some developers “hope” the next installment in the GTA franchise will be priced at $80–$100
Management are not developers.
Executives are NOT DEVELOPERS.
Shareholders are NOT DEVELOPERS.
GTA VI Might Inspire Other AAA Developers to Price Their Games at $100
Submitted 4 months ago by Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
https://80.lv/articles/gta-vi-might-inspire-other-aaa-developers-to-price-their-games-at-usd100/
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rtxn@lemmy.world 4 months ago
activ8r@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Yeah, I guarantee you not a single developer gives two shits about how much the game costs. It’s not going into their pockets regardless.
WiggleDog@lemmy.world 4 months ago
That’s not true. I’ve been a developer for 18 years on big AAA and small indie games. Most people I’ve worked with very much cared about pricing. When you work on a game and put years of hard work into it, you want it to be a success. If the game is not profitable, you might lose your job so of course you care when management shows up with a pricing strategy that doesn’t make sense to you. Sure, passion is a big part of making games but it’s also our job and we’re not oblivious to what the game we’re working on is worth.
Oh and yes, we do get bonuses based on the performance of the game.
absquatulate@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’m loving the balls on studios. Yesterday we had “experts” suggesting it might cost 100 bux, and today it’s already the beggining of a trend. And the ges isn’t even out. In fact, we only have the trailer for the game and they’re already predicting prices.
My prediction is yes, they’ll ask 100$ and more, and yes, people will pay it.
But the nerve, I swear. “Yeah, our games have gotten sloppier every year. And yes, we fired tens of thousands solely for profit reasons. But line must go up, so you better start paying”
Frozengyro@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Do you really think people will buy it? I’ve played most of the GTAs, but I’m not about to spend 100 dollars on a video game.
reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
You’re clearly not the target audience. Every slightly popular game has its whales. Something as popular as GTA? They’ll sell it at $100 and laugh all the way to the bank.
noobdoomguy8658@feddit.org 4 months ago
There’s enough people in what I assume to be big gaming communities, like active and paying and stuff, that are defending this, citing that other stuff got more expensive, too… and somehow not many agree that incomes have not risen proportionally. Them temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
Somehow I think that most people defending this kind of crap are too young to actually have a first-hand feeling of how much prices for everything have risen.
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
My prediction is yes, they’ll ask 100$ and more, and yes, people will pay it.
Well the game could be disastrous and sell poorly after the first week.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
To be honest, they could launch the game as a 1 MB file that brings you to a black screen that says get fucked, and they would still make their money’s worth just out of the people who will blindly buy the game because they’ve been waiting for GTA 6 for so long that they bought it release day.
And then they could just move back to GTA V pretending nothing happened because the same people that would have impulse purchased GTA 6 with zero research are also the people who play GTA V religiously spending money on the micro transactions there
jacksilver@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Honestly this could all be a campaign from Rockstar to get ahead of higher pricing. They throw out $100 to some random people and let them run with it, so when they announce a $80/$90 price tag everyone bregurdingly goes along with it.
absquatulate@lemmy.world 4 months ago
That’s what I’m thinking. Get the fanbase used to seeing 100+, and then suddenly an 80$ game will feel like a bargain lol
Kyouki@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I honestly believe it, these test the water kind of leaks, more like intentionally invisible marketing to see the reactions
Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
I think rumours about the price tag were already going before the trailer even came out lol.
Quazatron@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Looks like PatientGamers’ membership numbers will be on the rise soon.
Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I never pay full price for a game.
Isthereanydeal.com
Humblebundle.com
Gog.com
Always running sales. If they aren’t just check history or set an alert on isthereanydeal and wait a bit.
Quazatron@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This is the way.
Thank you for the first link, kind stranger.
PushButton@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I don’t even buy a game when it’s 70…
At 80 there is no fucking way…
90, are they crazy? Never!
100? Lulz, go fuck yourself lunatic
OrgunDonor@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I think there is maybe 1 game that I would consider spending 100 for the base game. And that’s because I love the series and it is very much a long term game for me, Street Fighter.
