Hey just wanted to let you know, I’ve read every single post in this community and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future every night before bed when I use lemmy to claw some precious time back from the eternal grind.
Thanks for posting.
Anon drives a bus
Submitted 2 months ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works to greentext@sh.itjust.works
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Alk@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I’m glad you’re enjoying these. I’ll keep logging in to post greentexts until I forget.
nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz 2 months ago
Where do you find these? I go on 4chan and it’s mostly porn…
bstix@feddit.dk 2 months ago
People used to say the same about cellphones.
I remember one episode where a girl in the bus was texting and some old lady got up to tell her that “it will go into the engine”. The old lady was terrified.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 months ago
That reminds me of something.
Also on a bus. There was a group of goals on the bus and they were having a big loud argument about whether or not one of the group would receive a text from her partner or friend or whatever because “how would the text know where they were, as the bus is moving”.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
A valid question. Luckily a lot of work has been done to address it.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 months ago
My city bans bikes from buses because of the space they take up. Scooters and folding bikes are ok only if they’re folded up small enough not to be obstructive.
The really shitty thing is that bikes are allowed on trains. But if the trains are unavailable and get replaced by a rail replacement bus…because it’s a bus, you can’t take your bike.
PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Most of the buses where I am have a bike rack attached to the exterior, I’ve definitely taken that for granted.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 months ago
I’ve heard that they used to have those here. But that they took too long to put your bike onto, causing buses to fall behind schedule. So they got rid of them.
Cort@lemmy.world 2 months ago
When I was younger, every time I tried to use one, it was full. There’s such limited space that it becomes unreliable.
Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Damn, how I long for one of these.
Sakychu@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Funnily, here in my City in Germany, they only banned E-Scooters because of the battery exploding thing but E-Bikes are okay
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
I was until now unaware that there were places where (non-folded) bikes were allowed on buses. On trams and trains sure, but buses have such limited space that I can’t imagine a bike being transported in them.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
I have seen in more than one place a bicycle rack attached to the front of the bus to allow a few bikes
XTL@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Not much more difficult to accommodate than wheelchairs or prams. Actually easier in many cases because the operator or probably more fit and the object more insensitive to placement.
The shape can be unwieldy because of the length, though.
Highstronaught@feddit.uk 2 months ago
A few years ago the same thing happened to me. There was someone who wasn’t doing to good, on top of the station building on the next stop along throwing tiles and other things off. The operator got some replacement busses, that I couldn’t get as I had my bike. So I just sat there with someone else who could get on as they had their dog. For about 4-5 hours. Sucked allot as I was tired, the dog was cute though.
saltesc@lemmy.world 2 months ago
My city has bike racks on the front of buses. Bikes can go on trains but not during peak commuting times.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 months ago
Trains used to be the same here (with the exception that you could always take your bike on the train during peak hours in the non-peak direction, it was only peak direction that was banned), until they were trying to get people back on public transport after/late during the pandemic. Then they started allowing it even in peak hours, with some weird limitations like a maximum of 2 bikes per car, and only in the first or last car of the train.
Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’ve lived in a few cities with exterior bike racks on the busses.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
in defense of the bus, the battery pack in the bus is likely heat shielded and isolated to prevent fires from being a massive risk.
Emmie@lemmings.world 2 months ago
Yeah and it is inspected but if you bring random aliexpress china scooter who knows what kinda shortcuts were used to get it under 300 dollars
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
we love a good child labor battery pack
JohnyRocket@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Aliexpress is now a beacon of quality compared to the terrible stuff available on Temu. The worst part is that people buying a spare battery for their eScooter won’t do the research and will just be happy to get a “good” deal, until it explodes in their sleep…
holgersson@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I cannot have my own nuclear reactor, but the state can build nuclear power plants, wheres the fairness, wheres the freedom
RaoulDook@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You just need to stop telling yourself you can’t do things and do whatever you want. A child could build a nuclear reactor, so what’s stopping you?
FiskFisk33@startrek.website 2 months ago
the threat of jail time.
