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A Completely Natural Conversation in the NYC Reddit

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Submitted ⁨⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨McTavern@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • CaptainBasculin@lemmy.bascul.in ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    hello guys yea i love [insert ad company name] products please buy [company product name] its so good trust me

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    • PotatoLibre@feddit.it ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I was just reminding a discussion with a guy about Reddit, who thinks Reddit is getting close to the real dead internet theory, just bots talkimg about whatever.

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      • user_name@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’ve definitely had moments where I found myself in some random r/ and realized I wasn’t sure if this was bot spam or actual humans. It’s pretty dissociating to actually fully internalize the dead Internet theory.

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      • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        the small subs seem to be the only place real interaction happens. local sports teams and city subs some of the fan based subs, etc …

        anything that gets on the front pages goes to shit

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    • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Meanwhile I know people already asking ai what they should buy for this and that. This surely will end very well for us corpos

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  • Squorlple@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Image

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    • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s from The Truman Show, yeah?

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      • Squorlple@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes

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    • jeanofthedead@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ve tried other cocoas!

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  • selokichtli@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is this the kind of AI ads they were talking about?

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    • gon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Gots to be

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  • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What does the comment history look like on those accounts? I’m guessing when you pay for the spam package, they create fake comment histories for the bot accounts.

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    • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Image

      Making sense tbh.

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      • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ooh that’s a good one. Sounds legit.

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    • McTavern@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      First guy has a short history within one post five months ago, then 3 years prior. Second guy and third guy has a big gap 3-7 year gap in history then suddenly a lot of comments. So yea, bots.

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    • megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Often times the services have a fleet of accounts, they have them do reposts of old popular posts with titles and some content rephrased, then some of the rest of the fleet copies the top comments and rephrases those and posts them below.

      This builds a history of realistic and semi popular looking posts in a way that is fairly easy to automate . Anyone who looks closely could potentially figure out a given account, or even cluster of accounts, is farmed, but it takes effort and time to prove it, more effort and time than it takes for them to spoil up another batch of bots.

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      • Sabata11792@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They also buy active accounts with high karma and age. I got offered $100 in BTC for my account one time. I guess they did not look at how horny my comments were.

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      • Sergio@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        fleet of accounts

        I like the use of the term “fleet” in this context, bc it brings to mind the Battle of Midway but re-done with bots online.

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  • VagueAnodyneComments@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    i’m glad you guys think this is bots, i know people who suck this badly

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  • zod000@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I only go to Whole Foods for a few specific stuff items that I can’t get elsewhere due to food allergies. There is no way they are the cheapest place to get groceries.

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  • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Making extensive use of food delivery services is a trait i unapologetically use to filter people out of my life. (Unless they have medical reasons…)

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    • windowsphoneguy@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Why? I know several young families that just don’t have the time or a car to get groceries for the whole week, delivery services help them a lot

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      • Sergio@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Also elderly people. Me or other family buy groceries for an aunt, she has Amazon for emergencies.

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      • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        How can you not have time to buy groceries? It’s not that big of a process.

        I understand not having a car though. Some places are not very walkable.

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    • morrowind@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My mom makes extensive use of a good delivery service. It’s called me

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    • Ledivin@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I guess I don’t really understand the purpose, here… You don’t like having rich friends?

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        What do you people think “rich” means?

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      • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        why would people like having rich friends? it’s not like they’re likely to share their wealth, or they probably wouldn’t be rich…

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  • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Someone post the thread!

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  • Toneswirly@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This reminds me of a time when i used to subscribe to Hydro Homies and there was always someone in the comments tryna hawk a Berkey water filter.

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  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t think that’s actually an unusual conversation for people who live in Manhattan to have. The comments about relative prices are accurate in my experience - I live on the same block as a Gristides and I still never shop there because of how expensive it is, even compared to Whole Foods. I get most of my groceries in Brooklyn on the weekends.

