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Sure, there was the attempted assassination of Reagan and the fears for Obama as the first black President, but in those cases it was a lone nutter rather than a conspiracy.
How long can Trump crash the market before an angry billionaire decides to take him out? The remaining Koch brother is already pouring money into legal challenges against Trump…
There’s already been like five attempts, and two of them got shots off. Eventually, someone might get lucky.
If they get lucky, we all get lucky
Not sure Vance is much of a gain over Trump. How far down the chain would we have to go to find someone palatable?
I think things would get a bit more complicated than that, unfortunately.
They only need to get lucky once.
Hitler survived 30+ attempts, so don’t count on it. The people running this simulation wants to watch us suffer.
Ok this might be my new favourite conspiracy
Our universe is a simulation created by a group of facists that are using us to research how they can gain and maintain power. If a successful fascist regime takes hold then the experiment will be over and the simulation will be shut off, the only way to survive is to continue to fend off fascisum.
I don’t think it’s at all likely. Trump knows he’s hated, and he isn’t about to go and do a parade in a convertible. More importantly, the secret service knows he’s hated and know they screwed up huge in letting someone take a shot at him, so they’ve dialed security up to 11.
Reagan and JFK were shot at a time when they had extremely high approval ratings. It was probably harder for the secret service to stay focused and for everyone to take threats seriously when that was the case.
This isn’t a Hollywood movie where a billionaire can go on the dark web and hire The Jackal or something. If they were to try to place a hit, most of The Jackals out there are probably feds posing as hitmen.
But, let’s say somehow a billionaire could find people willing to make the attempt. Trying to assassinate the US president is a suicide mission. If someone tries to do it as a lone gunman, they’re going up against the entire secret service. They may get the attack in, but they’re almost certainly not going to get away. If it’s a group of attackers, the more people, the more communications, the more communications, the more opportunities for the NSA to spot them.
And, this is one time we don’t have to worry about nation-states attacking the president. The US is punching itself in the dick over and over right now. If you’re someone who wants the US to fail, you just have to stand by and watch. In fact, if an enemy’s surveillance of the US turned up a plan to kill Trump, they’d probably warn the secret service to make sure Trump stays in power as long as possible.
i had a friend in the drama department in college. he was an idiot. he was one of those guys who got older every year but his girlfriends didn’t. a few years after we all graduated, we all went our ways. word made it through the grapevine one day because we all got google alerts. he’d been arrested by the feds, and not for statutory like we’d all first assumed. nah, he couldn’t get a job after college so he tried to convince an undercover ATF officer to engage in some light terrorism/treason as a way of blowing off steam. funniest thing is, my mom and that ATF officer’s wife go on vacation together like twice a year (they lived in my hometown for fifteen years, we’re friends).
But what happens when you tell trump how GOOD he would look in a convertible in a large parade?
He’d know what it would do to his hair, he’d never risk that.
No, the secret service did not screw that up. They told the Trump campaign they could not secure the area and the campaign ignored them. Trump is far dumber than Hitler. Hitler had people protecting him and he respected their work. Trump dismisses anything that mildly annoys or inconveniences him. He absolutely will be shot, we just have no idea when or what country will get credit for the kill.
What country would want him shot? He’s destroying the US more effectively than any enemy could ever hope to do.
Hitler, unlike Trump, fought in an actual war. If nothing else, that goes a long way towards respecting the power of violence - both to give and receive it.
A suicide mission might not be as much of an issue if someone’s entire life is in shambless due to economic collapse, no healthcare and God knows what else is cooking up over there in the US. I mean, you’re prolly very tight that the feds are on top of it, but human life can be pretty squishy, especially for a ca. 80 y.o. man. Someone could leave a carrot on the white house doorstep and he might trip and snap his neck, who knows.
But I’m more curious about the people who lose everything, are getting truly desperate, and have nothing left to fear.
Yeah, people forget that there are entire generations of Americans whose only feasible retirement plans are suicide or homicide
Considering how the Trump Regime consistently fires anyone who is competent but DEI or not glazing Trump’s asshole, I think an assassin would have an easier time than usual.
It’s going to take a while to weed all the competent people out of the secret service.
very small… I mean, can you imagine the accuracy needed for a bullet to find his brain?
Or his heart!
Well how many bullets to the ass do you think it would take to put a man down? Especially considering the generous proportions of Trump’s rump.
Its a target you can’t miss.
The area a sniper shoots to hit is about the size of a peach pit and isn’t actually a part that’s involved in cognition but rather it does all the autonomic shit you need to survive.
This is the type of alternative thinking we need to solve all our problems
If we’re being real, it’s not likely at all. He’s probably safer than Biden was.
Not only does the secret service impose incredibly tight security (not perfect, mind you), but Trump doesn’t go anywhere except the White House and his shithole golf course.
