Game developers desperate for you to join their Discord "server"

Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone⁩ to ⁨mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world⁩

Because a big “Join our community discord server!” on the game’s title screen isn’t enough apparently. They have to put a flashy animated GIF at the top of every update notification, change the name of the game’s Steam forum to “Join Our Discord!”, and even reply to posts in the Steam forum saying “You should join our discord so we can chat about it!” as if a forum isn’t a good place to chat about the thing that’s already being discussed.

Bitch please, if I wanted to be in the hell that is Discord I’d already be there, you can stop asking.

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Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I fucking hate Discord and how it’s absorbed what should be forums.

When I’m creating a discussion online about a particular game or project, I’m looking to hear from the broader community over a longer term; not just limited to whomever happens to be online on this one specific platform at the time of posting.

People have different schedules, we’re not all online together at the same times; especially when you factor in timezones. Discord however makes it massively frustrating if not impossible to hold a discussion unless everyone you want to talk to is present and ready to read and reply now. Otherwise your conversation gets burried in the mess of other people having their own conversations and nobody wants to scroll through thousands of messages in the history of when they last logged on.

You can break out conversations into their own rooms, but that only goes so far and at that point you may as well just have a damn forum; that’s what they are for.

Then you get into the problem of repetition and searchability. People often run into common problems or ask the same questions; but with Discord, you’ve got to re-explain the same things every time they’re brought up, instead of just pointing the user to an old forum post that already solves their problem (they may have even found it themselves through a web search, saving them from even having to ask and waste people’s time. Discord isn’t indexed by search engines so old conversations/solutions are lost).

A group chat platform is not an acceptable replacement for a forum and I will die on that god damn hill.

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- dumples@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Discord is good for live chatting and messaging only. Unless you are actively playing a game it’s horrible. We use the voice and chat for DnD but even for 5 people we can’t find anything in the text channel
  
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- CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  and none of it is indeed by search engines. No one else will ever be able to Google their problem and find the answer. All the useful knowledge put into a box and buried. It’s just awful.
  
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  - brbposting@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Grosses me out
    
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- Chozo@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Discord literally has forums. Most official game servers that I've seen tend to make use of them.
  
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  - Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’ve not seen one of those in use in the half dozen servers I’d looked at; but I’ve barely used that shit show of a platform.
    
    Regardless, it’s not publicly accessible/indexable and I’m not willing to enter into their new binding arbitration agreement just to look around. (the new ToS)
    
    Discord can go fuck themselves.
    
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  - Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Not good ones. It’s not a good format for actual forums
    
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- El_Scapacabra@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  You just listed every reason why I have never liked Discord but couldn’t really begin to explain why. Thanks for putting into words so clearly!
  
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- lemon@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Does Discord have something similar to Slack threads? That’s more or less helps to group related discussion together. Still, even threads eventually get lost in the chat history.
  
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supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It is so infuriating espeically when any attempt to interact with the community around the game is met by the developer or community members saying “Ha! Silly you! The only place to socialize about this is Discord!”.

I have hated the fact that Discord was eating all the communities I love from the beginning, but this long into it what I find so frustrating is how game developers who rely on Discord for feedback and to get a sense of where their community is at pretend that the subset of people who use their Discord is representative of the people who buy and play their game and it just isn’t.

Battlebit is a great example of a multiplayer game that only listened to its most active members on Discord who wanted a rush style arcade high intensity flavor to the combat and facilitating those players lead to the entire rest of the game becoming unbalanced. When backlash started to happened, the devs again only listened to the smg rush style players who were constantly vocalizing in the Discord and making highlight clips from it and stuff so the solution was to further nerf sniper players because that was the class SMG rush style players hated the most.

The game is dead now and I can’t think of a clearer example of how Discord can be a major liability to a game community rather than a boon.

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- beetus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’m pretty sure the game died because the devs vanished
  
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  - supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I think that is how people active on the discord perceived it from their perspective, but it was not at all how I experienced it die as an initial huge fan of the game.
    
