There’s a significant amount of rape in the BIble. And a lot of it is condoned.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say sex slavery is a bad thing. But it sure does like talking about how all of those divine kings had concubines.
Thought-provoking
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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Dalvoron@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Or maybe that’s not a sin 😏
Sabata11792@ani.social 3 weeks ago
It would be disrespectful to stop at this point.
peopleproblems@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Now I get why the incels are excited with the ultraconservative agenda.
They say “biblical values” and incels hear “free rape.”
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
“blasting rope” the synonyms for masterbation continues to grow longer
Ifera@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is the internet, you can say masturbation, you know.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Is that pre or post Jesus bible?
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is a thing Christians do all the time. “Well that was before Jesus.” Jesus never condemned rape or slavery (in fact, he told slaves to obey their masters). Jesus had four whole gospels to tell people to not rape and he didn’t. He also didn’t say anything negative about Solomon and his 300 concubines. In fact, he praises Solomon multiple times and says nothing about the sex slaves whatsoever.
So it doesn’t matter if it’s “post Jesus” because he laid out the rules very concisely and “don’t rape your sex slaves” was not one of them.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Its the post nur clarity…
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
TBH I can imagine people sent him to watch the passion as a result of the aforementioned post lol.
ddplf@szmer.info 3 weeks ago
I’m a Christian myself, but I swear - zealous or ostentatious Christians are some of the meanest, nasties and most awful people I know.
Coming from deeply catholic region, I know lots of such people. They will judge you for not being like them, they will absolutely try to convert you, and they are definitely the most hateful and straight out ignorant people I ever met.
I don’t blame the religion though, because these people are obviously not following Jesus, but rather the spiteful catholic church.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
“There’s no hate like christian love.”
How do you reconcile being a good person, with respecting other people’s beliefs, and not trying to convert people?
By your own system of belief, your inaction allows evil to reign.
I absolutely do blame religion for some the worst behaviours exhibited by believers, as it puts them in an impossible position.
If a genuine believer loves a non-believer, how can they be a good person within their own world view, if they do not try to save them?
But if they do try to save them, they will fail to be good person in the world view of the person they are trying to save.
You can’t do both, and as far as I can tell, most religions work this way.
To treat people with real respect believers universally have to engage in some of the most precarious double-think I can imagine.
It isn’t fair to anyone that you have to “suspend your disbelief” for reality the way we do for fiction, just to come across as a reasonable person.
hydration9806@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I might be able to help here! Trying to save/convert someone can look a lot of different ways, but what almost never works is aggressively pursuing someone. The best way is to live by example and just engage in theological conversations when they come up, not by pushing but mainly by being curious and asking questions.
With this method it is quite easy to have friends from different belief systems. Everyone is on their own journey and sometimes it takes a lifetime, but being pushy is never a good option.
inv3r510n@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
How do you reconcile being a good person, with respecting other people’s beliefs, and not trying to convert people?
Proselytization is against Judaism. Someone who follows Judaism properly would be meeting all of those points.
That’s not to say all Jews are following Judaism properly. glares at israel in contempt
Backlog3231@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
no true scottsman
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
How so? Jesus has a number of very specific teachings, foremost among them being to love your neighbor as yourself. Calling people out for calling themselves Christians while obviously ignoring the central tenet of his message is no different than calling out someone who calls themself a vegan while obviously eating a bucket of KFC.
The No True Scotsman fallacy is when you declare a label (Scotsman) to be conditional on some unrelated factor (putting sugar in porridge) instead of the actual condition (being from Scotland).
Following the tenets of Jesus is the definitive condition of being a “Christian”. Going to a church every week and singing the songs doesn’t make you a Christian any more than going to the farmer’s market and chanting in protests makes you a vegan. It doesn’t matter what you call yourself if you don’t do the thing you’re singing about.
mehdi_benadel@lemmy.balamb.fr 3 weeks ago
That’s religious people for ya. I know how it seems like a good foundation for morale and philosophy to believers, but really there’s a point where you need to stop believing in Santa Claus and build morale on your own.
It might help you realize how many “sins” are meant to control you and how many other accepted or ignored toxic traits should be condemned.
ddplf@szmer.info 3 weeks ago
Very much true, for the most part the religion is used as an utility to control and exploit masses.
The ruleset is very vague in itself and varies from religion to religion. To me, it’s all about being true to yourself. If you truly believe that you’re doing the right thing, you probably are. But that’s probably a massive simplification.
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Mind if I ask what denomination? I found the Episcopal church and it genuinely helped me feel like a Christian again. As a gay man (who also posts porn sometimes!), and growing up Baptist, I never felt like I couldn’t be a follower of Jesus, but I also never felt like I could be part of a community of followers of Jesus, and the Episcopal church helped me find that community again for the first time since childhood.
ddplf@szmer.info 3 weeks ago
I’m talking particularly about the catholic church, but that is still the case for all the more conservative denominations and sects, like Fundamentalists or Jehova followers.
I myself am an independent Christian, but my wife is catholic and sometimes I have to go to the church with her. The things the priests say during the masses are just horrid, even in the more secular areas.
It’s unbelievable to me that these scum made people believe that their corporation is the only true middleman between the people and the God.
OpenStars@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
And Protestant. And Mormon. And Muslim. And Buddhist. All religions are capable of that.
And capitalists, who beg for government handouts. And communists, who want strong control by a very unequal authority figure. Every belief system really - anyone who says "not like *that*", who doesn't even see the contradiction.
Like "Doctor" Oz - anyone can turn their back on the precepts they claim to have supported.
samus12345@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Oh noooo, he suffered a few days and then got to hang out with his dad in heaven for eternity and be worshipped by billions of people. What a sacrifice!
