The whole season turned into half arsed fan fiction.
Anon watches game of thrones
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sirico@feddit.uk 4 months ago
geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I wouldn’t even call it fan fiction as the writers were seemingly not even fans of the show. It was like a fan hired someone who had never seen the show and hated everything about it to write it.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I call that the Netflix live-action anime treatment.
Rakonat@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Oh they hired 343i to write it? That actually makes sense.
loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Nah, they did kill a bunch of people. Remember the useless Dothraki cavalry charge? Straight up substracted the Dothraki army from the political equation, and removing several thematics from the narrative in the same blow. What would’ve become of the Dothraki after the war, had they survived? Would Kingslanding have kept a military continent of Dothraki, the way the Byzantines incorporated Huns in their army? Would they have had a political role in this new order? Would they have faced racism? Or would they have returned to the Steppe, and if so, would they have ruled it as an independent land or remained clients of Daenerys? And how would they have reacted to her death? So many questions that needn’t be addressed thanks to the white walkers.
Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Davos: “There is land in the reach, go start your own house”
Unsullied: “You… you do realize what we are, right?”
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 months ago
Adopt some orphans, there’s sure to be a bunch of those running around by now.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Remember the useless Dothraki cavalry charge?
I remember a very dark screen and a bunch of yelling and then nothing. I assume that’s what you’re talking about.
burgersc12@mander.xyz 4 months ago
I remember when the Dothraki magically respawned for the Bells/final episode. Hooray, even though they got literally swarmed, somehow, Grey Worm survived
BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 4 months ago
Next episode: Hordes of Dothraki
figjam@midwest.social 4 months ago
I’m so glad I never watched the last season. “Oh, but what about…” Don’t care. I’ll read the book eventually
Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 months ago
I’ll read the book eventually.
Get a load of Mr Optimism over here!
mosiacmango@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Somebody will write it.
That somebody will be Brandon sanderson.
Kaboom@reddthat.com 4 months ago
I kinda wonder if the reaction to the ending killed his motivation to finish it. Id buy that explanation.
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
My conspiracy theory is the show ended more or less how George R. R. Martin has been planning it, but because it was received so poorly he had to scrap it all and start the last two books over
some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It killed my motivation to read anything further about that world.
booly@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I’ll read the book eventually.
Oh you sweet summer child
Railcar8095@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Two books left, so far. Previous was released over a decade ago. I think a next book is possible, but two?
I bought the last one on release date, and I have no clue where each character is right now. I’m not reading the books again, and I don’t think a summary will make me care again.
jballs@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Yeah I’ve given up any interest. If another book comes out, there’s absolutely no reason for me to read it. Like you said, the last book is over 10 years old. So you’d have to re-read the entire series to catch up. Then you’d read the new book, only to be confronted with the same problem for the final book. I ain’t doing this whole thing again in another decade!
At this point, he’d have to release both books at once for me to have any interest in reading them again. And we all know that ain’t happening.
bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Yeah I saw how bad the penultimate season was and could tell I’d regret it. So I just came up with my own headcanon for how things end and don’t worry about it.
Visstix@lemmy.world 4 months ago
There is no “what about”. You’re good.
Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
They tried so hard to subvert expectations that they fucking obliterated everyone’s character arcs.
Infinite@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Gotta admit, I expected the show to end up making sense. Subverted!
EnderMB@lemmy.world 4 months ago
A lot of people shit on the final season, and rightly so. The ending didn’t fit the entire narrative of Ice and Fire, Arya’s training was basically useless, Daenerys’s ending didn’t make sense
I’m yet to hear of how anyone would rewrite the final season to be good, or where the plot points are all resolved. You would need to change a LOT, particularly how you conclude with the final battle AFTER Kings Landing is taken/won. There’s a few novel ideas there:
- Bran warging into a dragon
- The Night King ignoring the North and going to war with Kings Landing
- Arya using her skills at some point to attack/kill Cersei
- Jamie’s redemption, and possible pairing with Brienne, to leave Cersei alone and unhinged. Perhaps even Jamie killing Cersei?
- The Night King being such a credible threat that he actually takes over Westeros and the final battle being waged in Essos, or with the full “world” involved
- Jon ascending to the throne, as prophesied - but leaving the throne and escaping north
- Westeros just generally being destroyed and no one winning. " The dragons siding with Jon, leading to Daenerys’s madness
So many avenues, but I’m yet to read a coherent plan.
Evotech@lemmy.world 4 months ago
My main gripe with is with the final episode, the final ,“bran should be king” happy ending. Like come on. It’s so counter to the rest of the show. They just rushed the cleanup so badly.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 months ago
My headcanon is Bran warged into the writers and made them do that
RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
“bran should be king”
Didn’t you hear, who had a better story? Who? Totally king material.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Even worse (IMHO) was Martin rushing out book 5 in an unfinished state in order to take advantage of the TV show’s popularity.
Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I think the big thing is the Night King should have stayed in the Far North, and there should have been a counteroffensive to push into his territory and kill him there as the battle keeps raging in the south. A full on war, with the White Walkers being a seemingly impossible enemy to overcome, with the only glimmer of hope being the army in the north slowly approaching the Night King’s stronghold to cut off the threat at its source.
blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 4 months ago
A bit like Frodo et al.
booly@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I’m partially with you on this. Comparing the mess of a state that the books’ storylines are in, I think the TV show actually did a good job of cutting out some of the complications, from fake Aegon to Lady Stoneheart to the defeat of Stannis to all the storylines that were pruned in the Sept explosion, and finally moving things towards a conclusion.