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EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Discord is not the right platform to use as a forum.

Quit trying to make it happen

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- SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  One day we are going to lose an unbelievable amount of information, but do you know what is simple to archive and bring back, a simple form from 2005.
  
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- douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  1000000%
  
  It is literally the worst forum platform in existence.
  
  However, It becomes difficult when you use Discord as a place for your community to chat and to talk with and get feedback from highly engaged players or community members who have things to say about your game and want to talk with each other about the game. You could say that any old form will do here. However, you go to where your community is, you don’t make your community come to you. That only works if you are a bombshell of a title, otherwise, your bounce rate for community members joining and talking and engaging is going to be incredibly high which reduces the chances of your game becoming successful.
  
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missingno@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I hate that Discord has taken over most communities and put them in a place unindexed by search engines. I hate it so much.

But this is where users all go in Current Year, and I don't blame game developers for following the crowd. Especially for smaller multiplayer games, if you want to sustain an active community you've gotta have that #matchmaking channel for players to organize.

Also, tbh, Steam Forums ain't great either. At least they're searchable, but that's all that can be said about them. In my experience they've often devolved into the most toxic hellholes due to Valve's lack of moderation. Also not ideal for anything multiplatform, that only covers Steam users.

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brax@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I hate discord with a passion. I wish we’d go back to message boards - properly indexed websites that you can search to find discussions on things you need.

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- Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Surely IRC would be what you want to replace discord? Or matrix.
  
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  - brax@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Going back to IRC would be fun.
    
    Discord is okay for chat, but a lot of communities seem to think that Discord is a perfectly cromulent support channel… I guess that’s cool if you like to answer the same question a bunch, and want it to be impossible for people to find their answers via Google.
    
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Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It’s so stupid they have discord channels but not a forum where actual discussion can happen. You can’t have a conversation in a live chat room that has hundreds to thousands of people. It’s just a constsnt scroll you can’t actually fuckin’ read!

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- HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  for like pen and paper role playing it can be nice when you have rooms for particular games but I agree for video games I rather have forums. I mean if its an mmo or such I can chat in game and if its not then I don’t see any point to chating.
  
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- Witchfire@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I mod a server with 13k people, it’s really not that bad when you have channels, threads, and forums.
  
  (Shout-out to DoMT for D&D)
  
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  - Soggy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    That’s just the Twitch brainrot. People that want forums back (including me) do not want to be in a room with 13k people. That’s not a community.
    
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betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Guess you’ll have to leak secret military documents the old-fashioned way: posting them on the War Thunder forums.

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- Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Hold up, are people really stupid enough to send classified documents over fucking Discord?
  
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  - betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yes.
    
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hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Discord is such a piece of trash tool. I have to use Slack for work, which is garbage also, but makes sense in such contrxts, but Discord? I don’t want to feel like using a worse at everything else Slack during my time off.

I get it, building community and such, but come on! Forums are such and easier and friendlier way to do this.

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- derpgon@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  To be honest, Slack is so much worse it’s not even comparable. I haven’t used it in the last year, but I was forced to used it because work and even though they added feature it became slightly worse every time.
  
  Sure, I am forced to use Teams, which is WAY worse than Slack was in the beginning. But Discord is at least fast. It is not a bad piece of software per-se, it is just misused because it is so easy to set up.
  
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  - hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    oh…yeah, forgot about Teams. My employer is using it also and it’s a mess.
    
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  - dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I always laugh at the mention of Teams, because it reminds me that at my work we use Teams but the IT department blocked the feature to create teams inside Teams. So instead of Slack is more like a corporate WhatsApp.
    
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xvertigox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I especially fucking hate when mods are distributed solely through discord. That’s so fucking stupid and a really quick way to ensure I never play what you made.

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Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I refuse to join any of these in protest, and when I can’t submit bug reports via public forums I will rate the negatively.

I am firmly against using closed chat platforms such as discord for informational and support.

