The fact that this is a real image is infuriating

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Honestly I try not to get caught up in all the drama.

  I could care less about what they do since I don’t have any control over it.

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  • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak for me.

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    • K1nsey6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      The problem is liberals only speak out, in action they don’t do shit to protect the vulnerable, they never hold their own politicians accountable for their inaction.

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      We aren’t talking about Nazi Germany here. If there is something going down I want to know about it. However, so far it is just been more gossip type stuff than anything.

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  • lemmylommy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    That’s the Russian way. „I don’t have control, I don’t really know, better not get involved“.

    The problem is, I kind of feel the same way. It’s just too much at some point.

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    • ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Yes, part of the authoritarian playbook is to train the populace to disengage from politics.

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    • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Watering the tree of liberty something or other.

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  • OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

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• hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Please let him die already…

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• Ascend910@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Maybe trump is just the Paul von Hindenburg of our time, the real threat is someone who we don’t expect at all.

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• PieMePlenty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Holy shit lol

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• BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Green subsidies and techno-futurists made this guy the richest man on earth, hope you all are happy.

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Ironic

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• OceanSoap@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Image

  He joins these other established Nazis.

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  • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Show it in video you coward. A single frame is meaningless in this context.

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    • OceanSoap@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      x.com/JayVTheGreat/status/1881919915499962529

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    • 13esq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      In a post that only shows an image your comment is rather ironic.

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  • ProtecyaTec@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Let’s see the videos side by side and vote on which one is the closest to a nazi salute / gesture.

    Or go shill your propaganda somewhere else, maybe with the rest of the nazi sympathizers.

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    • OceanSoap@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      You can look all of em up yourself. None of them are Nazi salutes

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  • gofsckyourself@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    www.youtube.com/live/GE0jmgGF0yk?t=2131

    She’s clearly gesturing the idea of ‘looking ahead’ and ‘out there’. She had been doing so for a while, but the screen grab only grabs the one gesture where her hand happens to be flat.

    Elon’s was clearly a salute, particularly since what he said his action was as he was doing it is the definition of a salute.

    I want to thank you for making it happen
    *salutes*
    My heart goes out to you
    ~ Musk

    salute
    
    1
      a: to address with expressions of kind wishes, courtesy, or honor.
    
      b: to give a sign of respect, courtesy, or goodwill to [greet]
    
    2
      to become apparent to (one of the senses)
    
    3
      a: to honor (a person, a nation, an event, etc.) by a conventional military or naval ceremony
    
      b: to show respect and recognition to (a military superior) by assuming a prescribed position  
    
      c: to express commendation of [praise]
    
    

    www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salute

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  • 13esq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Get out of here with your rationalism. Musk is a literal Nazi and we’re all going to die!!!

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  • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Fucking ADL coping hard lmao. The organisation that will call anything antisemite, and the best friend to Trump and the current government, is saying this isn’t nazi salute. Yet you think they’re credible?

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  • illi@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Did you see the video? It was done with deliberation. Twice.

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• WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Now the real final battle begins. I have nothing much to live for anyway. When Europe declares war against America…at least we won’t just sit around when we die.

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  • Carighan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Sadly a lot of EU states are staring down a similar barrel of mass-illiteracy and mass-stupidity being exploites via the rich controlling the media. Look at the rise of the AfD in Germany of all countries, for example.

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    • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Its not the rich, its russian backed populists who look at trump and go “he has some good ideas”

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  • transitinoir@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Bro, Europe can not help Ukraine force out literally 1984-style genocidal occupiers (Russia and North Korea), no way they would do anything to America.

    Saying this as a European myself

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• ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I’m starting to dislike this guy

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  • nieminen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Wait, “starting”?

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Honestly he deserves to be thrown out of the spot light. My constantly giving him attention we are just feeding the fire.

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• vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  NGL, I’m speechless/infuriated because of this. Not going to really function today I think.

  Well, gotta fake it a bit later when the kids get home.

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• Rhoeri@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Finding out that musk is a Nazi is infuriating? Or just nazis in general?

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• hellfire103@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  loops.video/v/60nGSFkFR7

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  • Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I refuse to believe this is real.

    But if it is, here’s to hoping a time traveler from the futures saves us all before things really go Fourth Reich.

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• houstoneulers@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  This is so fkn crazy how brazen they are

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• BigMacHole@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Why is the Unelected US President and RICHEST Person on Earth doing a LITERAL NAZI SALUTE infuriating?

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  • ProtecyaTec@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Why are they running a memecoin scam, and nobody is regulating that for a sitting U.S. president?

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• big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  This is mob insanity at work. Objectively this doesn’t matter at all. No nazi.

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  • Smokeless7048@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Not sure if you are joking or not… If not, did you watch the video?

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    • big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      No. Can you link me?

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  • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Watch the video.

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  • Entropywins@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Waving at the audience with a very special Hitler wave…

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  • TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Considering the audience is made up of right wing losers, you aren’t 100% wrong. He was giving a very special wave to the audience

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    • big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I find that the people who use terms like “right wing loser” are indistinguishable from the people who use terms like “left wing loser”.

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• LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  From Reuters:

  The Anti-Defamation League, which tracks antisemitism, disagreed. “It seems that @elonmusk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute, but again, we appreciate that people are on edge,” it posted on Monday. In Germany, the president of the Jewish community in Munich and Upper Bavaria, Charlotte Knobloch, described the gesture as “highly irritating”. “Far more worrying are Elon Musk’s political positions, his offensive interference in the German parliamentary election campaign and his support for a party whose anti-democratic aims should be under no illusions,” she said in a statement.

