I think the commenter in the picture was wooshed
Alexa, how do I remove cooties?
Submitted 2 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 2 months ago
marcos@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Also, it’s bothering me that it’s not immediate.
If he was going to be wooshed, he could at least get the details right…
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 months ago
I think a healthy body could survive a single instantaneous disappearance of current mRNA, as long as the mechanisms to create more mRNA remain functional. All cells would just respond to new conditions more slowly and less effectively for a few minutes to hours, leaving the body vulnerable to disbalancing conditions such as infections. Some cells would die but most of them can be replaced in days.
On the other hand, deleting DNA (and thus preventing the creation of RNA) cannot be survived. A great exploration of such scenario is in the No More DNA chapter in What If? by Randall Munroe: the syptoms would be like eating an Amanita mushroom such as the “Destroying Angel”, whose amatoxin prevents DNA transcription, or acute gamma irradiation. The patient is fine for a few hours (or less with a theoretical DNA wipe), then start exhibiting cholera-like symptoms (vomiting, abdominal pain, diarrhea), then they start to feel better. However, at that point, since cells can’t divide, immune system collapse or systemwide organ failure is inevitable.
gitamar@feddit.org 2 months ago
Simon is a communicator/influencer/pr guy from Bayer advising for science. He’s doing a lot of meme stuff on LinkedIn. He has a science background so I think the shortening is just for effect
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 months ago
getting through my first cup of coffee, woo was a bit wooshed. but then again…
neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
that’s the joke, no?
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 months ago
Yeah, and you can’t spread diesease while you’re dead, can you Simon?
bountygiver@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
unfortunately you can, just not as effective as living people do.
m4xie@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Still “greatly reduce”.
hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Think of the illnesses you could avoid if you removed your blood!
Geodad@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This is how amatoxins from mushrooms kills you. It shuts down mRNA synthesis in the liver.
otter@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
The amanitin toxin is heat stable, remaining toxic whether eaten raw or cooked. The mechanism of action of amatoxin is by inhibiting RNA polymerase, causing disruption of transcription of mRNA. As a result, hepatocytes cannot synthesize key protein coding genes, leading to the disintegration of nucleoli and pathologically centrilobular hepatic necrosis. This leads to the insidious onset of liver failure over 48 hours. Late onset (more than six hours after ingestion) of vomiting and watery diarrhea occur due to the second component in some of these mushrooms which are phallotoxin. Lepiota species lack phallotoxins so may not have the onset of vomiting and diarrhea until after 12 hours post-ingestion, or may just present with symptoms of liver failure at 24 hours post ingestion.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK431052/
Wow ok 😬
Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Well, heat stable to a point, though not sure how tasty mushroom ashes would be
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I love reading about Death Cap mushrooms and their cousin, Destroying Angel. By the time symptoms appear, you’ve already got irreversible damage. Specifically for Destroying Angel, as of 2016 there was about a 50 percent survival rate, but by 2023 that number had jumped to 85-90%. There’s no antidote. Mostly treatment is to hydrate the absolute fuck out of you so that you’re peeing out the toxin and pumping you full of electrolytes. The key to survival is detecting it as soon as possible.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Someone get the last half of this comment to RFK immediately.
halvar@lemy.lol 2 months ago
i thought that was the point
Agent641@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Certain temperatures can completely denature viruses like HIV and covid. Anything above 600 degrees should do the trick.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
600 degrees Celsius or Fahrenheit?
I’m not sure it matters, bluntly.
Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Kelvin could do the trick too.
Rankine might be a little more iffy though…
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Waitaminute. Are you telling me there are stupid people on the internet talking about things they don’t understand?
The internet is the worst thing we’ve ever done to ourselves. I mean, it was fine at first. But we didn’t have enough cynicism to account for what corporations would do with it and that’s, sadly, our own fault for being too naive.
psivchaz@reddthat.com 2 months ago
We also underestimated the number of idiots in the population. Or their ability to find little niches in which to congregate.