Years down the road obscure issues with the game are going to be unavailable either due to the server being abandoned or inability to look for issues soley due to everything being on discord now. I refuse to take part in it.

I’m only in one discord that is based off a game, and that is satisfactory exclusively because I was in the alpha program so It seemed right that I joined the main discord after the alpha ended.

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- Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I haven’t seen many steam games that don’t use the steam forums… is there a particular example that isn’t using them?
  
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  - Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Many of them “use” them, as in have them enabled to allow for members of the community to use them, and sometimes they might offer patch note releases for updates via the announcement system or major issue posts, but most of them don’t actually provide support and assistance via them or even moderate them at times. Huge problem actors are inde studios but, even large producers have the issue. My latest one that I tried to post a bug report to is Phasmaphobia, which locks all support to their discord, but like most games don’t do official support via the forums.
    
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douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Eh, it’s entirely logical.

Let me explain:

The area that most indi developers underperform at is… Marketing. Many of them put their heart and soul into a game and then completely fail to gather a community or audience that is interested in such a game.

so what is one of the easiest ways that a developer who has effectively no social media skills can gather a community of interested individuals to talk about provide feedback and announce changes to?

most of the target audiences for most games are going to be on social media

You expect to chat with your community and so do your users that care

Discord is a well-established platform, with a large ecosystem and many integrations meant to target games

The developer chooses Discord as it is effectively the best option for their situation and available resources

This makes perfect sense. I don’t see why you should be outraged about something of this sort.

That said:

If you don’t want to join the Discord, you don’t have to.
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- bytesonbike@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I was like OP. I fucking hate discord.
  
  But then, this little indie game in early access had a bug, but I couldnt find where to email them. So reluctantly, I joined shitty ass discord, sent the dev a screenshot, and within like 15 minutes, the dev was able to figure out the fix.
  
  I stuck around and saw more threads. Updates, future fixes, other people doing speed runs, even a place people were making fan art.
  
  And that’s when he realized Discord isnt so shitty, because that solo dev now has all this conversation and people motivating them.
  
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  - Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    But then discord sold all his data to GenAI
    
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  - FiskFisk33@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    wouldn’t it be 100x better if the same thing was accessible on the public web and searchable?
    
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  - douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yep, it’s a practical choice that improves the quality of their work and their community engagement by promoting rapid feedback cycles.
    
    BTW how’d you stumble upon the Indi game?
    
    The thing that I suck at the most is advertised out what I’m making, and it’s hurt me, a lot…
    
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yaroto98@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Sounds like corporate logic to me. “Successful games have lots of positive community engagement!” Therefore… if we push ‘community engagement’ our game will be successful! Let’s track this metric to see how well this game is doing compared to our 497 other games and whether or not to invest in bug fixes and DLCs.

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- k_rol@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Damn you seem competent, do you have an MBA?
  
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  - yaroto98@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Nope, just your run of the mill cynic.
    
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Strider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
A lot of gamers actively chose this.

When the teamspeak debacle happened due to the license change a lot of players left out spite and instead of choosing the logical route to independence (like foss alternatives) many went directly to the then rising discord to suffer differently in another golden cage.

I will never understand (I chose mumble/murmur).

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- Krudler@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’m not here to stan for Discord, it’s pretty crappy. But at the time, it was the killer support app for gaming.
  
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  - dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It wasn’t. It just copied slack when it was becoming popular in the work world with a marketing blitz. It coincided with team speak sudden death. Slack did most of the marketing and discord bandwagoned on it as the fun slack for video games. Which in essence was just “what if IRC but with voice chat rooms.”
    
    Video game support wasn’t part of Discord intent until people started using it for it. Then they hacked the UX nightmare that is their solution for something the app was never meant to do.
    
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- corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  This don’t about people choosing one bad voice chatter over another. This is people who can’t bother to use the best tool for the job.
  
  (And web fora aren’t it)
  
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chunes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The trend of defacing games with social media icons is one of the most annoying development of the past 15 years or so.