  Look if the extremely jumpy ADL doesn’t call it anti-Semitic it’s a real reach to call at a Nazi salute. And don’t tell me they are in on the conspiracy. Most politicians know better than to hold out their arms like that, Musk clearly does not.

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  • sudo@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    The ADL serves Israel and only Israel and Trump is Shahanshah in Israel. Its a thoroughly discredited organization especially over the last year.

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  • Trashboat@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Watch the video. Look with your own eyes. It’s a Nazi salute.

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  • itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    The ADL exists to peddle Zionism and conflate it with Antisemitism, and to defend Israel’s interests. Do not take them serious. Listen to other Jewish voices, like the Holocaust survivors who are actively warning about the US sliding into fascism for years now. This was absolutely meant as a Hitler salute, and to pretend otherwise is disingenuous

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  • zmrl@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Perhaps if it was in a vacuum but musk has openly shared Nazi propaganda on his social media site that he bought. The ADL is an organization I don’t trust

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    In his defense I have done the Nazi salute a few times as a child. However, I never did it on national TV.

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• 13esq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  What’s more likely?

  A large proportion of Americans are very ready to be extremely upset and will look in to things that aren’t there, like a socially inept Musk appearing to make a Nazi salute.

  Or

  Musk intentionally made a Nazi salute.

  I know it’s emotional times, but I think a huge amount of people aren’t thinking rationally.

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  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    The second. He said thanks to his right wing supporters, twice.

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  • tomi000@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I would like to rephrase your proposed options while preserving their real meaning:

    1. The worlds richest man doesnt know what a Nazi salute look like and accidentally does it twice.

    2. A Nazi does a Nazi salute.

    I would say its around 1:99 in favor of number 2.

    Also, it doesnt even really matter if he did it intentionally (which of course he did). Any sane person knows you dont do Nazi salutes in public, thats why other politicians dont do them even unintentionally.

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  • shani66@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    He literally supports Germany’s modern Nazi party.

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  • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    1)the self proclaimed smartest man in the world somehow does not know what a nazi salute is and proceeds to not do the nazi salute 3times in a row very enthusiastically during the inaguration of a president who literally went to the white house to pardon people guilty of treason, covered in nazi tatoos and working in a nazi milita group. Pure coincidence he is very pro nazi parties in europe.

    2)The most sound of mind and body man in the world who personally engineered spacex, tesla and hyperloop is has unfortunately lost control of his body and photographers captured it out of context. In a video. Where it happened 3 times in a row.

    3)You elected into the office someone who did the nazi salute 3 times during the re election of a felon and a man who attempted a coup.

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  • 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Ah someone level headed. That’s refreshing.

    I thoroughly hate Musk, as so many of us, so I can understand the eagerness to misinterpret things in the worst way possible.

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    • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I agree, its very refreshing. When you really think about it hitler wasnt too bad either so I’m glad musk is doing a little nod to that.

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• gwilikers@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  乁(סּ͡͡‎෴סּ͡͡‎)ㄏ̸/̸̅̅ ̆̅ ̅̅

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• nifty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  So interesting thing to note from history, in many cases western people or nations pulled ahead by betraying non-western allies or peoples. The prosperity of the current globalist, neoliberal world is built on multicultural alliances.

  Basically people like this are signaling to anyone who’s paying attention and has been keeping score of historical record “DONT TRUST US, WE WILL BETRAY YOU!!”. There’s just not enough economic activity in the western nations to uphold their current levels of activity and productivity without multicultural alliances, so this is an interesting turn.

  Power is an interesting concept because a lot of it assumed on the part of those who claim, and those who relinquish it often don’t even realize the cards they hold because they’re gaslit into believing the lies of their opponents. What a shitty and annoying world, and here I was hoping for a Star Trek future in my lifetime.

  Lastly, the whole “white supremacy” thing doesn’t make sense when there are people of Persian descent who are more Aryan than many white Europeans, so that’s a huge lol.

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• Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  A Nazi showing his true colors. Right after Trumps Machtergreifung.

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• Machinist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I can’t be fucked to go and see. Tired, been working in the cold.

  Is this getting much mainstream coverage or is it being ignored?

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  • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Mainstream coverage seems to have been trying to tell everyone everywhere not to believe their lying eyes.

    Some appear to have modified their reporting to actually say it was a Nazi salute however, ostensibly under pressure.

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• thisguy1092@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Trump ❤️

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• NastyNative@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  “hook, line, and sinker” This guy is the biggest troll… you dont think he did that on purpose to get this much attention…

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• Swarfega@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  How is such a smart guy so dumb?

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• 0x0@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  That could be crap-ass dabbing though.
  Yes, Elon Musk’s a fascist but i dislike echo-chambers.

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• LillyPip@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Bold of him to make that move without a toddler protecting his head from gunfire.

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• 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I really hate that that’s not AI generated bullshit.

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• TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I wish I could say that I’m more shocked than I actually am.

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• thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  America’s Doge!!! What are the odds he can now stay with his new agency, or that the agency will even exist now?

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• AidsKitty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I dont think Elon Musk is a nazi. I’ve never seen any evidence that he is a nazi nor have I ever seen any presented. I think he is an asshole that harasses people for his personal satisfaction. He is so rich that no matter what happens he, his children, and all their children will all enjoy the highest quality lives available. There may also be some chemical addiction mixed in there as well as some mental illness.

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