In order to assassinate him, it would probably have to be an inside job. That seems exceptionally unlikely.
He’s also useful. A lot of the kinds of people who might wish to be rid of him back in the day would much rather put him to use for their own ends.
Martyrdom is an honour that Trump doesn’t deserve. If we are lucky, he will die in prison of old age.
We will never be lucky, so somebody shoot him now
You’re going to have a long list of next in lines
I’ll take it… it will be annoying to watch people act like he his some great figure but at least the damage he is doing will be over.
if we’re lucky, he’ll be fed into a chipper shredder feet first on live television as a warning to other would-be fascists.
Statistically, he’ll die of poor health in the next four years. He’s very unhealthy, and very old. Medicine can only do so much.
We thought that when he got covid though.
Some people are kept alive through sheer meanness.
My hypothesis: narcissistic people live longer, because they apply the placebo effect at all times to themselves.
It’s said that the good die young. That orange shitstick might be nearly immortal.
It’s the mean granny rule.
And in that case, access to treatment not available to the general public yet.
Keep sending him burgers and fries
If he’s got dementia, he’ll probably die within 10 years of his first symptoms, and that’s been a while. It’ll still be too long, obviously.
One can only hope…
I’m surprised it hasn’t been taken care of already.
There’s definitely been a few attempts (though I’m not convinced they weren’t false flags)
false flags
Who the fuck tries to do a Photo Op after a gunman tried to kill you?
Also, how did secret service know there’s only one gunman?
Seems fishy 🤔
Something that will really perk up my attention is if people start shooting at his security. That will indicate anger is so ripe that even protecting him makes you a target.
It’s hard to say. He’s definitely closer to it than any president since JFK. But security is way better these days. And before the FBI comes knocking on my door, this is just an objective analysis.
We’ve already had a shooter with a near miss. So clearly there’s the will to do this among some segment of the population. Probably a conservative who feels betrayed or person who is truly far left, (not just a progressive).
However, security during the campaign and for JFK was a lot less than it is now. It’s going to be a lot harder to get close enough with a rifle. If you think of a plan the USAA has already thought about it and probably has a counter of some sort.
So while he’s definitely the closest, I don’t think we’ll see another president assassinated unless they do something truly stupid like gut the USSS.
We’ve already had a shooter with a near miss. … Probably a conservative who feels betrayed or person who is truly far left, (not just a progressive).
That person had been searching for info on the schedules of both Biden and trump. That along with some of the other info we learned about him makes me think it wasn’t so much a political motivation as the desire to become famous and/or take someone famous down on his way off the planet.
I mean, it takes all kinds right? A desire to go out big can manifest in so many ways and he didn’t go after an A list actor, or a CEO, or any number of other high profile people. There is a reason he decided on Trump, even if his original impetus was suicide.
But if the school shooting crowd decides that going after presidents gets them more attention, then only one of them has to get lucky.
That first attempt the shooter was seen beforehand and they did a quick check…he did end uo getting into position again AND took the shot.
Needless to say when security is that incompetent, it is highly likely he’ll see his demise in such a manner.
That’s part of my point now though, he’s going to have the very best and about ten times the people on the job as compared to his security detail back then.
take out JD. too
I’m still amazed that sniveling bitch JD Vance ever qualified as a US Marine.
Maybe the marines saw him snacking on a box of crayons and they got confused, assuming he must be one of theirs?
Marketing aside, any normative young person can pass boot camp. (And basic training) The military gets worried when the pass rates for those courses gets low. Versus keeping pass rates low for schools like special squirrel.
It is a testimony to Marine training and the DI’s that they got that couch fucking weirdo Vance up to speed enough to be a Marine.
The standards for marines aren’t high in the brains department, just the couch fucking
Calling it now: it will be one of his MAGA supporters who feels betrayed somehow.
I think he’s more likely to have a massive Big Mac Attack and just keel over. Which would be a good thing because the MAGA opportunists will claw each other to pieces trying to be the top dog, or rat or cockroach. It will frag the whole Magapublican party.
Shitty people seem to be indestructible, like Hitler and the bunker bomb. Stalin died of a stroke (probably).
Official death reason: assassination
Actual death reason: hit by a golf ball.
I hear he’s planning a parade even bigger than Anwar Sadat’s.
As much as I hate the guy I hope he isn’t killed. The last thing we need is republicans having a martyr, especially before they find out how bad for them he is.
With tariff fallout there are decent chances they will not have a majority for a long time. After the tariff act of 1930 they went from having 14 seats more than democrats to a low of 16 seats out of 96 In senate in just 8 years. After that they had a senate majority once and congress majority twice in the next 50+ years.
I would love to see it but the real change can only come from dems sweeping midterms.
