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  • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sometimes slightly worse. Like LibreOffice.

    Sometimes actually better, like VLC.

    Sometimes about the same, like the latest version of MuseScore (older versions were, in fact, quite a bit worse).

    But sometimes, like with older versions of GIMP (I’ll admit, I’ve not tried its latest major version release candidate) it’s significantly worse.

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    • ininewcrow@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Libreoffice is slightly worse because all the proprietary office suites keep lowering the bar for everyone to follow them. It’s not a quality issue, it’s a never ending contest to figure out how to complicate writing a simple letter so that everyone has to buy only your software.

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      • Baku@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I actually find MS Word really clunky, laggy, buggy, and generally intuitive. LO I only find to be clunky

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    • tyler@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      LibreOffice is more than slightly worse, but FOSS projects cover the gamut. The thing about them is that the best ones are usually laser focused on exactly what the user needs, rather than what makes the most money.

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      • Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Calc was actually quite comparable for 90% of Excel features I have ever actually used.

        Writer is petty good on its own, but the fact that .docx documents don’t quite matchup vs. When making and opening with Word makes it difficult for me to use officially.

        Impress is just plain disappointing compared to PowerPoint.

        Base might be okay, better than nothing I guess.

        The rest of the suite I don’t know.

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    • Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I genuinely doesn’t know there’s paid media player out there, VLC came preinstall on all my prebuild PC purchase since forever.

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      • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There definitely exist paid players out there (or at least used to…dunno if they still exist), but there are also “free” (as in beer) non-free (as in speech) options, like the ones included out of the box in a Windows or macOS installation.

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    • thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      PSA: Inkscape is good now!

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    • Wooki@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      365 is far worse IMO. New web only apps (replacing all the desktop apps) are a big step backwards. LibreOffice does everything needed natively and a lot more.

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      • bufalo1973@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s the return of the network computer of the 9xs. But worse.

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    • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For LibreOffice, I’d go with, worse and better at the same time.

      • I have just noticed, overtime, that it has some problems in some cases, where MS Office does better, while there are certain cases where it does better.

      There are 2 major pain points though:

      1. Calc UI stutters when using the scrollbar with mouse click and drag.
      2. Adding images to files makes the whole thing way slower than acceptable.
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    • suzune@ani.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you like professional photography, you can try darktables. It’s a replacement for Lightroom and it’s great in my opinion.

      Gimp is still useful for quick and simple edits. It’s a bit weird to use though.

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      • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Gimp is still useful for quick and simple edits

        See, the problem with that is that that’s precisely not how I use Photoshop. I don’t use it often (certainly not often enough to actually pay for it), but when I do, I tend to go fairly deep.

        I should try out Darktable though. I used to use Aperture until it was discontinued, and these days I frequently use Lightroom, though I don’t really love it.

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      • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        IMO Krita is better than GIMP for the quick simple edits.

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    • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I wonder how many paid apps were utterly decimated after they released VLC

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    • vonbaronhans@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Krita isn’t that much worse than Photoshop/CSP for digital illustration. That said, going back to CSP after a year was such a relief I didn’t know I needed. So many little stumbling blocks removed.

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    • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      To quote a non-computer savvy friend from a few years ago. When he was talking to someone else, I just over heard the conversation.

      Na, I use VLC player. It always works, it will play a slice of cucumber.

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  • lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And if it’s so good, why haven’t they released an Open Source 2?

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    • embed_me@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We got gpl3

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      • far_university190@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        if gplv3 so good, why there no gplv4??

        checkmate

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    • PlexSheep@infosec.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you like open source THAT much, why don’t you marry it??

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      • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Fork me, baby 🫦

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    • Trail@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Because it’s so good that a v2 is not needed.

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    • jimmy90@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      👏

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    • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      All those Silicon Valley brogrammers would have “OpS2 evangelist” in their bio.

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  • mayhair@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    OK who changed the wojak into a beautiful woman? Image

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    • TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      wojak is a beautiful woman

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      • P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yay

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    • AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It was on Lemmy World’s All[0] less than 10 days ago.

      [0] lemmy.world/post/21902350

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      • mayhair@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah, that’s where I pulled it from.

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    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That art style is pretty off-putting tbh.

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      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The naked woman is kinda odd too

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  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Slightly worse? I can actually sort and the video player actually works, instead of whatever the FUCK was going on with the other place, for literally ever.

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  • Artyom@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    All-Star team

    You’ve never worked on software in a big company have you?

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    • n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I can only speak for myself, but I used to love to get home from work and contribute to free software projects I found interesting. Since I got a good paying job at a big company, the last thing I want to do is more of the same when I get home. (having kids around the same time probably had an influence too).

