Number of unvaxxed kids also growing in the past 22 years. I think it proves that autism is caused by lack of vaccine.
Who the fuck needs an x axis anyway
Submitted 2 weeks ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Twipped@l.twipped.social 2 weeks ago
ameancow@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If they could read or do comparisonal analysis or could formulate higher-functional abstraction in their frontal lobes, this would really make them think.
SuiXi3D@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
Now show the testing rate over the same time period!
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Anti-vaxxers: No.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Autism diagnosis rates. Quite a difference.
Uruanna@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Remember Covid, don’t report on things = they stop existing.
skozzii@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Well get out of here with your logic and reason…
guy@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
In my country there has been a huge increase in both ADHD and autism diagnoses the last decades. At the same time in those years the methods to discover both diagnoses have improved greatly.
But you know, correlation does not equal causation..manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Mandating helmets for the boys at the front is resulting in many more head injuries!
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Yeah, this is like saying “skin cancer rates have increased dramatically in the past 30 years!” Well yeah, because now we have the technology to detect it earlier. That “things increased” stat ignores the complementary “but deaths decreased dramatically” stat that immediately follows it. Before, we didn’t know people had skin cancer until it was killing them. But now, with preventative screenings, public awareness campaigns, etc, people are more likely to get checked before it is a life threatening issue.
It’s the same thing. Detection models got better, so detection rates went up.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 2 weeks ago
Not autism rates, detection rates is what’s up, more kids are growing up with adequate helps and therapies so they can grow to be functional adults.
hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
It is the same story as gay infecting children’s minds.
They are selling awareness as something to be afraid of. Which is yet another layer od evil.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 2 weeks ago
Not only that, but they wish really hard for us to be their tiny little scapegoats, when probably most of the autistic community hates them.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Too add to that there are more types of autism. It’s a spectrum.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 2 weeks ago
Yes, trains autism, boats autism, Math autism… /j
No but for real, no two autistic individuals are ever the same.
JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Adequate helps and terapies - repression and psychological abuse. Great. We are functional adults. Fuck you.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 2 weeks ago
Uuuhhhhhh, I’m an autistic adult who can somehow function because I had heaps of help growing up, many of my friends weren’t that lucky and have a hard time just existing.
gedaliyah@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Before you get more downvotes, it’s a reference folks: …wikipedia.org/…/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistic…
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
In hypernormalization, making SURE you know they ARE LYING and that IT DOESN’T MATTER is essential.
Because the goal is to make you believe you can’t do anything, so that you give up and demobilize that is their goal.rowanthorpe@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Very well said. I will make a concerted effort to inject “hypernormalization” into my speech more often going forward. For decades I’ve been saying to friends that the reductionist obsession with “normal” (whatever the hell that means) is a cancer to modern society.
In particular it already sounds creepy when you replace usage with its verb-form, e.g. changing “all my friends are normal” to “all my friends have been normalized”. It’s common practise to use a re-encoder to normalize a “background” playlist of songs to the same dB threshold so no single song sticks out and distracts us from what we are trying to focus on while listening. Similarly, authorities of an authoritarian ilk try to normalize populations so none of them stick out and distract from the primary focus (centralization of power and money). Hypernormalization involves taking that to its logical conclusion, telling the vast majority of people “stay in your lane” - meaning “shut up and consume, and when we tell you what to buy you buy it”, AKA be “normal(ized)”).
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
you know, everest was still there before it was discovered.
Chakravanti@monero.town 2 weeks ago
Everest wasn’t murdered before it was 5 years old.
devolution@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Assuming the data is true (doubt it because of fucking beef jerky man), it’s not so much that autism is on the rise so much that autism rates are being diagnosed more and autism is less stigmatized than it was previously.
TheOgreChef@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If I remember correctly, it fits the same overall curve of the number of reported left handed people over time after society stopped forcibly making people use their right hand. Shockingly, actually making an attempt at diagnosing people and tracking those diagnoses makes numbers go up.
Aneb@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Imagine the sexist fascist racist homophobe convicted Cheeto puff is also ablest, please keep adding adjectives that describe the 47th president of the Confederated States
militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
- Autism is a spectrum., same as gender ideology. Whether you like it or not, it’s true.
- We’re better at diagnosis
- Preconceived notions about such things aren’t as prevalent, until recently for political reasons
Monzcarro@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I’m a woman in my 40s who is probably autistic, but back then I was the wrong demographic and “too well behaved” to even consider diagnosis. I’m a typical example people think of when thinking about under diagnosis.
On the other hand, I work with people who have severe learning disabilities who also evaded diagnosis, or were diagnosed well into adulthood as diagnosis is difficult in someone so impaired. In another time, they would have been labelled with a grossly offensive term and just left. Better treatment of disabled people is probably another reason we see rising rates of diagnosis.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They’re basically banking on people still thinking, autism is “intellectual disability, but quirkier and more difficult”, while I have met “more severe” cases who did not had the ID part, they just were lucky to avoid the diagnosis for long, and thus people didn’t pretend they’re “too dumb to even learn to count to 10”.
ameancow@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
spectrum
Our species broadly doesn’t think in terms of spectrums or nuance.
I burned years of my life trying to make arguments from reason and explain how there can be simultaneous truths or that issues are not black-and-white.
