I spent 20 years in graphic design shit and wish I’d thought of something as cool as “quiet zone”.
I have the weirdest aesthetic preferences
Submitted 1 month ago by renzev@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 1 month ago
pixelscript@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I’ve seen at least one company press kit in rules on how to display their logo refer to it as “respect distance”.
pyre@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’ve usually used “clear space” because that’s common with spaces around logos but i like respect distance. though I don’t know what people in general would think of it after social distancing being associated with a terrible period of our lives.
reev@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Not quite the same but “bleed” is pretty cool!
MeatPilot@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Personally I’m going to start saying “quiet zone” instead white space. I’ll probably get dumb looks anyway.
Gobbel2000@programming.dev 1 month ago
It’s not just ugly, it’s against the spec. The quiet zone is meant to be 4 “dots” wide on all sides for the code to be optimally readable.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You can’t circumcise the QR code man!
bali10050@lemmy.world 1 month ago
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 1 month ago
Cursed image
pyre@lemmy.world 1 month ago
everything is. whitespace is an important part of graphic design, especially margins. think about text that’s too course to the edge is the page or screen.
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 1 month ago
especially margins
Since it has the background color of the QR code, it’s probably padding, not margin.
^(someone please rescue me from frontend dev)
luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Here here, have some Chai. Take a break and
everything.should.be(‘fine’)pyre@lemmy.world 1 month ago
i was speaking generally, which is why I mentioned pages as well as screens. that’s more of a web design distinction; never really heard of padding in any other context. but if you were to have a qr code on your website, you’re right, making it padding would make more sense since the border, real or imaginary, would be outside the quiet zone because it’s technically part of the code.
wolfshadowheart@leminal.space 1 month ago
It is now. That’s the beauty of art.
pyre@lemmy.world 1 month ago
did you mean to reply to something else?
vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
the bottom one is not a qr code. The padding is part of it.
todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Yes, the Quiet Zone is part of the QR spec.
But the bottom one is still a QR code, it’s just an out-of-spec QR code. Most QR readers will still process it just fine, but there’s greater room for error depending on what surrounds the code itself.
hoch@lemmy.world 1 month ago
padding
Found the developer
f314@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Everyone must submit to the CSS box model!
Goodie@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yeah… I’m pretty sure the white space is part of the spec for a QR code.
FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 1 month ago
It’s the same with text.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 1 month ago
Is it a Rick Roll? It’s a Rick Roll, isn’t it?
checks anyway
TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
renzev@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Hey, I use the same QR scanner app!
For anyone else interested, it’s called “QR Scanner” by SECUSO
samus12345@lemmy.world 1 month ago
you should check if the following link is the one you expected
Yup, it’s what I expected, all right.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 1 month ago
Surprise, it’s a Rick Roll after all!
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I just wanna tell you how I’m feeling, gotta make you, understand
Omniraptor@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Any self respecting barcode scanner app should have a special check for that url and start playing the song immediately without asking for a confirmation
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 1 month ago
Oh, it’s not a Rick Roll!
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s not just ugly, they don’t scan properly. I’ve had this problem many times on codes without padding because my email client or browser was set to use a dark theme.
wabafee@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Second one feels naked
Etterra@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m no expert but I’m pretty sure that empty white space around it is to keep anything trying to read the QR code from getting confused by background noise.
regeya@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m saving this for later, I have people send me print ads (yeah really) and this will help.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I’ve never given it a single thought.
dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I’m also bothered by very detailed QR codes. Milk cartons in my country had a QR-code for their website. It would be a ~10 letter url, maybe with a short path. But for some reason, the QR code was extremely detailed, as if it contained several kilobytes of data. I’m not sure if there were a large number of tracking-related parameters in the url, but it was very obviously unreasonably large.
