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Who the fuck needs an x axis anyway
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reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
Most magats are autists but not all autists are magats?
reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
It’s hard to speculate, but the cdc should take a look at this strong correlation!!
BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah Autism rates are going up in all groups because people are getting diagnoses. This is partly about better awareness but also partly about money - there is an incentive to expand the diagnosis, diagnose more people and treat more people, which somewhat muddies the water. Autistic Spectrum Disorder first appeared in the American DSM in 2012, unifying 5 existing conditions into one, and then it moved into the international ICD in 2018 (going live in 2022). It is no wonder awareness has gone up, and infrastructure for diagnosis has rolled out.
We’re not seeing an increase in Autism, we’re seeing an increase in the diagnosis of autism. This graph just shows how stupid and dumbed down the CDC and the White House is under this cretinous president.
Windex007@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s probably more than just better diagnosis.
“Advanced Parental Age” has a significant body of work behind it, and people are having kids quite a bit older than they used to, because… you know… gestures broadly at how fucked up the world is
shalafi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My daughter’s autistic and we were 39 (wife) and 42 (me) when we had her. OTOH, we were two years older and my son isn’t autistic.
Serinus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
we’re seeing an increase in the diagnosis of autism.
Absolutely.
We’re not seeing an increase in Autism
Not sure about that. It can be both.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Sure, it’s possible, but I’m not sure there’s data to support the idea of increasing rates of autism. The increase in diagnosis rates is way too strong of a confounder
Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Absolute nonsense graph. Buckle up, this shit is going to get way worse.
axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Can anyone decipher the graph for me?
BrrdShrrmp@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
When they collected the data in 2000, about seven 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 1992.
When they collected the data in 2002, about six 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 1994. This information was not labelled on the x axis.
When they collected the data in 2004, about eight 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 1996.
When they collected the data in 2006, about six 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 1998. This information was not labelled on the x axis.
When they collected the data in 2008, about eleven 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 2000.
… I’m too lazy to continue but …
When they collected the data in 2020, about twenty seven 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 2012.
When they collected the data in 2022, about thirty two 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 2014. This information was not labelled on the x axis.
I’m not positive i’m reading it right, but that’s what I think they were trying to convey with this (terribly labeled) graph.
GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Any clue why there are 2 bars per year grouping?
I thought it was maybe number of cases in each year, but 2000 at the beginning of the graph and when 2000 appears later don’t match.
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
The line went up which usually good. The very best. We have the best lines in this great country. But Bobby said this isn’t a good line so I said, I told them, we need to find out why the line is bad. And I’ve got people on it who say don’t take Tylenol. So that’s all that needs to be said. Don’t. Take. Tylenol.
Midnitte@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
r/DataIsBlursed
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Guarantee you the people afraid of autism has no idea what it even is, other than “bad”
ameancow@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There’s a vast number of conservative parents who have said they would support abortion in cases of fetal abnormalities like “autism” because they’re not pro-life or informed about anything, they’re just scared. They’re scared of hardships, they’re scared of emotional labor, they’re scared of the social stigmas around having to care for someone with special needs, they’re scared they won’t love a child who isn’t normal, and will be judged for it.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
It’s not possible to diagnose an autism until the age of about four or five at the earliest so I’m not sure how they’re planning to do that
xia@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
For some reason, that doesn’t look like a GPT-generated graph, which means… sadly… that someone had to make that thing… and somebody had to approve it.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
What do you bet it’s not even based on real data and it’s just some random rectangles that they drew.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They also could have just grabbed any graph off of google images and relabeled it. That was a apparently a popular shortcut in corporations when someone had to present to their bosses.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Didn’t we used to hide it?
Adalast@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes. This is an artifact of a destigmatization coupled with better diagnostics for evaluating ASD. More people aren’t autistic, more people are being diagnosed and receiving counseling for coping with the neurldivergence in a cold and uncaring neurotypical world.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s the era they want to drag us back into, even if it costs us suicide and/or substance abuse.
runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I believe the data through 2016, but the last 3 bars are faked. The increase per bin is 5 higher than the previous.
jcarax@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
It might be because DSM-V was released in 2013.
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Diagnosis has improved and perhaps been used too soon in some cases. Its always been here but environmental changes of some kind have increased it slightly. Most likely medical culprit is NSAIDs. Not trumps scapegoat of the moment. The other brand was however shown to cause people to lose empathy with sustained use in some studies.
MissJinx@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
maybe that’s why they were elected lol
/s
Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Dude…
thejml@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
“8 year olds, dude.” - Walter Sobchak
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You said it, maing.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Just as the mocroplastics are getting into everything!
A nice dose of synthetic hormones!
notarobot@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
OK there are not 2 bars per year. 2nd last is 2020, last 2022.
It’s not clear why everyone is mad at the chart. It does show an increase. Though, this is about autism diagnoseses, which can be influenced by kickback bribes for diagnoseses.
There is a sharper (exponential) increase since 2012, even though pharma corruption solutions existed many years before then, afaik. Some explanation for the acceleration is needed. Its not tylenol or any new vaccines.
davidagain@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Er, did you look at all the dates on the x axis? Because that shit makes no sense whatsoever.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
It took me a while to understand the graph too. All of the information needed is included in OP image. Posting what may be Trump/RFK propaganda that may or not be based on lies and non data, just to attack it for not being the absolute clearest graph is posting Trump propaganda. Graph would be clearer if they omitted birth years. OK.
Posting this is still equivalent to “sun goes up sun goes down. ain’t nobody understand that” manipulation that reinforces people’s lack of understanding to trust the speaker on anything and everything.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Autism diagnosis is can also be increased by just better recognition of the disease. You think anyone was going around giving out autism diagnosis in the 90s come on.
An increase in diagnosis rates does not indicate an underlying increase in the condition.
pyr0ball@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
My diagnosis is in that spike. I got diagnosed late because it took that long to get away from my autism denying parent and enough time living on my own to start wondering about my “weird habits”, especially after starting to meet others “like me”.
It stopped being a disability in my mind and started being more like a superpower, and eventually out was just who I was and y’all can just deal with it. Of course I leaned boundaries and social graces because we live in a society, but how I view myself and other people definitely changed
So I think it has a lot to do with how this generation and previous ones changed how they handle autism.
davidagain@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Er, did you look at all the dates on the x axis? Because that shit makes no sense whatsoever.
Kaliax@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Population size has also experienced dramatic growth… ffs.
Lemmee@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Not trying to defend this drivel, but the metric is clearly normalized “per 1000 births”
Kaliax@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Ah, thanks I missed that.
JillyB@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
That actually doesn’t matter. The stats are per Capita.
BilboBargains@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Who’s gonna make all the technology, music, art, etc, after we’ve finally cured autism? We might have to start re-autisming people.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Please tell me this is fake
rirus@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
What’s wrong with the x-Axis?
shneancy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
if you look at it for 1s it looks scary. if you look at it for 2s it doesn’t make any fucking sense like, at all
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Main problem is that its not really an axis at all.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Maybe what’s important is the axis we made along the way
atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I think it’s birth cohorts
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I think it’s just the number of diagnoses made in that particular year. But it doesn’t matter because we know this graph is made up anyway. It’s a Trump administration putting it out, I bet not one of them knows how to get excel to output a bar chart, so instead it’s just random rectangles they’ve drawn.