But people’s minds largely do not work that way. We all HAVE to digest this and mourn it and let it pass through us so we can stop trying to argue with these blockheads in ways they can’t even grasp. We can change them if we tell them stories about feelings, if we make them feel validated or heard, we can change them with careful, patient one-on-one care like a parent telling a child bedtime stories… but this takes a level of energy, empathy and patience that few of us have. Some do, I give massive respect to those who have dedicated their lives to this kind of outreach. I wish we had more.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is precisely what ‘leader scientists’ did when folks in power plopped them before crowds and radio and TV and such for a long time.
…It kinda worked.
But we’re in the algorithmic attention era now. We are past that era.
Sergio@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
This graph will live forever, in intro classes, as an example of how not to do things.
jacksilver@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Im confused, it’s got both axis labeled and seems pretty easy to read.
Maybe points off for having the labels on the outside rim of the graphic.
Doesn’t change the fact that classification of autism also changed over those years, but the graph itself is okay.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
What? The line of best fit doesn’t even touch the data.
ThermonuclearCactus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
In other news, visibility bias has been classified as communist propaganda. Anyone who says this isn’t representative of an actual increase in the incidence rate is a communist and can safely be ignored.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Will this administration release data on diseases caused by fossil emissions? Like asthma?
Mordred_85@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Also heath waves death tolls
beefpig@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh, they will. But reliable data?
Be careful what you wish for, lol.
Evotech@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
danc4498@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Can somebody smarter than me tell me what this is trying to say? There’s a bar for surveillance year and birth year. But, for instance, 2012 is on the graph twice with different values. What does it mean?
bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
2012 appears once as a birth year and once as a surveillance year. The graph says that they only ever surveyed 8-year-olds, since the birth year is always 8 less than the surveillance year.
Joeffect@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
But they have 12 bars and 7 labels… it makes no sense
fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
It’s no longer number go up good season.
Eq0@literature.cafe 2 weeks ago
Bad graph, they couldn’t decide if the X axis was the birth year of the kids or the year of the test but they give the same information since it’s always 8-year-old kids being tested. Anyways, they wrote the year of the test first and second the year of birth.
VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
They were told to make a graph that increases and that’s what they did.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
There is an 𝑥 axis and it’s not too hard to comprehend, although I’d prefer the dividing character to be newline rather than “|”, or only show the latter date.
Triumph@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
The years are either out of order or overlapping.
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
No, it’s “surveillance year | birth year” and only every other value is listed. It would be nicer with a numerical value but it’s fine.
onslaught545@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
But they aren’t from what I can see. They’re surveillance/birth year pairs in ascending order.
thejml@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I honestly don’t know why they even list the birth year. It explicitly states “8 Year Olds”, we can do the math.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
That line of best fit doesn’t even match the data. How can it start above the data and then finish above the data but still be line of best fit. Not that that’s the only problem with this graph of course.
bhamlin@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sorry, it’s actually a “best fits our narrative” line. I can see how you might have been confused.
CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
I think it’s just a trendline, not a line of best fit.
Professorozone@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Well the cure is clearly to stop testing.
Agent641@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Instances of autism have skyrocketed since the discovery of autism and effective testing for it.
Clearly these tests are causing the autism. It’s a conspiracy by Big Autist to make the world a quieter and more curious place. The railway companies are in on it too.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I think you just predicted the next South Park plot.
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Autism tests cause autism, got it, let’s roll boys, we have more science to ban
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
prevalence of cancer has increased ∞% since 0 BC
PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
When people say autism they think of the nonverbal kind not the model train kind.
Plum@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
… did they adjust the data points to go from lowest to highest
…so the chart go up?
…
gedaliyah@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Also remember that we only had diagnostic tools for adult autism beginning in the 1980s.
The rise of autism diagnosis does not necessarily equal a rise in autism.
ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
10 out of a 1000 to 30ish out of a 1000 doesn’t even seem like a massive increase, especially if it’s really due to something like a pain medication that is taken by a huge population. Which it’s not as it’s more related to improvements in diagnosing.
I guess they are just hoping people see bar go up and therefore bad.
Caffeinated_Sloth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Military spending also increased from 2000-2022, ergo military spending causes autism.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I remember when my mum was filling out a form as part of the autism assessment, she was like “sounds a lot like my husband as well… And his dad”
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I think the x axis is “year of measurement | year of birth” since they are 8 years apart. Very unconventional and it would need an explanation but it’s not bad to have both pieces of information handy in this context
Pandantic@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
It looks nepotism put a failson in charge of this graph.
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
That’s like saying we have more cancer now than in the past.
Sure, that might be true in certain scenarios (we’re very good at creating new ways to give ourselves cancer).
The truth is that we’re living longer, increasing the risk and likelihood of cancer, and we’ve gotten a LOT better at finding and diagnosing cancer and specific types.
kazerniel@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The axis makes sense with the label, they just didn’t label every data point.
amotio@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The source is “I made it the fuck up!”
Also ignoring improvements in diagnostics.
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I mean, it says the source right there, it’s the CDC…
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The organization run by a brain worm driving a human suit?
Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, after deleting any data the CDC used to have that they didn’t agree with. And making up any new data they need to make their preconceived notion as perceivably supported as possible.
FerretyFever0@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
Yes, which happened to be the body that made it the fuck up.