Windows has been shit waaaaaaaaay longer than any of those. MS always “fixes” it afterwards just enough to become usable
Enshittification only hurts product itself, not users.
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ICastFist@programming.dev 5 months ago
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
To be fair, Windows has huge, maybe even unreasonable, demands placed on it for backward compatibility due to corps not wanting to dump their 30 year old legacy software. And to Microsoft’s credit, they actually manage to do that pretty well while maintaining a reasonably stable OS. Most of the time, anyway.
The increasing interest in using Windows as a conduit for ads and data collection is what they really chafes me and is the primary reason I’m slowly moving away from Windows.
Valmond@lemmy.world 5 months ago
And here I am with older games crashing all the time on newer windows.
reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Exactly that. 7 was fine. I got used to 10 with tweaks. 11 will never touch any device I own. Fuck everything they’ve done to Windows in recent years.
ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
Windows was shitty after the superior WinXP. I’d argue 98 was all I needed but XP was when disk scanning/defragmenting was baked in.
yonder@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Windows 10 will be the last version of windows
Introducing Windows 11
Liars.
KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 5 months ago
Winbloats was arguably the first one of this list to get enshitiffied. I remember being a 12 yo trying to find an alternative to winbugs because the microsoft account login was required. It’s got worse since then
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
Yeah its the original example of enshittification for sure
frezik@midwest.social 5 months ago
I’ve been here since Windows 3.0. I’m not sure when this mythical not-shit Windows was. There were a few I could live with, but none that were good.
IAmNotACat@lemmy.world 5 months ago
But Windows is unique in that it can fit a whole lot of shit in it. Way more than one could imagine.
Minecraft, Chrome etc are a 7 litre compost caddy of shit. Windows is a vast open country waiting to be turned into landfill of human waste.
ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
if you can manage to get the IOT LTSC windows 11, it has a ton of that stuff removed by default. it makes it much faster and saves drive space.
reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
The Win 10 IOT LTSC version does the same but better.
For those who don’t want 11 anyway.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 months ago
And it was bad long before then.
Juice@midwest.social 5 months ago
Oh enshittification is coming for Windows. In the future. Like it hasn’t happened yet or wasn’t the first and worst of these companies for it to come for. But something that hasn’t happened yet, not in the past. Interesting.
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Windows was good until Vista … then it seemed every second version was a pile of shit (7 good, 8 crap, 10 ok, 11 ugh).
Voltage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I personally like 11 more than 10, mostly because its same as 10 but with better UI. 10 was very bland.
Technofrood@feddit.uk 5 months ago
When did Minecraft get Enshittified?
wander1236@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Bedrock is pretty full of microtransactions, upsells, and ads, and the Mojang to Microsoft account migration for Java made a lot of people lose their accounts entirely.
But the core gameplay of both editions is still fine, and Java is consistently getting more mod-friendly with each release. You also don’t actually have to buy anything in Bedrock; it’s mostly just annoying.
I don’t really agree that Minecraft is getting enshittified, but I can see why others might.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 5 months ago
And the whole chat censoring thing, and Microsoft doubling down on banning players on all servers for chat content in their own private servers.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 5 months ago
bedrock was shit version from start, any respectable Minecraft player uses Java version.
bruhduh@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Holup, they still continuing java version support?
CodingCarpenter@lemm.ee 5 months ago
You can avoid the transactions, but they really lure the kids in. I have to constantly tell my kid I’m not paying for that crap it’s exhausting
clif@lemmy.world 5 months ago
and the Mojang to Microsoft account migration for Java made a lot of people lose their accounts entirely.
Hey, it’s me. I contacted support and got a list of info they needed to fix it. I responded with that info and got a reply from a different person with a list of info they needed to fix it. I responded with that info and got a reply from a different person with a list of info they needed to fix it.
Then I said said “fuck this shit” and gave up to never play again.
random_character_a@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Windows was enshittified decades before it was even a concept. Grandaddy of enshittification.
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
when bedrock edition was introduced, I’d say
the marketplace, character creator and partnered servers all have very predatory monetization
thankfully java resisted enshittification for the most part
nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 5 months ago
When they forced you to have a Microsoft account, which inturn made me loose my Minecraft account.
officermike@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Can’t speak for OP, but I took a maybe ten-year hiatus from Minecraft and came back to find the were so baby more block types that it clogged my inventory and I felt overwhelmed and just stopped playing again.
trespasser69@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Micro$oft made some controversies on Minecraft (Minecraft owned by M$)
4am@lemm.ee 5 months ago
NEFTLIX
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’m going to pretend using an enshitified version of this meme template was an intentional choice
Jocker@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
You missed YouTube
user1234@lemmynsfw.com 5 months ago
Windows was the enshittification of DOS.
lengau@midwest.social 5 months ago
Windows was an improvement over DOS. NT was the enshittification of OS/2
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Lol, this is hilarious. Thanks, Lemmy. It makes me feel better to know I’m not this far echo chambered. Good luck.
octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
I had the same reaction. Enshittification came for Windows more than a decade ago, WTH are they thinking with this meme?
HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Netflix happened before Reddit. Also, one could add Facebook and Amazon
Valmond@lemmy.world 5 months ago
And google (the search engine)
AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 5 months ago
Tantacrul made an HBomb-length video about Facebook recently. Def worth a watch.
AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 5 months ago
Wait, what happened to Minecraft? You’re just talking about the Bedrock edition, right?
…right?
Donkter@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I think it’s bedrock edition and the many cash grab spinoffs. Afaik og Minecraft is only better than it ever was.
renzev@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yeah that’s my experience so far. The only things Microsoft has managed to ruin so far when it comes to Java edition is the launcher. Luckily there are many great FOSS launchers out there (Prism is my favorite). Everything else is working just fine, and the gameplay updates from the last couple of years have been good.
RangerJosie@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I just bought a brand new thumb drive so I can install Linux.
Agent641@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Why didn’t you just build your own thumb drive out of parts? It just takes a bit of soldering and W steady hand.
GladiusB@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I suggest unbuntu or mint for your first. To get acclimated. Arch and others are cool, but they are intense. I run mint and I can play 99 percent of my old games on it through steam.
RangerJosie@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I went with Mint. Cinnamon edition. Get my feet wet with this. Slip deeper into the pool later maybe.
Ibaudia@lemmy.world 5 months ago
For those wondering about what specifically happened with each:
Minecraft - microtransactions on Bedrock edition
Reddit - API changes killing 3rd party apps and streamlining ad delivery
Netflix - Pricing and library changes making it less and less of a good deal
Chrome - Manifest V3 killing uBlock Origin and similar content blockers
Windows - Increasing numbers of ads baked into the system, poorly-made features like Recall, and lack of hardware compatibility with the TPM 2.0 requirement
CafecitoHippo@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Thanks. I was legitimately confused by Minecraft because I never saw anything negative added to Java edition but I’ve never played Bedrock. Minecraft keeps pumping out free content updates so they seem like a good example of what to do for a company.
SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Additional stuff:
Reddit - becoming more and more like a typical social media website with profile customizations and instant messaging.
Netflix - ads and now only limited to one household.
Chrome - might be the bloatiest of all chromium based browsersStrawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
bedrock isn’t real
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Buddy this meme is put in reverse.
Netflix THEN Chrome THEN Windows???
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I don’t play games often anymore, but what happened to Minecraft, I thought it was a cheap kids game that just grew into a lot of people playing it. Did they somehow put ads or subscriptions to it?
CodingCarpenter@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Subs if you want a server or mods of any kind on bedrock edition which is the only cross platform. Java is still good
abfarid@startrek.website 5 months ago
People mostly mean the Bedrock Edition for its microtransactions and lack of proper mod support. Otherwise, it’s the same game and you can ignore that stuff.
mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
What? Windows has sucked for like 20 years
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 5 months ago
This would be true if it wasn’t for the blood trails. All these companies are thriving despite the enshitification; perhaps they’re thriving because of it.
ghostface@lemmy.world 5 months ago
When did this happen to Neftlix?
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Cracking down on account sharing was the start, then the massive price increases.
In the last couple of months it has gone from the most reliable one I use to having trouble changing profiles and it hanging while atarting a movie every couple of days. Now they are removing their own interactive content and tried to branch out into gaming, but then fired the whole studio. All of these things are due to trying to chase expansion instead of just being a high quality movie and series streaming service.
marcos@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Oh, no.
Cancelling any series that doesn’t stay on the top10 on the first week was the start. Or was it removing their own old series from the catalog? Well, I can’t really tell when it started either.
rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Windoze must die! Long live DOS!
~ War cry of the ancient geek
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 5 months ago
Well, you know, that is an option…
rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I do, actually!
I love FreeDOS and occasionally use it, and not just for vidya.
notTheCat@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
I kinda feel like people don’t really care, I mean the ones who care are here and they left these products behind, but we’re really a small fraction that barely counts, most just use these stuff, they just don’t overthink it.
ceenote@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Shocked this thread is an hour old with no mention of Linux. Whoopsie.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The Linux is implied.
JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Linux isn’t enshittified, what do you mean?
ceenote@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I expected someone to be evangelizing for Linux as an alternative to enshittified Windows.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 months ago
TBH move reddit to the front of Netflix and Chrome and Windows behind Minecraft then its good.
JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 5 months ago
oyenyaaow@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
LJ, digg, del.ico.us, Plants vs Zombies…
HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 5 months ago
He’ll never take Windows. Never!
lugal@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
I mean there are levels and challenges and adds of up to 30 seconds on solitaire, a game that’s idea is to play casually in between. And minesweeper isn’t pre installed anymore, you have to download it in the shop and I can’t do that on my work laptop (and I obviously don’t use windows privately)
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Windows should be first, Reddit second, Minecraft third, chrome fourth.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
everyone say goodbye to the wonderful decadess of lean, efficient, bloat-free Microsoft software we have known and loved up until 2024!
majestictechie@lemmy.fosshost.com 5 months ago
Windows 7 was the last good Windows. It was a nice polished OS that had the last decent search feature. 8 was a mess (it started without a start button) and then all the bloat/ads that came with 10 and above
9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Windows XP was the last good Windows. It had zero bloat, and heck, it encouraged you to use an admin account as your daily account. It didn’t have those pesky UAC notifications, and it would allow you to install each individual Windows KB Update. It didn’t have that high RAM usage that the Aero design had. There was no built in firewall until a later service pack, but you could just opt out of that update.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 5 months ago
Someday we will find Windows 9.