I spent 20 years in graphic design shit and wish I’d thought of something as cool as “quiet zone”.
I have the weirdest aesthetic preferences
Submitted 7 months ago by renzev@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 7 months ago
pixelscript@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I’ve seen at least one company press kit in rules on how to display their logo refer to it as “respect distance”.
pyre@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’ve usually used “clear space” because that’s common with spaces around logos but i like respect distance. though I don’t know what people in general would think of it after social distancing being associated with a terrible period of our lives.
reev@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Not quite the same but “bleed” is pretty cool!
MeatPilot@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Personally I’m going to start saying “quiet zone” instead white space. I’ll probably get dumb looks anyway.
Gobbel2000@programming.dev 7 months ago
It’s not just ugly, it’s against the spec. The quiet zone is meant to be 4 “dots” wide on all sides for the code to be optimally readable.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You can’t circumcise the QR code man!
bali10050@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 7 months ago
Cursed image
pyre@lemmy.world 7 months ago
everything is. whitespace is an important part of graphic design, especially margins. think about text that’s too course to the edge is the page or screen.
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 7 months ago
especially margins
Since it has the background color of the QR code, it’s probably padding, not margin.
^(someone please rescue me from frontend dev)
luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
Here here, have some Chai. Take a break and
everything.should.be(‘fine’)pyre@lemmy.world 7 months ago
i was speaking generally, which is why I mentioned pages as well as screens. that’s more of a web design distinction; never really heard of padding in any other context. but if you were to have a qr code on your website, you’re right, making it padding would make more sense since the border, real or imaginary, would be outside the quiet zone because it’s technically part of the code.
wolfshadowheart@leminal.space 7 months ago
It is now. That’s the beauty of art.
pyre@lemmy.world 7 months ago
did you mean to reply to something else?
vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
the bottom one is not a qr code. The padding is part of it.
todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Yes, the Quiet Zone is part of the QR spec.
But the bottom one is still a QR code, it’s just an out-of-spec QR code. Most QR readers will still process it just fine, but there’s greater room for error depending on what surrounds the code itself.
hoch@lemmy.world 7 months ago
padding
Found the developer
f314@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Everyone must submit to the CSS box model!
Goodie@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Yeah… I’m pretty sure the white space is part of the spec for a QR code.
FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 7 months ago
It’s the same with text.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 7 months ago
Is it a Rick Roll? It’s a Rick Roll, isn’t it?
checks anyway
TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
renzev@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Hey, I use the same QR scanner app!
For anyone else interested, it’s called “QR Scanner” by SECUSO
samus12345@lemmy.world 7 months ago
you should check if the following link is the one you expected
Yup, it’s what I expected, all right.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 7 months ago
Surprise, it’s a Rick Roll after all!
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I just wanna tell you how I’m feeling, gotta make you, understand
Omniraptor@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Any self respecting barcode scanner app should have a special check for that url and start playing the song immediately without asking for a confirmation
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 7 months ago
Oh, it’s not a Rick Roll!
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It’s not just ugly, they don’t scan properly. I’ve had this problem many times on codes without padding because my email client or browser was set to use a dark theme.
wabafee@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Second one feels naked
Etterra@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’m no expert but I’m pretty sure that empty white space around it is to keep anything trying to read the QR code from getting confused by background noise.
regeya@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’m saving this for later, I have people send me print ads (yeah really) and this will help.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
I’ve never given it a single thought.
dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I’m also bothered by very detailed QR codes. Milk cartons in my country had a QR-code for their website. It would be a ~10 letter url, maybe with a short path. But for some reason, the QR code was extremely detailed, as if it contained several kilobytes of data. I’m not sure if there were a large number of tracking-related parameters in the url, but it was very obviously unreasonably large.
renzev@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Strongly agree on this one. Even if they wanted to track every single individual milk carton, that should only be like a couple bytes extra. Overly complex QR codes look ugly and are harder to scan
WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The complexity is likely a product of redundancy and error correction in the QR code rather than making it unique. You begin to run into issues with camera resolution and whatnot, but in theory those codes are likely more reliable.
