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Would you rather unionize or buy some videogames?

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  • barnaclebutt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ah, the anti union tactic for assuming your employees are dumb losers.

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    • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I mean that seems like it would be pretty effective.

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      • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Looking at the political situation in the US and many other places, that unfortunately seems to be a winning strategy.

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    • PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Honestly, I read it as kind of similar to Putin's "outlandish lying on purpose to show dominance" strategy.

      If you can, to someone's face, tell them that they're so dumb that they think living wages aren't as important as being able to buy a new game system and play their stupid games while they shovel burgers into their fat working-class faces. It's negging as a way of emphasizing that they'll never be capable or organized enough to play at the big people's table, so go play your games, loser.

      That's how I read it. Maybe they think the people seeing this poster are dumb enough that they'll think "You know, he's right, I do want a new game system." But I feel like it's a deliberate insult to remind the underlings of their place. That's how I read it.

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    My union dues are 1.5%.

    But, my union:

    Makes sure I don’t have to take my work home with me.

    Says when it’s ok to be contacted by work at home.

    Got us a nice pay raise that more than covers any dues.

    Makes sure any training events are monitored, correctly administered and can’t be used to get rid of employees.

    Provides additional insurance that make up for shortfalls in employer coverage - particularly disability.

    Substance abuse and mental health help so that you can get help and not lose your job.

    And plenty more.

    All of it worth more to the entire group than any pain from the dues I pay. Love being in a union shop, worth it even with the few downsides.

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    • thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      lucky. my union reps are in the pocket of management and don’t do shit for us.

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      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        My school bus driver union (Teamsters) are not in anybody’s pocket but they still don’t do much for us. They did go to bat for our shop steward who was pulled over for DUI and blew a .32 and then was at work driving a bus full of kids three hours later. She was eventually fired but it took more than two weeks for the situation to be resolved. I’m very pro-union but the shit is not a panacea by any means.

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      • aeiou_ckr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I have sadly heard this from many unions. Kroger and the Metro in Houston, TX particularly.

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      • WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’ve worked somewhere like that. Someone was having a disciplinary and the rep sat on the same side of the table as management.

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      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        That does suck, and I have never been with a union where that isn’t a possibility. That’s one of the downsides whether or not they’re management’s tools. Top leadership tends to take care of itself first.

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  • MintyFresh@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ve got a proper union gig for the first time. I love it! Good benefits, decent pay. But the best part is having a union rep in your corner. I recently had a disagreement with management, took it to my rep, and viola! A reasonable result was achieved with a minimum of fuss. Was like a breath of fresh air. Everyone should unionize!!!

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    • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not that I was ever anti-union, but rather I work in an industry that has none. After coming back to work after a layoff, the daily grind has been an exercise in constant, agonizing, anxiety, as I have now experienced the horror of free-fall into an society with no safety net. I have seen the light. Having some additional insurance would feel really amazing right now.

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      • MintyFresh@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        What additional insurance does being non union offer?

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  • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    my union dues are $60 a paycheck

    but the price is worth it when my boss has to abide by my job description and has to pay me for overtime.

    i recently told the deputy IT director that what they asked for was not in my job description and that she should familiarize herself with it. I could tell by her reaction, the union is strong and having an understanding of what it’s there for is powerful against a bad boss

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    • Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I had no idea unions charged the members for membership! Guess it makes sense, who the fuck else is going to reliably support/fund unions

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      • Quicky@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Unions (in the UK at least) often provide financial support for striking workers so the money needs to come from somewhere.

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Public unions allow people to opt out of dues. Up until a relatively recent SCOTUS decision (Janus), they still had to pay partial fees to cover things like collective bargaining since they are still part of the same bloc as the union employees. But some conservative morons whined about it being against their beliefs to have to give money to a union (despite their partial dues literally being separated from anything politically-related. It’s just for the things they continue to benefit from), and it went to the Supreme Court.

        They want to kill public unions altogether, and cutting off those partial dues means less money for collective bargaining, etc. So of course they ruled against the unions.

        So they can opt out completely now.

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  • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Unionize and then you can buy more games.

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    • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      AND have more time to play them!!!

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  • SARGE@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    My last employee orientation really didn’t like me saying to the group of 10 or so “anti-union speeches should be just as illegal as insinuating we aren’t allowed to discuss wages”

    And also I have called a new employee a fucking idiot for saying “guys we aren’t supposed to talk about wages” when the topic came up one day and “I’m gonna get a manager” when the discussion continued.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah I’ve been told by quite a few people not to discuss pay rise offers. I’ve always said “yeah sure” and then completely ignored them the moment I left the office.

      If they hadn’t said anything at all I would have just assumed that everyone was getting the same offer the fact that they told me not to discuss it meant they were probably screwing us over. Best to find out about that.

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  • Chev@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You pay 700 $ for the Union but get yearly pay raises and work benefits. For most people the benefits give you immidiatly more money than it takes.

    I live in a country where over 90% of people work in an unionized environment.

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  • Darkard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Remember, if a company had nothing to loose then they wouldn’t be so desperate for you to stay out of the union.

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    • piccolo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Them: “You could save $700 without a union membership” Me: “You could pay me $700 more a year to keep me out of union” cue the pearl clutching

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Would definitely cost more if it were me… Much more benefit than $700 in health insurance alone.