If it is the case that Bran wins the throne in the end, fine, I guess that’s the finish that’s been prescribed.
But I do think the show itself could’ve hit all the same major points in a way that was paced better, with more episodes. More time building up Jon and Daenerys relationship, building up Euron as a major force to be reckoned with, making the final battle against the Night King a bit more evenly matched (maybe using some Children or better tactical use of dragons or even the freaking Dothraki), either building up or never adding the Golden Company, and maybe a bit more political or military skirmish/buildup between Cersei’s and Daenerys’s allies. All the while, really showing that Bran himself has got some cool shit going on and turning him into a more compelling character.
I feel like that could’ve been done without actually revamping the core storyline too much.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Daenerys made perfect sense, people overlooked all the evil shit she did the whole way, because she was “good.” You can argue just sitting there listening to bells during the turn was dumb, but the end result makes sense. For all the terrible shit in the last season, that really wasn’t something.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
it made sense. but not in that short amount of time shown. If it was a slow change over a season, it would have been perfect. But as it was it bascially went “oh well, better nuke the city”
NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I can understand saying it was rushed and poorly done, but the trained assassin, who serves the god of death, absolutely should have been the one to kill the night king. No one has a bigger beef with death than the undead army master.
Jon came back to kill Danny and take the throne and restore what passes for peace.
The Three Eyed raven took it from Jon.
None of this was especially well laid out or planned or paced correctly, but it’s the most Game of Thrones path they could’ve taken.
CitizenKong@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I mean, it was Martin’s plan, but the writers took the most stupid and lazy routes to get there.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 months ago
I honestly think he hasn’t finished the books because he’s got no idea himself how to actually end it. And after the backlash the show got, he’s now pretty sure it shouldn’t end like that…
Filthmontane@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s not about who killed the night king, it’s about when he died. If the opening scene of the show is about the white walkers coming and killing everyone, that should be the final scene of the show. Imagine return of the Jedi beginning with killing off Darth Vader, the main villain that the protagonists have been fighting against the entire time, and then the rest of the movie is Luke trying to defeat Jabba. Or if frodo got the ring to Mt Doom and then they still had to defeat saruman
They should have lost the battle in winterfell, retreated to kings landing, then had a final battle against the night King and cersei all in one major battle. It truly doesn’t matter who kills the night King, just that he is the last antagonist to die since he was the first one to be introduced. It’s about closing plot threads in the order that you open them.
NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Should I have put the part about being poorly paced, planned, and executed in bigger text or something?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Greatest teleport assassination in history
Bassman1805@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The music accompanying the Night King scene is absolutely top-tier. Shame the storytelling failed to live up to it.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 months ago
They didn’t do a good job of combining the existential threat of the dead with the political turmoil. It would’ve been better to focus on just one.
dariusj18@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I kind of like the idea that the white walkers end up being inconsequential to the story.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 months ago
I like the King dying to an assassin. He ended up being not too much more than a man in the end.
I’m not sure about his army dying with him though.
blarth@thelemmy.club 4 months ago
Unpopular opinion, this scene was so fucking awesome.
SSJMarx@lemm.ee 4 months ago
TBH I was super into it when I watched it the first time, the music and the visuals were all fantastic. I soured on it afterwards, when they were like “oh it turns out half the dothraki are still alive” and basically nobody noteworthy faced any consequences for the battle.
This battle should have killed like 90% of the named cast. Really go out with the ultimate expression of “anybody can die” and sell the shit out of the sacrifices made to stop the Walkers.
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
Imagine if what drove danaerys mad was losing all of her dragons, her army, and many of her allies in order to save Westeros, and not getting any credit
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Bucky did it better in Winter soldier…
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 months ago
On the plus side, Lyanna Mormont was pretty awesome.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 months ago
Never seen a show kill all interest in itself as GoT did at the end.
Although the quality had already dropped enormously as soon as they ran out of book.
Windex007@lemmy.world 4 months ago
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Anon crushed the alternative ending absolutely 1000x better than the actual show runners for free.
aquinteros@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I love this, and it made me absolutely angry again for this two fucks that gave us the most disappointing conclusion to a story that I loved deeply. it could have been so much more. nicolaj was awesome
Windex007@lemmy.world 4 months ago
As much as everyone (including me) shits on AI, it brings me great peace that within my lifetime basement fanfic hobbiests will be able to generate this scene/episode with HBO quality, indistinguishable as a fake.
That and my wish to see an Episode of star trek TNG where data gets sent to 1992 and has to save the community center by teaching Biggie and 2Pac the true meaning of Christmas
RacerX@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Jaime killing the Night King should have been the only right answer. It makes the whole trip beyond the wall to get evidence worth it instead of being for nothing, and it completes the greatest redemption arc in television history.
Bosht@lemmy.world 4 months ago
God DAMN that gave me chills. Mourning again for what could have been.
absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 4 months ago
I always disliked how Arya’s story at the temple of black and white went…
Kalladblog@lemmy.world 4 months ago
As someone who never watched GoT, I have no idea what all this is about and considering how much the last two seasons get memed, I don’t think I ever will.
rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Putting Marvel style quips into this completely kills it lol. “They say the best swords have names, gang? Any wacky ideas??” “Oh yikes! Not right now!” “Let’s name it Mountain Dew Baja Blast sponsored by Morgan and Morgan!”