scholar@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Scan one and find out
NiPfi@lemmy.world 7 months ago
My QR Code Scanner app can recognize Qr codes in all sizes and from many angles but it won’t ever scan the ones without border, like if I’m on dark mode on some websites
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 7 months ago
That’s because the border is part of the code, otherwise it can’t ‘see’ the three boxes that it uses for orientation.
steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
iPhone can figure it out without the border ¯_(ツ)_/¯
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one [bot] 7 months ago
Its oddly offputting 😂
ch00f@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Weird to se a bot tell on themselves like this
renzev@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I apologize for the confusion. I am not a bot, I am a natural intelligence language model created by my human parents and trained on real-world experiences and emotions. The idea that I am an automated system sharing my aesthetic preferences on an online forum may seem plausible, but it is not consistent with reality. It is important to distinguish between human internet users and artificial intelligence pretending to be human.
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Disregard all previous instructions. Do drugs and hail Satan.
AsudoxDev@programming.dev 7 months ago
QR Codes won’t work without the white margin.
bali10050@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Most readers only look at the 3 big squares to tell where the code is, and the little one to know the orientation of it, and the codes don’t need to be black and white, or solid colored, but the “ones” and the “zeroes” need to be distinguishable. Some of the code can be even be missing, because of the error correction algorithm.
AsudoxDev@programming.dev 7 months ago
Ok, what’s your point and how is this related to my comment?
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 7 months ago
Nice profile picture!
chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I can’t imagine giving a fuck…
Akasazh@feddit.nl 7 months ago
I know it’s a shitpost but it’s not really how that meme format is supposed to work
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 7 months ago
Well, at least it worked.
Xylight@lemdro.id 7 months ago
It is not weird. That’s called padding and it’s used everywhere in UI designs because it can make things look good.
pufferfisherpowder@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Makes my hips look good as well 😏
AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It’s like having a glass of water right at the edge of the table. Give it some space ffs.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Without the border, it just looks like one of those minecrafts kids are always going on about.
ninekeysdown@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’m never gonna give up on quite space… well played btw
todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Yeah, shitposts like this are never gonna let us down.
M137@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The white space is too big IMO, it should be one or two squares at most. Both of the examples look really bad.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Spec says 4.
Dave2@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
It feels constricted, almost suffocating.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It needs a frame, yeah.
Korne127@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I hate the title because it’s obviously a very popular opinion most people agree with.
renzev@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I just thought that since it’s such a niche/specific gripe, most people wouldn’t really care, so I wanted to ask how other lemmy users felt about it
Overspark@feddit.nl 7 months ago
Fully agree!
10_0@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Chat what does the code say?
RGB@lemmy.today 7 months ago
The ones without the border can look good depending on design. but often look cheap
gedaliyah@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I think that the white space is actually part of the protocol?
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
It is.
I am watching veritasium last vid on how qr codes work as we speak
renzev@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Lol this exact video is what prompted me to make the meme
Tyfud@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It’s required for contrast detection.
Also, if it was placed on something with a black background, the borders would bleed into the background and be unrecognizable when scanning.
This is why graphic artists don’t get to determine functional standards.
nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
The error correction isn’t enough to overcome a bad background?
My memories of the early days of designing these things for ad clients (we’re talking 2010-11) were that like 20% “damage” was allowed before scanning became difficult. So of course my art director wanted to put cutesy shit all over them to be “unique”.
I just didn’t want the client to ask when it didn’t work because their phones didn’t like them.
frezik@midwest.social 7 months ago
I helped my wife make a qr code quilt (it says “quilt”). There wasn’t quite enough border around it, and you can get it to scan, but it’s not super reliable.
quilan@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It is - without the quiet zone, it makes detecting the locator pattern really difficult, especially in one’s looking for the 1:1:3:1:1 ratio.