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      • Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Your price is $0.33/hr?

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If you think they’ll just roll over and let employees join a union, you have a screw loose. Take a bet on that and you’ll lose.

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  • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    There are about 2000 working hours a year if you’re full time, so $700 works out to 35¢ an hour. If your union only gets you a 50¢/hr raise, it parts for itself.

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  • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Living in Europe means it was my boss who helped me get into a union for my first job. Unions are important.

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  • Matt3999@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Unions always have paid there way for me by better pay and conditions. Also, in Australia Union fees are tax deductible.

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    • Psythik@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Their*

      Still blows my mind that people confuse they’re, their, and there (along with your and you’re).

      I have a learning disability, yet I figured this out 20 years ago; why hasn’t anyone else? I just don’t get it.

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      • iii@mander.xyz ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        For some people english is there 3rd or 4th language. Their can be a mistake here and they’re.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The only job I ever had that was unionized, I really didn’t even notice the dues. I made so much more money than every other job I had, and I wasn’t even spending it because it was on a cruise ship where they fed me, clothed me, and gave me a place to sleep the whole 5 months. I had more money than I ever had at one time when I finally disembarked.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah I’ve heard stories about cruise ships. Who absolutely do not want to work on one where the crew are not in a union. You are effectively trapped in the office 24 hours a day for months on end, there’s a lot of scope for abuse of personnel in that scenario.

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  • Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If only people were taught that unions raise members wages.

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  • grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’m a public employee in a union and we get these types of anti-union propaganda mailed to us from the creeps at the Freedom Foundation.

    Save money and celebrate your rights! Public employees save an average of $900!

    There’s an “I want to leave the union” postcard filled out and attached, addressed to my union leaders.

    That one was St. Patrick’s Day themed.

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    • son_named_bort@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I used to get the same mailings. They send me a card to opt out of the union but nobody ever sends a card to opt out of those mailings.

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    • klu9@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Someone should do this for members of the Fraternal Order of Police.

      And it's already St. Patrick's Day-themed!

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    • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      it has all my personal details already filled out

      How in the everlasting dystopian fuck can those absolute thundercunts even do that.

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      • grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’m a public employee, so my name is a public record. I own a home, so my address is a public record.

        I’m not sure how they know which union I’m a member of, though. There’s at least 3 on campus.

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  • BurgerBaron@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    There are three chemical plants in my city who make similar products where I could work. Two of them pay half of what I make per hour.

    Guess which plant has a union?

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Wtf, is that sign real? No way, that can’t be real…

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    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yep, I was there when this happened.

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    • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You can almost write the script where management spitballs ideas on how to prevent people from joining the union.

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  • burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    would you rather have infinite video games and no union or no video games and no video games?

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  • InFerNo@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I pay 35€ every 3 months, so 4x35 per year

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    • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Delta employees must have the Platinum union plan.

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    sighs in sad Brazilian unions

    For context, we have unions, but many of them have been co-opted by politicians or their flunkies.

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  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I would rather pass laws that protect the worker thus negating any need for unions and their extra fees.

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    • eatCasserole@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That would be nice, but the government is controlled by the same people who don’t want you to unionize, so good luck.

      Besides unionized wages are higher, so those “fees” are more of an investment, with much higher returns than you’d typically get for investing only $700/year.

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    • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s not how this works. Pretty much all labour protections have been fought for by unions. Without unions none of those would exist.

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    • Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I live in Denmark, a country known for its great worker protection laws, and that is only because of the unions. I pay roughly 1000$ p.a and let me tell you one thing, that is the single greatest money I’ve ever spent. It is sort of a safetynet above the government one plus a lot of other things. Worker protection laws are great, but they won’t happen without your unions fighting for them.

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    • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Unions would be useful even then, and if american history over the past decades is any indication, strong unions might be necessary to keep those laws too, lest capital use it’s influence to erode them without an organized force to counter it.

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      • WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I don’t think strong unions, like they were, are a thing anymore, this is why rights or benefits are being reduced…generally speaking, world over.

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    • Mongostein@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Joining a union is easier

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    • Steve@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Laws dont work when nobody enforces them

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  • 33550336@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No time to play video games (or any), but already unionized.

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  • sirico@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Explain how

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    • ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Money can be exchanged for games as a service goods and services

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      • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I wish I had no kids and three money.

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  • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Wait, I remember this in Henry V, France sends Henry V of England tennis balls You don’t want to take back continental English soil. You want to play sports at home!

    The gift was not well received.

    I remember this bit when Putin gave Trump a football, a gesture that Trump did not fully understand.

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  • Johanno@feddit.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    In Germany there are unions that have it so if you join them the company pays you more. Even though the union already has a fair payment contract in place.

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  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Would you rather get endless hours of fun from a video game or blow the money on rent and never see it again?

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  • PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    "In the amount of time it takes to vote, you could play three games of pool. Three! Now dat's fresh."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0OwIMsQ4_4

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  • TwinTitans@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You also can deduct them from income come tax time :)

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  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This past year with my union benefits, I’ve been able to get my wife’s and my medications, had the entire family seen the dentist and had work done, have had medical expenses covered, gotten new glasses, had access to therapy and counselling, got orthopedic soles made. All with $0 out of pocket. The dental work alone would have been $2000+ out of pocket, so I will gladly pay those union dues

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