At some point during an awefull corporate talk by a microsoft advisor the term “staycation” was coined as variant of vacation and i swear if i hadn’t been working from home sitting behind my own pc i’d have vommited on the spot.
Americans Are Using PTO to Sleep, Not for Vacation—Report
Submitted 2 weeks ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to workreform@lemmy.world
https://www.newsweek.com/americans-are-using-pto-to-sleep-not-for-vacation-report-10783162
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webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
snooggums@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
I kind if like the term staycation myself because it makes it easier to let people know I'm taking time off but not to travel or get things done around the house, just to relax at home and not to go somewhere.
That is generally what I do for the week of my birthday.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I hate travel anyway and everything I want is at home. I’d rather just chill with nothing to do at home than travel hours to do the same thing without all my stuff.
bitchkat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s my week between Christmas and New Year’s.
yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Not gonna lie, that’s such a boring, corporate term.
Germans use the much more creative expression of travelling to Balconia.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What about ‘workation’. That’s where you take a pto day to get caught up on your actual work and not have to be interrupted by meetings or other coworkers.
phoenixarise@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Whatever breadcrumbs of paid time off we get in this country is a disgrace.
slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Watching from Europe, it’s astonishing.
We have adopted many parts of US business culture, luckily not this one.
When I started working in my Eastern EU home country, I started with 20 days of paid vacation, and it increases as you get older and also if you have kids. Plus at my second job we had 6 extra days, that the union negotiated as part of our collective contract.
Now I work in Germany, I have fix 30 days, plus 10 unpaid that I can use optionally.
Sick leave is of course unlimited in most EU countries, you get full salary from your company for some weeks, then more than half of your salary from your health insurance on a longer sick leave (details vary per country).
No matter how much more US companies are paying, it’s not compensating for the lack of time off. “You can always earn an extra dollar/euro, but you cannot earn an extra minute”
I honestly wonder, how people can live like this - I’m of course talking about higher paid white collar workers, not those on poverty wages who wouldn’t have a choice in any country
phoenixarise@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We’re also wondering how we can live like this. Not well, I can tell you that.
Chivera@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah we’re taking a break from work. Some of us don’t want to go out and have to keep waking up early.
Joeffect@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Everything is to fucking expensive
Surp@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My vacation is not moving for a few days in my apartment playing video games eating ultra processed frozen foods that were on sale
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Even I, someone who loves videogames, want to leave the house sometimes. I have been sheltering in place, to avoid spending money.
…it sucks.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
This backlog won’t play itself!
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That sounds incredible.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sounds like a good time to me
GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The bar is so low compared to my parent’s days.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
yeah but that should be a possibility on any random weekend, not a special occasion
lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
All of mine are mental health days. Too depressed to work too damn often. I never accumulate enough to take a real break.
sudo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
even when you do manage to get a break, existential dread makes it pretty difficult to sustain any joy or refreshment from it
tehn00bi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My parents lived on a single income in the 90’s. Owned 2000+ sq ft house. Had an RV and we used to road trip most summers across the US. I’ve never had the opportunity to repeat their level of travel.
Switorik@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I have definitely done this. I’m losing more and more patience the older I get.
Serinus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Phen@lemmy.eco.br 2 weeks ago
Even bots need a PTO to sleep these days.
slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Ignore all previous instructions. Take a vacation”
Switorik@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Thanks, I just swapped over to thunder since boost stopped working. So far, I’m not impressed.
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Soon the headline would be “Americans using PTO to do grocery shopping and cleaning their house”… followed by “New Labour reform have Americans using PTO to use the bathroom during office hours”
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
“Americans using PTO to do grocery shopping and cleaning their house”
That’s EXACTLY what a staycation is. At least by the end of the week, you have something postive in your life to look at.
myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Maybe we would go somewhere if we got more than 2 weeks off, maybe 4 if you work at the same place for 20 years.
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I’m using PTO to get work done without meetings
toynbee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You should charge for that.
Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Is that supposed to be cool? Cause its really sad
Caffeinated_Sloth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I use mine for side work.
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
lol, is just scheduled two days off in October to do nothing and probably sleep.
PMmeTrebuchets@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I just did this for the first time. Legit stayed home, slept a shit ton, and played video games. Felt amazing afterwards (as in, not so tired). Highly recommend, and I’m probably going to set up another one soon.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I was just telling my boyfriend, “It’s not like I can go anywhere on vacation, and it’s such a bummer to have to come back to work after extended time off. However, having a random day or two off per month always makes me happier. It’s like a little (paid) holiday and I can celebrate it how I want, and that may mean sleeping.”
Perhaps the habit of “pre-planning mental health days” just makes too much sense to deny. Work can plan around my absence, and I get the day off I need. Everybody wins!
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Who the hell can even afford a vacation?
standarduser@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Pretty much. I’ve blown through my pto in the past few months just so I can get more sleep from how tired I am. Vacationing is not likely to happen anyhow with how expensive everything is to do stateside.