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    • Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There are definitely a lot of brilliant engineers working at companies like Microsoft, Google, and Apple, they just get hamstrung by management.

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    • P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s the point

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  • mumblerfish@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Slightly worse”. I got a job and was not allowed to use a linux laptop, so I went with mac. I was almost worried that I would like the “just works” aspects everyone have been so exited about. Wow. What a piece of shit it is. Settings items takes forever to load after boot, mouse feels like it is stuck in mud (even if I remove accelleration and increase speed), it cannot wake many monitors up from sleep, it completely disables the keyboard momentarily when activating the screen (and if it fails to wake it, it becomes a flashing, keyboard grabbing nightmare). The window management? I can set up a workspace on this and that keybind, “oh, you disconnected the monitor, well we permuted the keybinds for you” wtf? When I get home and switch to linux, it is such a relief.

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    • babybus@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Lol, since the last major update I can’t type a tilde or a backtick, presumably because it doesn’t recognize my keyboard type?? And I had to install another program that prevent Apple Music from opening each time I connect/disconnect bluetooth headphones?? Or to add weeknumbers to the calendar widget.

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      • mumblerfish@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I had that from the start… It cannot distinguish some keyboards, and I have two versions of my layout I have to switch between. All keybords work the same on linux, but mac, nah.

        And updates? Holy shit! They broke ssh! It was broken like a month. Ssh connections just died as ‘corrupted’ all the time. And they don’t hotfix it asap? How can a company trust to use them as a work laptop if they break it and don’t fix it?

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      • RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        presumably because it doesn’t recognize my keyboard type??

        The answer by Apple (and their parroting fanbois): You don’t actually need those keys. It’s confusing for users to have too many characters.

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    • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I got a job and was not allowed to use a linux laptop, so I went with mac.

      Same. 2015. I could have pushed them to let me use Linux, but it would have been making waves in a remote shop. The 2015 MacBook hardware was decent, so I got it. Domain binding was still in fashion. 99 problems. Finally, I got it okay-ish, set up Brew, it’s a hack. I started trying to use the terminal to do things, almost no config available, the disk mount subsystem was alien, the logs were crap. Since then, the hardware and compatibility has just gotten awful.

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  • lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve been thinking about this often lately as well. These fucking corporations with multiple billions at their disposal, and all they can produce is shit like Windows or macOS? AND it also costs money to use? AND it has ads in it?

    Meanwhile a bunch of nerds working for free on a passion project are giving away software that is faster and easier to use and often more beautiful to look at.

    I guess I’ve simply reiterated what the post image said, so ignore me maybe, but fuck this is depressing and disappointing. All these corporate resources and all they can do is barely achieve what other people do for free in their spare time? What a fucking waste of human life and energy is capitalism.

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    • dharmacurious@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Honestly, it’s such a compelling point to made for why capitalism is a shit economic system. Regardless of if someone is compelled by communist/anarchist economics, at the very least it should be obvious that capitalism produces only the most profitable products, not the best products.

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    • Takumidesh@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For real open source projects, it’s a lot of the time not nerds working for free.

      All your favorite frameworks and libraries are often developed in house at big companies (angular, react, vue, tensorflow, Kafka, pytorch, k8s, Jenkins, and many many more).

      And even then, much of the development on them is done by people who are getting paid to use the frameworks at smaller companies.

      There are tons of examples the other way too of course, but even the Linux kernel is mostly corporate commits, Google, Huawei, Oracle, and others.

      This isn’t inherently bad, but it’s not as cut and dry as people make it out to be.

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      • Zink@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That seems like the system working as intended. Once enough work has gone into open source projects, even the profit-driven entities see they will make more money by improving those open source projects instead of following their default plan of reinventing the wheel and keeping it proprietary and locked down.

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    • abfarid@startrek.website ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Technically, MacOS doesn’t cost money to use and has no ads.

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      • fleg@szmer.info ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You need to buy an Apple-branded computer to use it (at least legally). It’s price is just included in the device you buy.

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    • octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve been thinking about this often lately as well. These fucking corporations with multiple billions at their disposal, and all they can produce is shit like Windows or macOS? AND it also costs money to use? AND it has ads in it?

      Not only do I agree with you, I also want to point out the telemetry whackamole for those who care. (And those who don’t care aren’t going to bother with the whackamole, but their privacy is being violated just the same as those who do care.)