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    • Carnelian@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I agree. Personally I have made multiple amazon accounts and subscribe to prime on each of them. It costs me more upfront, but I get more cash back on my orders. Plus, by buying different raw materials on different accounts the feds are less likely to discover my moonshine operation

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      • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Nah if I’m going to shill for any Manhattan grocery store, it will be Fairway. It’s also really expensive but it feels like being in the sort of store you’d go to if you were rich, not like being ripped off. Their cheese counter has prices per 1/4 pound for some of the cheeses but then if you get some $15 per 1/4 pound cheese it will taste so good that you’ll think it was worth it. I haven’t been in years but I still long for that cheese.

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    • uuldika@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I buy all my groceries from Omega Mart, like a normal person.

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    • yucandu@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah but also, Whole Foods and Amazon and other companies absolutely are doing this. They’d be stupid not to. The companies that aren’t paying for spam bots online will go out of business soon.

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  • taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You know, use of long dash is the same kind of tell as an image having 6 fingers. Not impossible to find in human interactions but generally very rare, especially in online conversation. (I’m not even sure if my phone can do a long dash, just these fellows: —).

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    • kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Emdashes might also insteab be a sign that the commenter is a nerd

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, or just someone that has read books before…

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    • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I use the em-dash a lot. It’s not just about the presence of one, the issue is that LLMs know they exist but don’t know where they go. It’s sort of like a semicolon, which goes where neither a comma nor a period feel right. An em-dashes simply goes where neither comma nor period nor semicolon feels right

      On my keyboard, I just click the button on the bottom left to see punctuation, and then long-press the hyphen

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      • erev@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Well em-dashes can be used in place of other punctuation that is typically used to denote parenthetical information — such as commas and parentheses — but it also has other uses. Similar to a semicolon it can also be used when changing the idea of a sentence — it’s versatile and often an overlooked and underutilized piece of punctuation. Additionally, when you have multiple parenthenthical levels, such as this which is commonly placed within commas — or parentheses — which can be overused, it allows you to segment different layers of parenthetical information.

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      • Scranulum@feddit.nu ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Single em dashes can almost always be used interchangeably with semicolons—they typically separate independent clauses without a conjunction.

        Paired em dashes—used to demarcate parenthetical expressions—can be replaced by commas, but not by semicolons.

        It has less to do with what feels right and more to do with the mechanics of the sentence. There is a good bit of wiggle room, figuratively speaking, in deciding whether to use commas or paired em dashes—likewise, whether to use a single em dash or a semicolon is almost entirely a stylistic choice. But I feel like the way you explained it is a bit misleading to people still learning the difference.

        An em dash can also be used to delineate an abrupt break in the direction or structure of a sentence or dialogue in a way that commas or semicolons simply—fuck, I just shit my pants.

        Not trying to be a pedant, just sharing what I’ve learned over the years.

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      • affiliate@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        i always thought that em-dashes were used instead of commas whenever

        1. your sentence already has too many commas, or
        2. you want to be fancy
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    • thesohoriots@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      An em dash — when used properly — is perfectly fine, but a little academic. iOS will do one automatically with two hyphens and a space.

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      • grue@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Lemmy markdown — which is better than Reddit markdown in some ways, but worse in others — will automatically do a similar conversion, except it takes three hyphens instead of two (two hyphens gets you an en dash). It’s nice, but also unfortunate because it messes up people’s muscle memory since using only two for it mimics what was customary when writing in ASCII, on mechanical typewriters, etc.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is a bad take. I use em dashes if I feel it’s called for. It’s just proper grammar. We probably shouldn’t be making people dumb down the way they write so as to not be mistaken for AI.

      Read some books, you’ll see that it’s used all of the time.

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      • uuldika@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I use dashes all the time, but em-dashes? I don’t even know how to type those. I guess I could long-press the dash on my phone and select it, but… why?

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  • Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m always worried about this whenever I talk about the fairphone or framework laptop but I also sell Linux like a merchant so I think people get I’m just a nerd

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    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      TBF those companies don’t have the budget for a astroturfing bot campaign, or at least can’t afford the PR hit.

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  • renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Imposter among us

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