Also cancer.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Just don’t tell them about it. They don’t have to know about. Like my skull collection for example.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Tbf the manufacturing standards for plenty of e-scooters and -bikes can be pretty iffy sometimes, and people abuse them in ways that can increase the likelihood of issues. I concede that the vast majority of electric personal transportation devices that go up in flames usually happens during charging. A public transportation bus has to meet higher standards than a mono wheel scooter off of AliExpress.
(Imo they should be allowed on, but I can see the point in not doing so)
meep_launcher@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I’m not gonna say bike batteries explode all the time but I will say I worked at an ebike company and they had an entire department dedicated to handling exploding battery lawsuits.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Honestly, they should only allow devices with removable batteries, and they could have a bucket of sand outside the bus that holds those batteries. Kind of like how bicycles are attached to the front, you’d drop the battery in and then board the bus.
netvor@lemmy.world 2 months ago
but what if the bus is moving, on the road… Like in the middle of a desert (…wait… but still…)?
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
mmmm sandy battery, i love when my batteries have sand in them, surely this wouldnt cause problems.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Slight difference in build quality, wouldn’t you say?
valkyre09@lemmy.world 2 months ago
independent.co.uk/…/ebike-fire-regulation-escoote…
It does happen. Not like the bus driver has time to check the battery has all its relevant safety certs.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Yes, but at least someone is actually checking the bus battery.
collapse_already@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Meanwhile, TSA: no water bottle for you. Bring a cell phone, laptop battery, and a spare 20,000 mAh backup battery (of dodgy provenance no less)? Sure no problem.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Loved this when I was vaping and would travel for work.
Give me a ton of shit over my variety of juices, in 30mL bottles in my 3-1-1 bag…but the half dozen loose 18650s? Not a problem.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Assumably the bus company would be buying the bus from a company with better quality control then the Chinese ones. There were some knockoffs “hover boards” that catch on fire and that Chinese bus fire.
Battery Management Systems aren’t some new, developing technology. We know how to safely manage Lithium battery, it’s just the certain manufactures are cheaping out on the battery packs and BMS. People didn’t all stop using their phones because of the Note7 fires. People didn’t stop driving cars because of the Ford Pinto. They need to get over their EV fears and be more discerning
roguetrick@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Hilariously most of the electric buses are Chinese.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s the quality control and the fact that the buyer is a continent or ocean away. If a western company has hired a Chinese manufacture, they can get a good product if they stay on top of plant inspections. If not, the Chinese manufacture will start cutting corners. If you’re a western buyer, buy from a western company even if a majority of parts were made in China. If you manage to import a whole car from Alibaba and something goes wrong, you’re SOL.
cheddar@programming.dev 2 months ago
ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
I was looking up e-scooters and a bunch of 1-star reviews pointed out how their battery caught fire.
Could have been fake reviews by competitors but either way, it freaked me out.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 months ago
A lot of them will be fine but some of them are cheap knockoffs and they have unsafe wiring. It’s not actually the batteries themselves as they’ll probably be the same batteries it’s the way the batteries are connected up that makes them more likely to explode.
Unless you are Samsung in which case it 100% was the batteries at fault not the wiring.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s certainly an issue with some of them. I wouldn’t buy a random no name one from alibaba. It might be safe. Or not.
cheddar@programming.dev 2 months ago
I keep my scooter at the furthest point from the apartment exit just to be on the safe side. I also haven’t heard many bad things about this particular model (Ninebot G30 Max).
Evotech@lemmy.world 2 months ago
A home here burned down. Stay safe kids.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If it’s a cheap one, only charge it while home or somehow isolate it from flammables. Keep a fire extinguisher nearby always.
holgersson@lemm.ee 2 months ago
An extinguisher that can actually handle Lithium fires though. A regular CO2 extinguisher wont do anything against burning Lithium
XTL@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Also cellphones, laptops, power tools and just about everything.
Gasoline? Don’t let it inside in the house. Ever.
not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Now that’s a great green next
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 months ago
Cheap eBike batteries have and do set on fire though. Sounds pretty terrifying.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There is a clip circulating recently of a guy in China carrying his e-bike battery into the elevator. Than that thing explodes and the guy dies in a sea of flames. Yeah carrying a cheap high capacity li-ion pack into a enclosed space is not a good idea.
filcuk@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
To be fair, there may not be another option if he needs to get that to his flat and there’s no ground storage.