But that would be a very tough sell, it would have to be something really special to part with that much, even though I know I would get 1000s of hours out of it
JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Thats a no from me dawg
hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Fuck you.
sirico@feddit.uk 4 months ago
Ubisoft I’ve just had an idea to win players back
superkret@feddit.org 4 months ago
Just a reminder that you can play AAA titles until you die and never pay more than $15 per game, if you wait for a couple years and a sale.
FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Patient gaming ftw, I was able to get GTAV for free from epic games (only reason to have that stupid app)
frezik@midwest.social 4 months ago
Hell, I got GTA V for free (legally, yes). It was the first GTA game I played, and I think its launch reviews were massively overrated.
I doubt I’ll find a free deal for GTA VI, but I ain’t buying it new.
pycorax@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I still don’t understand the appeal for GTA V either. For a game called Grand Theft Auto, the game sure likes to stop you from committing much crime for quite a large amount of time in game, at least to the point I dropped it at least.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Just a reminder that no one’s forcing you to spend $100 on the game. If enough people refuse to do so the base cost of the game will go down again. Icarus is my most recent for example, I’ve had it on my wish list for almost a year and a half now, because I wasn’t willing to spend $35 on what that game provided. It’s currently on sale on Steam for $9.
God of War 2018 is currently $20 on PSN
I got Elden ring for $30 a few months back despite the fact that it’s still selling full price at 60.
If y’all are patient and wait they stopped making money on the game which means that they lower the cost to try to incentivize people to buy it.
Plus the first year of sale of a game is The Game’s most important release window, because companies generally will use the first year to decide how popular it was. If enough people refuse to buy the game at their original price point it will destroy their sales metric for the first year which will make it harder on the studio to justify to their parent company that it’s worth making another game, which means that they’re more incentivized to lower the base cost of the game within the first year of launch.
The rate of this is significantly slowed down if everyone is just like oh okay I guess it’s $100 now and then buys it anyway, have patience and hold out, especially a game like GTA 6 where they’re going to gain more money off microtransactions then people actually buying the game. Honestly GTA 6 probably should have just been sold as a free to play because they operate like one
TheFriar@lemm.ee 4 months ago
The thing is, universal action like this, even on a fraction of the scale necessary to make a dent, just doesn’t work because people will always bow to capitalism. They’ll kick the dirt and grumble under their breath as they pull out their wallets.
bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
Hot take, a very few games are actually worth the 100$ pricetag. The wrong studios believe their games are worth that much tho. I can see myself buying gta6 for 100 but id probably wait for a good sale lol
plant_based_monero@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I’ll pay 100 dolars for gta vi blindly, but studios dont realize that trust is earned.
echodot@feddit.uk 4 months ago
Well that’s weird because they completely obliterated that trust with the whole GTA online thing.
What happened to all of the expansion content on the single player they promised?
FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Well that’s a ripe take on this. Evidently you don’t know anyone who runs Linux and played GTA V online. Rockstar can fuck right off for what they pulled. Definitely didn’t earn any trust, and Windows users should be wary as well since they did that with no notice and no fucks given to a portion of their paid users.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’ve definitely found games that I thought were worth $100, and they often refuse to even go as high as $70. Probably the only one that I thought was worth $100 and charged that much for it was Street Fighter 6.
bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
Id much rather pay 100$ for an mmo and get all the nonsense battlepasses they do ‘for life’, feels better to ‘own’ it
FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 4 months ago
No game is worth that price point.
bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
I got games i have 1k+ hours in, id pay a hunnid fir that nuch entrmertainment.
Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 4 months ago
Exactly. Even a game like Elden Ring or Baldur’s Gate 3 isn’t worth 100$ and those are really great fucking games.
Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I decided to go all out with Monster Hunter Wilds and got the ultimate digital deluxe or whatever. Does it smart? Yes. But the amount of hours I’ve put into World and Rise would make you blush and yell at me to go touch grass. It’s one of the few things I absolutely will not play Patient Gamer with.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
I’m not paying if its not below $30, why would i pay for $100? GTA 5 is already disappointing i’m pretty sure they chop even more thing up and make most content online only. I’ll continue to be stingy and spend my money on better stuff.
kwozyman@lemmy.world 4 months ago
How is GTA5 disappointing? I remember playing it a couple of years after release and it still is one of the best open world games I ever played. Even now, more than 10 years since I played it, I remember the main characters and even some secondary ones and part of the story (even though I only played it once). If anything, I think the GTA5 model is what all “service” games should be – excellent story and single player campaign and…whatever that online thing is. Frankly, I’ve never touched the online part in GTA5 but I hear it’s quite successful.
Regarding the price, I would personally probably pay a bit more for a really really good game. I don’t think the very good games selling for a premium are the problem, but the unfinished, reskinned and shitty games selling for 60-70. Like, how is Elden Ring released at the same price as Skull and Bones or FIFA <current-year>? Those should be 10-20 bucks, not the good games (assuming GTA6 will keep the quality bar up).
ICastFist@programming.dev 4 months ago
Frankly, I’ve never touched the online part in GTA5 but I hear it’s quite successful.
The microtransactions kept a very steady flow of hundreds of millions of dollars per quarter to Rockstar, so yeah, it’s absurdly successful
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
I’m glad you enjoy it and my opinion of it doesn’t negate your feeling, however i should say i find the middle part of the story to be very bland and the ending is forgettable. We’re also sold on the idea of heist but we only have the grand total of 5, which again, i find it very forgettable and bland.
In fact i still can remember a lot of San Andreas, but i can’t remember much about gta5.
Not a big fan of the idea of spreading the story focus amongst the trio too, i think i’d enjoy more if it’s just focus on Franklin.
The post game is also pretty empty, not much side story to do because they put their effort on online mode.
Overall it’s a pretty mid game to me.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 4 months ago
can’t play online without hacks unfortunately. sad state of affairs. but overall, game wasn’t bad except for the money grab with sharkbucks
Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
This is my ideology as well, not the piracy part but the I refuse to buy a game for more than $30 and that game better have Rock the internet in terms of how amazing it was. For prospective the last game that I purchased for $30 was Elden ring when it went on sale a few months back and the last one prior to that was satisfactory when it launched on epic games
ChojinDSL@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
Playing lots of RPGs and Jrpgs has trained my Patience. I never buy a game at full price, regardless of how much I want it. I simply wait for a sale until it’s below 35 euro.
SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Why do they always say developers instead of publishers?
Famko@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Because they want you to complain about the developers and not their corporate overlords.
dinckelman@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It might inspire me to continue not wasting my money, and buying everything on sale, if it’s worth it at all
mrfriki@lemmy.world 4 months ago
They can price them at €200 for all I care. I’ll only will buy them when they are at €20 anyway.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’ll inspire me to never buy it…until of course it goes on sale for $20 a year later.
ByteJunk@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This is the way.
I always wait for the prices to drop before buying any game, and never ever pre-buy them. The only exception is early access from indie devs, I’ll help them along if they show promise.
My jolly roger has been stuffed in a trunk somewhere for years, but looks like it might be coming out…
jonne@infosec.pub 4 months ago
Nowadays it takes like a year or 2 for devs to fix all the bugs anyway. People who buy on day one or pre-order are suckers.
aggelalex@lemmy.world 4 months ago
AAA games can go suck my cock and balls
darthsid@lemmy.world 4 months ago
What? Don’t you want to make it your second job? The live service game experience? /s
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one [bot] 4 months ago
Im not spening $100 on a fucking video game. I dont care what game ,i don’t care what edition.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
This just in: rich people want to get richer by charging more for the same product.
CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Heck make them $250, i’m not buying them even at $70.
If a game is over $30 it needs to be damn good to get me to buy it.