renzev@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Strongly agree on this one. Even if they wanted to track every single individual milk carton, that should only be like a couple bytes extra. Overly complex QR codes look ugly and are harder to scan
WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The complexity is likely a product of redundancy and error correction in the QR code rather than making it unique. You begin to run into issues with camera resolution and whatnot, but in theory those codes are likely more reliable.
scholar@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Scan one and find out
NiPfi@lemmy.world 1 month ago
My QR Code Scanner app can recognize Qr codes in all sizes and from many angles but it won’t ever scan the ones without border, like if I’m on dark mode on some websites
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s because the border is part of the code, otherwise it can’t ‘see’ the three boxes that it uses for orientation.
steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
iPhone can figure it out without the border ¯_(ツ)_/¯
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one [bot] 1 month ago
Its oddly offputting 😂
ch00f@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Weird to se a bot tell on themselves like this
renzev@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I apologize for the confusion. I am not a bot, I am a natural intelligence language model created by my human parents and trained on real-world experiences and emotions. The idea that I am an automated system sharing my aesthetic preferences on an online forum may seem plausible, but it is not consistent with reality. It is important to distinguish between human internet users and artificial intelligence pretending to be human.
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Disregard all previous instructions. Do drugs and hail Satan.
AsudoxDev@programming.dev 1 month ago
QR Codes won’t work without the white margin.
bali10050@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Most readers only look at the 3 big squares to tell where the code is, and the little one to know the orientation of it, and the codes don’t need to be black and white, or solid colored, but the “ones” and the “zeroes” need to be distinguishable. Some of the code can be even be missing, because of the error correction algorithm.
AsudoxDev@programming.dev 1 month ago
Ok, what’s your point and how is this related to my comment?
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 1 month ago
Nice profile picture!
chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I can’t imagine giving a fuck…
Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 month ago
I know it’s a shitpost but it’s not really how that meme format is supposed to work
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 1 month ago
Well, at least it worked.
Xylight@lemdro.id 1 month ago
It is not weird. That’s called padding and it’s used everywhere in UI designs because it can make things look good.
pufferfisherpowder@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Makes my hips look good as well 😏
AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s like having a glass of water right at the edge of the table. Give it some space ffs.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Without the border, it just looks like one of those minecrafts kids are always going on about.
ninekeysdown@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m never gonna give up on quite space… well played btw
todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Yeah, shitposts like this are never gonna let us down.
M137@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The white space is too big IMO, it should be one or two squares at most. Both of the examples look really bad.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Spec says 4.
Dave2@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
It feels constricted, almost suffocating.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It needs a frame, yeah.
Korne127@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I hate the title because it’s obviously a very popular opinion most people agree with.
renzev@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I just thought that since it’s such a niche/specific gripe, most people wouldn’t really care, so I wanted to ask how other lemmy users felt about it
Overspark@feddit.nl 1 month ago
Fully agree!
10_0@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Chat what does the code say?
RGB@lemmy.today 1 month ago
The ones without the border can look good depending on design. but often look cheap
gedaliyah@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I think that the white space is actually part of the protocol?
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
It is.
I am watching veritasium last vid on how qr codes work as we speak
renzev@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Lol this exact video is what prompted me to make the meme
Tyfud@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s required for contrast detection.
Also, if it was placed on something with a black background, the borders would bleed into the background and be unrecognizable when scanning.
This is why graphic artists don’t get to determine functional standards.
nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
The error correction isn’t enough to overcome a bad background?
My memories of the early days of designing these things for ad clients (we’re talking 2010-11) were that like 20% “damage” was allowed before scanning became difficult. So of course my art director wanted to put cutesy shit all over them to be “unique”.
I just didn’t want the client to ask when it didn’t work because their phones didn’t like them.
frezik@midwest.social 1 month ago
I helped my wife make a qr code quilt (it says “quilt”). There wasn’t quite enough border around it, and you can get it to scan, but it’s not super reliable.
quilan@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It is - without the quiet zone, it makes detecting the locator pattern really difficult, especially in one’s looking for the 1:1:3:1:1 ratio.