back after not much time at all.

      I like Plex amp but there are quite a few options.

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  • TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Me too. However I recognize that many people are content to listen to the same things they enjoyed in high school forever. In which case they definitely do not need streaming

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  • TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    this post is just to placate a group of people. i prefer streaming for new music friday. i also don’t want another crate or hard drive of shit i lost interest in.

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• oneser@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Man, Spotify were the ones who did it. Like they made the service so significantly better and more convenient than pirating that most of those pirating actually switched.

  Not a fan of the platform anymore since the heavy push for sponsored content, removal of audiobooks and the whole Joe Rogan thing, but still credit where it’s due.

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  • tempest@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The built a thing by burning investor money to artificially lower the price and sell out high on stock IPOs is still going strong I see.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And by massively underpaying the actual artists that create the content that fills the platform.

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• kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Okay, but I can access my full library from anywhere at full quality from multiple devices, I have several 5,000 plus song playlists with little to no overlap between a few of them and I have had CDs lost or stolen and had drive failures delete digital libraries. But sure.

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  • TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    5000 song playlist

    That sounds like digital hoarding. Why do you need a 2 week long playlist?

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    • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Shuffle

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t do it personally, but from what I understand, it’s really pretty easy to set up your own self-hosted music server to stream from.

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    • kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have jellyfin for movies/tv because there isn’t a more convenient option available. I am not going to VPN from my phone or anywhere to home to play music when Tidal is available.

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• dellhiver@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I did return to my old flac and mp3 collection. Got Foobar working again, found a nice skin and I’m rediscovering music that I that skipped over. I buy second-hand CDs when I find them. I’ve managed to get a digital copy of all my favourite albums and tracks.

  I will keep Spotify though. A long time ago, I got friends to share their Discovery and Release Radar playlists. With my own, I have a nice spread of recommendations.

  I need regular new music. Call it a search for unexpected dopamine. Spotify still picks new tracks that I really like. I also like Spotify Connect and the easily shared collaborative playlists.

  The UK has less alternatives for music discovery. I don’t like Radio, way too much talking and ads.

  I’ve got rid of Netflix, Prime. I’m getting Disney+ for free at the moment. Back to physical for film and TV.

  For now, Spotify recommendations is worth the cost of entry.

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• helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I only play songs once on Spotify, if you catch my drift.

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  • Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t even play it :3

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    • mapleseedfall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Atta boy

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• MourningDove@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I mean… you own or have nothing when your Wow sub ends also.

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  • NoFun4You@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Level 20 baby!

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• Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I washed my clown makeup off with a home server

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  • AtariDump@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yarrr.

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  • Kirca@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Recently done the same and could not believe how easy it was too set up an *arr stack. It’s like magic

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• hellfire103@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  *laughs in physical media*

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  • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    *cries in disc rot*

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    • hellfire103@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      *wonders what disc rot is*

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• ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is why I download all the music I want. I still listen to it primarily on youtube, but it is a ‘just in case’. I also never paid for music.

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  • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Artists love you, I’m sure.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I doubt they notice. Most artists either get income directly from fans at concerts, via merch, or through explicit patronage (Bandcamp, Patreon, etc).

      The money they get from streaming isn’t remotely enough to support a professional career. Streaming is more about promotion - to get you in the door at the next concert - than actual income.

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• lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I pay for the discovery features. Then I get my music locally.

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• Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Just the albums on my favorites list in Qobuz would have been around $10,000 USD to purchase in hi-res.

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• DarthAstrius@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Some of us aren’t privileged enough to buy hundreds of hours of music.

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• julianwgs@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I am very happy with Navidrome for over a year now. It also reminds me how I listened to whole albums when I was a teenager, what I now started doing again.

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• bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Really hard to get normies to see this. They’re sucked into how easy it is and soon they’ll be fed nothing but ai slop music so corps dont havr to pay artists a cent. Yay future?

  Ill hold onto my records and cds, thanks.

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• Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I usually have to listen to a song several times before it fully “clicks” if I like it or not, so music streaming subscription is great for being able to grab any song I think I might like and throw it in trial playlist. Back when I bought/acquired music, I would skip over most music I might like because the effort wasn’t worth it for a song I wasn’t sure if I liked or not. So streaming has worked really well for me for music discovery at least.

  On the bright side, I’m still getting my $8 a month early adopter price for Google music all access (now YouTube music).

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• kamen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Go to concerts, buy physical.

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• happydoors@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think the young generation has seen the pattern of clowns generations above them, either relying on ad-radio or Spotify, and have turned to piracy or physical media for this. My BIL recently got into buying CDs from goodwill? I lived through the consumer generation of physical hoarding so Spotifydl is fine for me.

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• Nikls94@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You can just rip it off Spotify.

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• Teppichbrand@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The internet is over, you guys. We can finally switch off our devices and take a good nap.

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• balderdash9@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  For some reason pirating music libraries is really hard. Probably bc everyone uses Spotify

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• ieGod@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why would I ever mess with physical media ever again? What a waste of space and effort. Streaming services give me a breadth and width of options unrivaled in history. And if I dislike the streaming price (way worth it in my opinion) then digital purchasing or even pirate methods are available.

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• EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They mock you for subscribing to an online service. I mock you for subscribing to WoW instead of FFXIV. We are not the same.

  (Insert FFXIV free trial meme here)

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• mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Dont worry guys my CD collection is increasing (i extract it onto hard drives too). I’ll open a free music museum when all goes to shit.

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• Luci@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yar what if I told yee have another option

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• PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s a really narrow case.

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• DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I would have if I knew you, because it’s qhat caused pr contributed to this. If those WoW subscriptions had have flopped - we’d be in a better situation now.

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