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  • dharmacurious@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If we’re talking Lemmy and Lemmy clients, I’d argue it’s a helluva lot better. For one, I can rotate my fucking screen

    Hell, the thing that got my to switch was when they got rid of third party apps, because of how absolutely abysmally shitty the official app is

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  • Thcdenton@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The fuck is this stupid ass meme format lol

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    • And009@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      SEX

      Now that I have your attention…

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    • TodaviaTyler@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      My first thought as well

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  • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Slightly worse in design, far better in consumer-friendliness!

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  • Iheartcheese@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Lemmy is Reddit with more furries and communists

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    • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m not a god damn communist Fred! How many times do I have to tell you, I’m an anarchist.

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  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s not, though. It’s a big reason why I’m here, in fact. Boost for Android is awesome!

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    • babybus@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Boost went open-source?

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      • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh that’s a good point, I don’t know (or care) if Boost is open source. I was more referring to Lemmy.

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  • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And then you have Blender, Krita, OBS, VLC, bitwarden & Let’s Encrypt.

    But tons of corporate contribution to big open source projects so it is sometimes grey.

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  • MimicJar@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Voyager for Lemmy is some seriously gourmet shit.

    But seriously the answer is usually that the big company is trying to apply to ALL USERS and usually only pleases a subset or none of those users.

    Voyager isn’t for you? That’s fine, Lemmy has a nice API and you can build whatever you like. Lemmy is also open so if that API isn’t nice you can provide suggestions and fixes.

    I’m not saying it’s perfect, but it’s a pretty good place to be.

    Look at early Twitter or formerly Reddit. A nice API. Tons of fantastic clients. Open source is the best, but even just “open” is a fantastic first step.

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  • naught101@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Only until enshittification kicks in

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  • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    the problem is that in the vast majority of cases, designers aren’t involved. it’s just code monkeys trying their best to implement functionality but without UI/UX design they are barely usable by the average person. I guess just by its nature open source is less of a concept in design so you don’t get many volunteers. also designers are probably more averse to doing work for free since every goddamn costumer tries to get them to work for free.

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  • lemmus@szmer.info ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thats the point. People should realize that just because someone is doing some software as a hobby doesn’t mean he doesn’t need to earn money. YOU PEOPLE, IF YOU USE GREAT SOFTWARE PAY FOR IT PLEASE. Don’t let great FOSS software die out, and donate. Just give those 20$, its not much for you (some shitty chineese gadgets), and its so much for devs if everyone do that. Wherever you want to buy some chineese gadget, donate it to actually great software instead of chineese scammer please.

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  • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cause one was created to make money, while the other was created to actually be used…

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  • spirinolas@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But when the open source app becomes the best one, it becomes impossible to beat it. Look VLC for example.

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  • dan@upvote.au ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sometimes the open source equivalent is better. SmartTube is a much better app than the official YouTube app for Google TV / Android TV even though there’s just one developer working on it.

    Similarly, pirate TV/movie apps often have a much better user experience than the legit ones. Compare Weyd, Syncler, or Stremio+Torrentio to the Amazon Prime video app for example.

    In both cases, the people who work on them usually care about the user experience and use the app day-to-day themselves, rather than being told to do whatever makes the most money for the company.

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  • Sunshine@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Organic Maps is the upgrade over Google Maps.

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  • vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And it’s actually not slightly worse but better.

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  • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That sounds like exploitation of free labor with extra steps and a vegan coat.

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  • islands@lemmy.cafe ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well, for one Lemmy has zero respect for privacy. You can’t even delete a comment. A comment is eternal. At least you can do that on reddit.

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  • Littux@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Reddit experience: 3 ads for reading 5 comments

    And now, Reddit is down (HTTP ERROR 500)

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  • Emi@ani.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It might not be as polished and pretty but I prefer the simplicity and focus on just doing the thing it was made to do. Medilog is perfect example for this I’d say, it basically just storing text nothing fancy just regular inputs and calculates BMI. But best is I don’t have to deal with internet connection and having an account cuz it’s all just stored locally and that’s why I love lots of Foss stuff it’s just simple and doesn’t need account and internet access depending what app it is. Still discovering Foss bus so far am very pleased.

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  • Windex007@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Do you have any idea how many jira states our development workflow has?

    I wonder how much appetite there is for project managers and scrum masters in the open source world.

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  • P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They made the RTX version, so now I can see it in 4k, thank you developers!

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  • eatham@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Repost, but the post is good enough so I don’t care

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  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Closed sauce app isn’t always better, and big corp don’t have ‘all stars’ teams (but do have marketing teams) - the question is why the fossy app doesn’t change UI designs every few months (mostly in stupid ways) :D.

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