There is a whole order of succession which empowers the christofascit VP and then christofascist house speaker, christofascist senate leader, christofascist secretary of state, etc.
There is a chance the cult of personality crumbles, but also a chance he becomes a martyr.
I think by the time we hit 2026 there will be tens of millions who voted MAGA who wish that last year’s attempt would have succeeded, but logistically, it’s basically impossible now. Anything that might get Trump would probably have to be powerful enough to take out a whole crowd, and that’s just very unlikely.
I’d say 100% if there was any sort of karmic balance to the universe.
It’s a question that can’t really be answered until it can be answered
Highly unlikely and I hope to god it doesn’t happen. Imagine the hagiography that would surround the piece of shit were that to happen.
i still wonder. HOW DID THAT ONE GUY MISS?!
🤞🏻
He certainly has a lot of enemies but I don’t think it’s likely with his upped security being President again. I still can’t believe we were an inch short of a Trump free world…
Gotta also consider the odds that he’s not there for much longer anyway. The Project 2025/Heritage Foundation people got JD Vance in as VP as they wanted–he’s one of them.
So I’ve been predicting since he won that the 25th Amendment will be used (if something else doesn’t happen to him), probably not until after the midterms so Vance can still run for 2 more terms. They need to set up the right conditions before ousting him, which will be making him look physically incapable of continuing, like saying he’s had a stroke or something. Congress/Senate has to believe it so they’ll go along with it.
God please no. We dont need him to be a martyr.
Time travelers already tried and failed. It’s a fixed point in time.
N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
A public assassination like Kennedy’s is meant to send a message. Trump would just have a cardiac event and never come out of the hospital. The real issue will be that he’s old and fat and eats trash, so he could have a legit health problem and die from natural causes easily at his age.
But then, President JD Vance. I don’t think anyone but Peter Thiel and Elon Musk want that. Trump sucks, but he’s the devil you know. Vance could be turboHitler or just hand the whole country to Silicon Valley. Rule by ChatGPT may be the worst of all possible worlds.
aaron@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
YES. This guy gets it. Nobody understands how lucky we are to have this fuckwit as president. Do you see all these actual fascists constantly up in his prostate? Trump was a proof of concept. These taint-lickers are panting to have control. Let’s see how his mouth-breathing paint-eating constituency acts when this fat fuck is dead. Probably no different, but maybe.
joekar1990@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah but the difference is Trump has the magnetism and Vance doesn’t? Usually when a cult leader dies the whole cult kinda fizzles out.
DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
WE ARE NOT LUCKY TO HAVE A FUCKING HALF-DEAD RETARD AS PRESIDENT. THIS IS NOT OKAY AT ANY FUCKING LEVEL.
MolochAlter@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The only thing possibly holding them off is that there’s 2 or 3 factions all wanting to long knife™ eachother at the first chance, which means they have to be ready to go as soon as the power vacuum happens, and one of the factions controls the VP seat.
That might delay the chaos a bit, but not for long.
finder585@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Trump and the media have built a cult of personality around Trump. I don’t see how that power could transfer to another person, I can’t think of another person in the line up that has personality.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Vance has no conviction behind anything he ever says. Just google “jd vance never trump” and I’m sure you’ll find a slew of videos from a few years ago where he was saying he’s “a never trump guy”.
Kinda funny how quickly he spread his asshole to present himself for trump then.
Serinus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Vance could be relatively good. Signs point to no, but those signs are weak. The only thing I truly know about him is that he’ll lie for power. What he does once he gets that power is anyone’s guess.
He’s close to Peter Thiel. His book is really fucking condescending towards the rural poor. (Why don’t they just get out like he did?) He’s young enough to go for a second term if he gets half a first term. And he hates Trump except when he needs to use him to gain power.
That’s the complete record of what we know about Vance. Maybe his book was bullshit that he knew would play well with rich conservatives. Maybe he was using Peter Thiel. Maybe there’s a human in there we’ve never seen. Or maybe not.
FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Trump crashing the economy, Trump dying from whatever, Vance taking over and taking credit for any kind of recovery sounds almost like its planned.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Nah. The damage Trump has done can’t be undone.
Sure vance might replace him and take credit for any recovery, but this level of destruction was not planned.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
I don’t buy that.
Whoever would be able, and willing, and succeeding with the first one, is an evil person, and would already have a plan with the second one. An evil plan, I guess, that would make the second one scared enough to become that puppet.
endeavor@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
You don’t have to beat around the bush, you fan just say putin.
aaron@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 3 weeks ago
So first kill Vance unawares, then kill Drumpf? Gotcha, noted!
radix@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
President Mike Johnson outlaws women going out in public alone and institutes daily Bible reading classes. Attendance is mandatory if you don’t want to end up in an El Salvador slave prison.
Dasus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And Putin