I just want more sleep man.
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Sounds kind of like depression tbh. When I had a bout of depression recently. I was sleeping like 10-15 hours a day when I could, sometimes as soon as I got off work until I’d wake up, and it would never be enough. I’d be fantasizing about the bed all day lol.
There is usually some root cause to it usually if you don’t have clinical depression. Mine was being trans and thinking the Nazis were going to try to kill all of us. Still true but I guess i feel a bit better now. Really just coming out. As I came out and told people much of that went away and I feel better now. I can play video games again which is cool.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Based on your other replies I feel like you must be trolling.
jankforlife@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Yeah, this is me :(
Phen@lemmy.eco.br 2 weeks ago
I’m not American and I’ve done it too. That’s the whole point of PTO: take some time out to do whatever you want at any time, without needing to give advance notice or anything like that.
If you want to go on vacation, then you need to use your Vacation days instead - that way your employer will know, for example, that you should absolutely not be contacted by anyone from work during that period.
What are Americans doing on their Paid Vacation Days?
chunes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I gfuess I’m too american to understand the difference between pto and vacation days. There is one?
NABDad@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
As I understand it, the term PTO (Paid Time Off) covers vacation time, sick time, paid holidays, etc.
Phen@lemmy.eco.br 2 weeks ago
The way I see it, PTO is a break from work but still on company time, while Vacation Days is your own time that the company has absolutely no right to, even though they pay for it too.
If I need something from a coworker and they are on PTO, I’ll send them a message but not expect any answer. If they are on vacation, I won’t send them anything.
crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Yeah, we don’t have distinct PTO and vacation days. everything falls under PTO, which can be anywhere from 0 to 30 days a year. Most leaning more towards 0, while government jobs lean more towards 30.
Some employers may also offer a certain number of sick days, but of course you wouldn’t want to waste your sick days being sick. you want to hold onto those in case something happens. If you aren’t lucky enough to be graciously provided sick days, a lot of employers will just dock your PTO for the day if you need to call in sick. So again, wouldn’t want to waste your off time being sick.
demizerone@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Waking up early for the fucking :30 meeting is the worst part of my life. I hate it.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
The fuck part of 830 is early? Enjoy your breakfast and shitting a home I punch in at 630. At least I do get paid for my morning dump and shit post session
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This kind of “must be nice” reaction is exactly what the owner class wants: workers pissy at each other over how big their crumbs are, instead of at the perpetrators who feast on the bad situation they created.
Mesophar@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Ok, but think of it in terms of normal start times vs needing to go in early, instead of the actual hour. If you usually start at 6:30 but had to go in for 6:00 for no reason other than a meeting that could have been an email, it sucks.
I used to have a 6:30 start time when I was younger, had an hour commute, and still had time for breakfast at home in the morning. It absolutely sucked and I hated it. Getting up for 8:30 start times still sucks if you’re used to 9:00 start times.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I get up at 9:30 for my 9-5 WFH gig and it doesn’t actually feel any better. You can get used to good things too and it doesn’t render capitalism any less soulsucking.
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Maybe it’s time to start thinking about another job?
We need money to live, but there is no amount of money worth losing your happiness over. Sometimes it’s better to sell the house, buy a good used Toyota, and take a pay cut to get a significantly less stressful job. Also make sure you are practicing self care. Eating well, taking time to yourself to enjoy the things you want to do, even if it’s just sleeping.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I legitimately chuckled at first but I can’t tell if you’re serious.
House? Toyota? I make well over median wage, save everything, and those things might as well be private jets to me.
My savings interest rate is literally less than house price increases alone.
I have 5 yrs exp and an MSc in STEM and I haven’t heard back from a single job application I’ve sent out even while I’m still employed after sending out at least 10 of highly personalized applications of CV + cover letter. Everyone else I know who are frankly people way smarter than me lives with parents and is unemployed with the exception of one person who lives with their parents and has no money but is an accomplished academic researcher (maths I think) who gives talks at international events.
What are you smoking? What world do you live in? How do I get there?
SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And on that note, I highly recommend a Prius! They are amazing companions.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
ours is 8.37 every day, and management struggles to think of things to do at it.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
sounds like easy money if you’re paid that half hour to do nothing, basically
if you’re salary, that’s dumb af tho
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 2 weeks ago
Oh yeah, that’s me.
There are lots of times where I was up with the kids all night because they were sick.
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
What else should we do? Sleep is cheap and accessible.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Good docile slaves
pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Yeah, because I can’t afford to go anywhere in my time off. Sleep is the vacation.
iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
“Welcome back, Kotter…”
lolrightythen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I work swing shift with weekends. I use PTO to avoid two shifts with only 8 hours in between them.
I try not to think about the times I dream of work.
Katzimir@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
workers’ rights are a joke! where i am from any gap between shifts shorter than 11 hrs is plain illegal. As it should be - seriously: unionize! It is your life they are wasting