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Kissaki@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
And then, “@everyone next update coming soon” or whatnot

Thanks for the notification 🫠

(The first thing I do on every Discord server I join is mute it. I want to be very selective about notifications.)

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Kissaki@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
When a developer replied to my Steam review with

Feel free to help out in the community with suggestions to improve the game! I’ve updated the game to include a in game discord link!

🤨 Yeah, not interested in joining your Discord to give feedback on your game when that could be done in Steam Discussions too. Or, you know, start with taking my review as genuine feedback.

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Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I know this is very unpopular, but something like Discord is very much preferable for real-time conversations than a forum. The interactions with developers and players is a lot more natural, and having a voice chat is always nice.

Discord can also have separate chat rooms about specific issues that can be tagged and searched.

So the functionality of discord is second to none. The only real issue with discord is enshitification. It is very enshitified, and the only way to mostly circumvent that is to have a custom discord client.

If only Matrix was as fully-functional and easy to install and use with just a click.

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- charles@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  In my opinion, the biggest issue with pushing communities to Discord is that it traps the information within that platform and their search leaves a lot to be desired.
  
  Discord is a good platform to build a community around a topic, however, more often than not, a lot of solutions to common problems become lost or hard to find for new players/users.
  
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  - A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    discord is a communication platform for friends to game on. nothing more, nothing less.
    
    It should not be an information archive.
    
    It should not be a source of tech support.
    
    It shouldnt be a source of important news/announcements.
    
    All that shit should be on your fucking website, where it can be indexed, archived, and searched for.
    
    Cause discord isolates information in such a way that you will never be able to find out unless you actively use discord, actively hunt down the right discord channel, and properly luck into finding the information.
    
    verses just going to a web browser and typing " [game name] [bug description]" and likely getting the solution, or at least relevant information, in the first 3 returns.
    
    Discord holds information hostage, and kills it should a channel shut down/delete, losing it forever… and anyone that has played older games know that some of that information and community fixing is essential, even a decade+ later.
    
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  - Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It’s only trapped on Discord if one refuses to ever join Discord. Most people playing games use Discord, so that’s not a real issue for them.
    
    Making things searchable, such as problems and solutions, is dependent on how well managed a community is; over the years I’ve had plenty of issues trying to find something on a forum simply because something like keywords, and tagging didn’t exist or wasn’t enforced, or bug reports were regelated to a single forum thread.
    
    The same it is with Discord. If you’re smart you’ll create a “forum” channel for bug and issue reports and force users to use tags as a rule.
    
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- NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  But it’s all hidden. It’s not searchable or discoverable. I have zero desire to join or be part of discord. It’s like a hidden part of the internet.
  
  If you want to talk about your game put it out in public. You can have a web page a forum and a chat without that stupid shit that is discord.
  
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  - douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    See a Discord for people to talk about. The game is an entirely different use case than what you’re talking about here.
    
    You’re talking about a place for suggestions and help which can be driven to something like discourse. Which is a platform specifically made for q&A. But it is not well suited for the type of interaction you would expect in a Discord server. It’s not providing the controls and integration that Discord provides, nor is it providing voice chat capabilities and cross interaction.
    
    Discord as much as we all hate it. For the enshitification. is a well-established high population low friction platform for community engagement.
    
    And one of the number one rules when it comes to community engagement is that you go to where your community has the least amount of friction. They don’t come to you.
    
    If that was a community that preferentially used IRC then the developer should preferentially use IRC. Unfortunately, Target gaming audiences preferentially use Discord and are already familiar with the platform. Anything else is adding friction that reduces community growth.
    
    These are the facts of the matter. I’m not saying these in support of Discord. It’s kind of a shitty situation
    
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- ieGod@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’m with you. I actually like discord.
  
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  - A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    enjoy it. its a great platform to communicate with your friends in game on.
    
    but its not a place for tech support, breaking announcements, etc etc etc
    
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- cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  The interactions with developers and players
  
  I don’t want to have interactions with developers, nor other players. Cramming “social media” above the game advertisement itself is… something.
  