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
I like us building alternatives on the internet. The fediverse makes me hopeful again.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Agreed. It’s one of the only things about the internet where I’m genuinely optimistic.
rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
The internet is still okay, just don’t use any social network and ignore everything made by corporations.
biotin7@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
I mean you clearly demonstrated how stupid you are
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
When did I say anything remotely like that? Thanks for calling me stupid for making an observation.
Landslide7648@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
This is a joke. Have you considered the possibility that you are the stupid person in this case?
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Have you considered that you may not know which of the two I’m responding to?
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
We had really high hopes and big dreams for the Internet when it was conceived.
We ended up with social networks that steal and sell you information without your knowledge, and without any compensation to you, and “AI” slop for chat bots, and forum posts and pictures and even video now…
This is not what the Internet was made for.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 months ago
I don’t know if it’s true, but it feels like the Internet was better when it was limited to enthusiasts and people in higher education.
Letting every idiot post every word that comes to mind for the whole world to see was probably a mistake.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Look up “eternal september” on wikipedia. You’re not wrong at all.
drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
I actually wonder how long it would take to notice if all your mRNA stopped working.
I don’t think neuron action potentials rely directly on mRNA, so I think you’d be able to keep thinking for a bit, and probably moving your muscles too. The closest comparable thing is people that received massive radiation doses (can’t make new RNA out of shredded DNA) and in those cases it takes a bit before you start melting.
fullsquare@awful.systems 2 months ago
I think it would be comparable to situation where all mRNA is suddenly unusable, ie protein synthesis can’t run at all. This would be something like ricin or diphteria toxin poisoning, but instead of being limited to gastrointestinal lining it’s spread all over. I’d guess hours to days before anything visible starts happening (symptoms only start to appear when deficit in new protein synthesis becomes noticeable; all protein already made continues to work for sone time)
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Transcription + translation response time to stimulus is on the hour scale. So it wouldn’t be instant. But if your other RNA buggered off then I have no idea. The non-mRNA.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 months ago
I think I would prefer immediate death, thanks.
Randelung@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Good news, that’s always an option!
dudinax@programming.dev 2 months ago
Doesn’t the death cap mushroom work by destroying your DNA? I would imagine the effect would be similar.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
So does massive doses of radiation…
So we could just… Idk, expose people to radiation by way of some airborne delivery system that you could drop from a plane a safe distance away… Kind of like a bomb, but radioactive… An atom bomb, if you will.
Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Don’t destroying angel mushrooms basically stop your body from making proteins? That’s roughly the same net effect as RNA stopping working so it should give you a pretty good approximation.
stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I mean, he’s not wrong.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Came here to say this.
She’s technically correct, the best kind of correct.
Infamousblt@hexbear.net 2 months ago
I think everyone who wants all of their mRNA removed from their bodies should be allowed to do that
plinky@hexbear.net 2 months ago
there are some fungicides which stop new protein synthesis pointblank, a valid substitute i think.
soft@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
that’s the joke
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Someone is flexing his additional chromosomes.
underisk@hexbear.net 2 months ago
This is the kind of person that falls for the Dihydrogen Monoxide meme.
waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Wow they got our bodies addicted to mrna and now if we take them out we will die??!!!??
Noodle07@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Vax hacks
hperrin@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
While you’re at it, can you take out all the acid and all the chemicals?
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
First they fixate over protein metrics, and now they don’t want the actual protein synthesis? Having high intake of amino acids was already not doing most of what they claimed, but now we’re just gonna have our body not even use them? What a waste of resources. 0/10 (/s)
biotin7@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
The person doesn’t know how viruses work
Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I mean killing a major portion of all viruses will stop transmission. So would killing the person. Exactly how drinking bleach kills the virus.
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Ssshhhhh don’t tell them
plinky@hexbear.net 2 months ago
doggirl-smart not immediately surely, but like in an hour
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 months ago
you would be empty husk if you have no mrna.
Phineaz@feddit.org 2 months ago
But isn’t that what the first poster is playing on? It would certainly lower the chance of transmitting a virus
Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Yep, plus better 5G coverage for the rest of us too…
Klear@lemmy.world 2 months ago
But better 5G coverage increases chance of transmitting a virus…