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
I think the last two games I bought at some high premium launch price were GTAV and Cyberpunk 2077.
That second one still stings. I played it longer than I should’ve probably because of the price, and I’ve not bothered with the DLC, even though people said it fixed the game. The price just ledt a bad taste in my mouth.
wesley@yall.theatl.social 4 months ago
For $15 you can have endless hours or fun with Balatro
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I wish I could, but it’s just not for me.
pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
It wasn’t for me either at first but I gave it another shot and it got its hook into me.
What helped me was looking up a scoring/basic strategy guide that helped me figure out what super rookie mistakes I was making - this gave me a better eye for strategy when I was playing, which in turn translated to me enjoying the deck building aspect (which is a mechanic I know I enjoy).
The game is good, and really great to pick up and put down in busts if you don’t have a lot of time.
Hope you end up liking it eventually! I LOVE poker of all types, rogue likes, and deck builders so I thought this was a smash hit when I heard about it, but yeah, took a while to love it.
frezik@midwest.social 4 months ago
For $100, it better have a strip club achievement that comes with a coupon for an actual lap dance.
fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
AAA developers will inspire me to not buy their shit.
Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 4 months ago
Lol, I’ll just wait until it’s on sale for 5 bucks. I’m patient enough.
shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
If they do it, it would unfortunately still sell like hotcakes, being one of the most anticipated games of the past decade.
MITM0@lemmy.world 4 months ago
GTA players are genuinely dumbasses & just insane (but then so are most gamers)
intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 months ago
GTA players haven’t spent any money since 2013
Professorozone@lemmy.world 4 months ago
People pay $1200 for an iPhone. I’m sure they’ll pay the $100 for a game. How? I’m not sure but they always seem to.
Personally, I don’t but I am never the trend setter.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
They offer payment plans for a cell phones I’m waiting for the day that they start offering payment plans to purchase video games. They’ve already trialled with it with the hardware with the Xbox Series X launch with their all access pass, which don’t get me wrong was a great deal but, eventually we are going to hit the point where the everyday person if they want to buy a video game is going to have to do one of those by now pay later plans through like affirm or something, which is a scary thought. As is if it gets much higher than $100 it will qualify for paypals 6-month equal financing deal if you have their credit card, if this change had been just 6 months prior it would have already been qualified for it because they just recently raised their minimum so I think it’s like $120 or $140
HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 4 months ago
That’s why I pirste first and pay later when it’s on sale for $20
designated_fridge@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Remember when Apple released the $1000 phone and it was a big thing?
Eventually this will be the normal.
normanwall@lemmy.world 4 months ago
[deleted]TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Why pirate shitty AAA games when you can spend your time getting a better experience by supporting indie devs financially and in word of mouth?
7112@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Game budgets are crazy. In order to get the profits shareholders want they’ll charge as much as they can get away with.
Indies are actually performing well, so we might see a shift like we saw with film in the 90s.
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
It’s surprising that games are getting cheaper compared to the cost of living. If you take into consideration the fact that games are becoming more expensive to produce, I really don’t understand it.
Gaming is way cheaper for me than it was during the ps2 or ps3 era.
Ashtear@lemm.ee 4 months ago
We still have a ways to go before reaching the inflation-adjusted, $150-per-game peak of mass market games in the 1990’s. A key difference is games back then had way higher marginal cost (it’s near zero now).
The interesting thing is that the market is becoming a lot more like it was back then, full of people that only buy one or two games a year and only play those. Of course now, the model is retaining players with DLC and MTX, whereas in 1995 it was more because people could only afford one or two games a year.
LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com 6 days ago
ROFL I never buy AAA games unless they are on sale, as they often come out broken and in need of patches…Any AAA games studio that hope for this are on a no-buy list by default. This is their way of saying they don’t want money for already mediocre offerings, they can have less sales as a result of being bitten by the greed goblin. I hope it hurts the bonuses of all those sleazy CEOs.