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  - Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    That’s a you problem. Most gamers and developers do want those things and every thriving game I can think of has a very active Discord community.
    
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pewpew@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
If I’m not interested that means I’m probably not going to bring anything interesting for the discussion

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- FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  If I’m not interested that means I’m probably not going to bring anything interesting for the discussion
  
  Ever tried to have a discussion on discord? It’s the most infuriating thing I have ever encountered.
  
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  - entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    What issues did you have with it? Too busy? Overeager mods? Bad organization?
    
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kartoffelsaft@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I posted a negative review of kithack model club over this exact issue and got 50/50 clown to other awards on it. When I also talked a bit about it on the steam forums, I noticed there’s a guy who clearly isn’t working for the dev and goes to every post to tell them to go to the discord. I’d be fine with that if he didn’t also argue with anyone who doesn’t think that’s good. Some people man.

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AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The only time I would even stop for a second to consider that maybe it’s a good thing for devs to be like “Join Our Discord!” would be for things like pokemon fan games or something like Plants VS Zombies Universe, where Sintendo or EA could come in and drop nukes on these innocent enough seeming ( most of the time ) devs.

I obviously don’t want the corpo clown creeps coming in and destroying under development fan games ( especially PVZ Universe or Pokemon Empire ), but surely we must have better platforms to hide projects on, right? I mean, come on, we’re living in the year 2026, not 2006.

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recklessengagement@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It kills me every time I see a support or community forum fall to Discord.

Fuck, even PROFESSIONAL APPS have started doing this shit (example Parsec).

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prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Because a big “Join our community discord server!” on the game’s title screen isn’t enough apparently.

Man I hate this shit. So tacky

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CovfefeKills@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Yea I was steam banned by the stormworks developer because of what I said in discord. Don’t diss trump over there.

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Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Two questions:

Which game?

What would they win with having players on the Discord server?

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- Sylra@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  A lot of small indie or fan games love to hide on Discord. Got banned? Appeal it on Discord. Wanna submit feedback? Come on over to Discord!
  
  What do they gain from this? Besides making their content impossible to find in search engines, clearly they’re optimizing for maximum inconvenience and peak exclusivity. Nothing says “accessible community” like forcing players to re-ask the same questions in a walled-off chat nobody can Google.
  
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- XM34@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Because having your entire community on one platform is just a hell of a lot more convenient and manageable especially for smaller development studios. And Discord offers way better tools for moderation and real time discussions than any other tool I know.
  
  Sure, the searchability via search engines is pretty much none existent. But then again, you don’t really need that if all information regarding your game can be found via the Discord search.
  
  Additionally, players from all platforms can contribute and ask questions on Discord. The same is not true for e.g. the Steam User Forum.
  
  There’s a lot of problems with Discord and I feel like it’s only gonna get worse now that they’re public. But being blatantly oblivious to the obvious reasons why developers are choosing Discord over its alternatives.
  
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- vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Upselling
  
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victorz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

the hell that is Discord

Out of curiosity, what makes you say Discord is hell?

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- ooterness@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Didn’t Discord just leak a few million “age-verification photos” that they sorta promised to delete, but didn’t?
  
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  - Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    there was no sorta promised to delete, they stated in the press release, the actual age verification page and the FAQ page about age verification that the files were temporary… then apparently just didn’t, as I highly doubt 1.5tb of photos are “recent” photos.
    
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  - victorz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Oh yeah, that was pretty bad…
    
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- Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Where do you want me to start? The shady company that runs it? The godawful webapp and even worse electron “native” apps? All the privacy problems? The lack of any kind of guarantee that what you build there will still be there tomorrow? That’s all I can think of right now, but there’s probably more in the back of my mind somewhere.
  
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  - victorz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Start where you’d like, give me all you’ve got. 😄
    
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Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I don't like them for the reason that it is easy to be lost in the folds when you join one. I can't be in any discord server larger than 200 people and that's pushing it.

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