Horrifying.ICastFist@programming.dev 2 months ago
Quality control exists to ensure li-ion batteries don’t spontaneously combust, or at least not as often. Same reason why old timey film reels were kept under very carefully controlled environments, those things can also spontaneously combust. Any place that allows QC to be skirted will result in accidents and deaths like that elevator guy.
sheogorath@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There’s a video circulating few days ago of electric scooters on a truck delivery catching fire. The funny thing the fire happened right under an Ioniq 6 billboard.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 months ago
In Northern Ireland during the Troubles, people put (time)bombs on busses and when the bus driver heard about it, he just went and lifted it off the bus and put it in a ditch at the side of the road and informed the police. Couldn’t be bothered with evacuating the bus in the middle of nowhere.
Tja@programming.dev 2 months ago
Probably shaking his head and mumbling "I don’t have time for this shit"along the way.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 months ago
Electric busses not always have batteries, they’re also busses that connect directly to the power source like trolies
Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 2 months ago
rEAsOn bEinG Is 🥴
FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Please don’t use retarded in this manner
grandkaiser@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Who are you talking to? The 4chan user that posted this last month on 4chan?
Womdat10@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
This is 4chan, not something the poster said, 4chan is a cesspit, and this is to be expected.
Hikermick@lemmy.world 2 months ago
More likely that’s the insurance companies call
addictedtochaos@lemm.ee 2 months ago
i dont think that an electric fleet is feasable by 2030. for one simple reason: wintertime. the way to go for commercial vehicles is for the time being dieselelectric. that means diesel generator, battery, and electric drive.
f314@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We already have a fully electric bus fleet in my city (Oslo, Norway).
Granted, when we had a period of extreme cold and snow last winter there was a bit of chaos. The electric buses did struggle a bit with range (though we’re talking -20 C), but the main problem was the combination of rear wheel drive and lots of snow.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
How about this: allow devices with removable batteries on board, and have a bucket outside the bus to put the batteries.
Boom, problem quarantined.
snek_boi@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
Electric buses have a battery from a probably reputable supplier, with a decent BMS.
Escooters often come from AliExpress.
There is a difference.
Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Also it’s not even a choice. Busses are not mass produced vehicles their very regulated individually made commercial vehicles, and when the bus manufacturers say 'were not building manual transmissions as of X date, that’s it. It’s not happening anymore, same with ABS, and now electric, unless you want to start manufacturing busses, where you’ll also likely find out exactly why everyone is switching to electricity by 2030 for likely financial motives, and buck that to make a fossil fule busses, it’s not happening.
SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
It’s not just that; it’s that a regulator signed off on the bus, the city has liability insurance on the bus, and the bus manufacturer will themselves be accredited and insured.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 months ago
It’s insane to ban e-bikes though since most of those come from reputable sources who are internationally recognized bike manufacturers. The people who made my electric bike also make professional bicycles for Olympians. Pretty sure the battery is reliable and isn’t going to explode.
My bike has fallen into a swimming pool while switched on (don’t ask) and nothing happened. Literally it didn’t even register anything had happened it just carried it on.
GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Yours may be fine.
Barry Shitpea’s £100 dodgy 2000W temu special may not. And you can’t expect a bus driver to inspect every bike to only let reputable brands on.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You’re not the boss of me. What happened?
SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
The problem is telling the difference between a good bike (noting that even Samsung screwed that up with the Note 7…) and these: cyclingweekly.com/…/fire-brigade-calls-for-e-bike…
nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I think it’s worth considering banning that type of battery, but a whole category of vehicles? There could be good reasons to ban the whole category as well but then state that, instead of making up some shit about batteries.
muzzle@lemm.ee 2 months ago
No one has the time to check every escooter against a long list of battery supplier every time one wants to board.
Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 2 months ago
Didn’t see them banning powerbank or batteries from powertools, and both also allowed on plane.
zeekaran@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Allowed in carry on but not checked bags, for the same reason.
SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
Aircraft typically have a limit of 100 or 160 watt-hours and require that the battery be separate or the whole device be small (think laptop sized) so that you can dump it in a fireproof bag.
An e-bike has a ~1kWh battery that is probably strapped or zip-tied in place and there’s probably no serious firefighting equipment.