DesolateMood@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Idk man I don’t think I would be okay with being nailed to a cross even if i knew it meant living in heaven for eternity
Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It happened to a huge amount of people. The Romans crucified so many people, it was so common place, that they didn’t even bother to write down how they did it. All I’m saying is, it wasn’t a unique form of suffering that was particularly difficult to Jesus vs thousands of other people in history. If the difficulty of the death was the measure, he didn’t go that far out of his way.
samus12345@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Fair enough, but I also don’t think that we should consider a few days of suffering for an eternity of basically being god much of a sacrifice.
Supernova1051@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
there’s billions of ways others have died a worse death - I’ll take a crucifixion knowing I’ll get eternal life in heaven any day of the week.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My take: death was preferable to living in the world his dad controled.
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“You’re not a God, you’re just a jerk!”
paddirn@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Jesus died so we could have bread. He is risen!
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I would thank Jesus for bread, but didn’t we have the stuff figured out quite a while before he showed up?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
y’all need a good cook named Jesus in your lives. you get to thank Jesus personally and also swap baking tips.
Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
well the bread they were eating was most likely a flatbread that did not have any yeast. Someone who has a better idea of the history please come in and prove me wrong.
tryagain@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
“Take this and eat it” works in either context.
Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Lot would be so proud he’d throw you a daughter🥲
ICastFist@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Throwing your daughter out to save your traveling guest’s ass from being raped is also an option.
^Judges^ ^19^ ^for^ ^the^ ^curious^
Agent641@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Maybe two!
Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Jesus died so the bread could rise. blessed be the yeast.
peto@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
He died so you can sin. Would be a waste of a good blood sacrifice to live a pure life if your god is just handing out grace.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It is a waste, good loves the smell of a burnt offering more, and they chucked him down a hole instead
bunchberry@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not surprising as much of online conservatism these days is just gooning. They’re all porn addicts who cry about the wokes taking away their softcore porn from their video games.
glitchdx@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
meanwhile I’m looking for better porn in real videogames. So far, nothing beats skyrim. Games that advertise having porn are shit video games, and most video games have terrible excuses for porn. Why can’t the two come together?
HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Try the Flip Witch: The Forbidden Sex Hex
Wogi@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Coming together is a rare and beautiful thing
Remotedeck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
The christian tradwife fetish is just about a free use full time submissive with a twee aesthetic, so I’m not that surprised
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Go peruse the old testament and realize ypu would get demonitized for reading it aloud on youtube.
Pervertus inceptus romanus
dwindling7373@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
How selfish is it to be happy somebody saw no other option but to suicide to save everybody else?
Jhon jumped on the granade and saved all of us, but we should not cry for him, we should be happy because his sacrifice meant we all survived!
The most basic shit fly off the window when it comes to Jesus.
SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Sir this is a Wendy’s
TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes, that’s what jesus died for.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This and blasting rope to waluigi hentai.
Wogi@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
One where he uses his feet to crush watermelons, specifically
cakey@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Not a christian ( or religious person ) but there is a whole lot of r/atheism in this thread holy fuck
SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
There is. Imagine going crazy and serious on a shitposting sub.
cakey@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
The fact that I got downvoted over this is showing me that the lemmy that I once knew before the exodus is not here anymore.
Really a shame
Hikermick@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They probably responded by saying Christians aren’t perfect just forgiven
SpiceDealer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I wonder what happen if I hacked any preacher or pastor’s phone and/or PC?
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
duality of man
Obnomus@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Wtf
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t understand why people are making it such a big deal. Jesus died, yes, but he has risen from the dead after a few days. So basically he only died for a weekend, for the human race. “Oh what a brave man! He gave up his weekend!” There are other people who did much more for the human race, like Fritz Haber for example. Also, necromancy isn’t allowed according to the bible, so zombie Jesus broke the rules.
Backlog3231@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
Your dad sent you here to suffer and die? Big deal that’s what the rest of us are doing.
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Hahaha and his dad didn’t even beat him or told him he’s a disappointment
rtxn@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Even living Jesus broke the rules. According to the
fanficgospel of John, Lazarus was dead for four days before Jesus resurrected him. It’s where the line “Jesus wept” comes from.LordWiggle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The entire bible if filled with contradicting stories, with incest, child abuse and murder. Nice book as reference for a better life 👌
tryagain@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
“fanfic” absolutely sent me. That’s exactly what it is. Stealing!
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If any gospel is least fanfic it’s John. The Synoptics are older
TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I mean… Haber isn’t exactly a giant of morality and ethics. He did invent most of the chemical weapons utilized in WW1, and expressly defended their use as weapons.
phobiac@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
He tried to kill people and ended up helping feed the world, then he tried to feed people and ended up helping the Holocaust. The guy is a fascinating historical figure but definitely a was a monster.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Jesus wasn’t a zombie, Jesus was a lich.
Sonor@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m kinda bummed out about necromancy though :/
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah me too, my favorite hobby but instead I’m only allowed to indoctrinate kids.
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Fritz Haber… For the Haber-Bosch process or chemical weapons?
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
During WW1 he killed millions by developing chlorine gas, among other poisoness gasses, but he saves billions by discovering how to synthesize fertilizer.
HelluvaKick@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Dead Friday night and alive by sunrise Sunday morning. 18 hours dead at most.
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t know how long days are where you live, but dead Friday night and alive on Sunday morning means he was dead the entire Saturday, which over here means he has been dead for at least 24h plus the hours on Friday night and Sunday morning. Still kinda lame, dead for a few hours for the entire human race, both in the past and future. Is that all it takes?
inv3r510n@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Capitalists be like “Jesus gave up his weekend, you can too!”