No.250341473
>fantasy setting has magic and flying creatures
>still using horses as main transportation
No.250341651
>>250341473 (OP) #
>setting has nuclear energy
>still using coal as main energy source
setting has lemmy
still using 4chan
Anon has a power fantasy
Submitted 7 months ago by Gullible@sh.itjust.works to greentext@sh.itjust.works
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jaybone@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
There are positives and negatives to both platforms. Lemmy has an abundance of information about Linux and memes about Star Trek but misses out on literature discussion and completely lacks the ability recognize sarcasm. 4chan is a concentrated discussion hub where every interaction is seen and evaluated, but occasionally it hosts a slight hint of bigotry.
ICastFist@programming.dev 7 months ago
4chan (…) occasionally it hosts a slight hint of bigotry.
Understatement of the month. You don’t even need to visit the obvious alt-right infested boards to see that
three@lemm.ee 7 months ago
secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
Honestly I love image boards so much.
thechadwick@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You would just not believe the regulatory burden of maintaining magical creature flying safety regime too.
You drop a simple glove off directing and 30min later, boom. You’ve got a gnome commission setting up barriers around it and paperwork for weeks to come…
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Setting has electric cars
Car enthusiasts of the setting are fanatical about petrol cars instead
echodot@feddit.uk 7 months ago
They are now because you can still get petrol reasonably cheaply. When the price rises because everyone else has gone over to electric I think they’ll be less interested. Part of the problem is that there’s a whole generation of people who’ve grown up with loud noise equals cool car.
Pretty soon though there’ll be a whole generation for whom the vast majority of cars were electric their whole lives and I suspect they’ll be less interested in petrol cars. It’ll become a much more niche hobby.
Shard@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Even for luxury cars that run on petrol, there’s been a need to mimic old engine sounds so that the owners don’t feel like their cars are underpowered.
uis@lemm.ee 7 months ago
> Setting has public transport
> Setting is still full of carbrained petrolheads
tetris11@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
just once, I want to see a Mad Max movie where everyone gets on a train. Oh wait, they did that kinda with Snowpiercer
Default_Defect@midwest.social 7 months ago
I bought my 30 year old car 15 years ago for $2000 and it still runs well and hasn’t needed too much in the way of repair. Find me an electric that can do the same and I’ll make the jump in a second.
psud@aussie.zone 7 months ago
Find a 1994 EV in good nick? I can find you 2024 internal combustion cars that won’t last 15 years; I can find you a 2024 EV whose manufacturer says will last a million miles (or maybe that’s the 2025 version), that’s 33.3 thousand miles a year for 30 years. But that manufacturer lies.
Did your car claim a greater than 30 year low maintenance life when new? Is its lifespan typical of the model?
Can we take your position as “has an outlier lifespan car, doesn’t want to replace it”? My last car I sold was 20 years old and had seats with worn out cloth (and exposed padding) and broken plastic trim around its adjustment controls
Nissan leaf battery replacements were a minor repair when the first of those needed them. They got much better than new batteries for pretty cheap
Aux@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You’re killing people around through pollution. We don’t have to find you a car, we should put you in jail.
MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 7 months ago
A more accurate analogy would be along the lines of having jets and helicopters in the world but still using cars or trains as the main form of transportation.
Gabu@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Not sure how it applies, when trains are the superior form of transportation
Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Exactly. This is how it applies.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
Not to go down the road to the store.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Fall off a horse -> dust yourself off and get back on. There’s a whole idiom about how falling off horses is a frustrating but ultimately minor inconvenience.
Fall off a gryphon -> you are dead.
multifariace@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Superman was paralyzed from falling off a horse. It can be way more than an inconvenience.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Could slip in the shower too. Not sure what my point is… just trying to be extra pedantic I guess.
Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Wait, what’s the reasoning? Dude can stop bullets and be slapped through buildings but a Lil fall screwed him?
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 months ago
There’s a whole idiom about how falling off horses is a frustrating but ultimately minor inconvenience.
There’s also a whole list of people who have died falling off of horses. So there’s that.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
It is possible to die falling off a horse. It is nearly impossible to live falling off a flying mount.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Most fantasy settings that allow for gryphon / dragon / other winged mode of transport, also have saddles for such beasts that tether the user to the saddle/ animal. If you fall off, you unclipped your harness and deserved it.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
It’s considerable extra risk and cost for insignificant benefit. Helicopters exist but I don’t take one to work.
VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Also magic like slow falling potions
Sanctus@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Both of these can be explained with the same reasoning.
squid_slime@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Capitalism!
spookex@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Didn’t know that capitalism made people blow the miniscule dangers of nuclear power out of proportion and create irrational fear
son_named_bort@lemmy.world 7 months ago
A wizard did it.
Igloojoe@lemm.ee 7 months ago
For the nuclear energy one, i was thinking factorio. Which the reason no nuclear yet is that im just lazy.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 months ago
Makes me wanna link the thread where people were making the argument that wheelchair users and deaf people wouldn’t exist in fantasy settings.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
Just because there is magic doesn’t mean everyone can afford it.
Also interesting to think about, if a deaf person has a magic amulet that grants different hearing, are they no longer a deaf person or are they a deaf person with a magical aid?
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
are they a deaf person with a magical aid?
I think they’d still identify as deaf for community purposes.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 months ago
That’s basically hearing aids or cochlear implants and the thing is sound is uncomfortable if you’re used to not sound.
Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Are they naturally deaf or just hard of hearing? A deaf person would get a zero to sound checks no matter what.
yamanii@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I remember seeing the same for trans people, but in granblue fantasy some people still weaponized how Cagliostro was a born a man to make her mad, doesn’t matter how she looks or what she has down there, bigots will exist even in fantasy.
psud@aussie.zone 7 months ago
Fantasy worlds really often have sex as something one may select. It doesn’t serve the non-binary folk all that well, but there are several ways to pick either of the binary options
Jolteon@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
Another problem is that in order to have magic that is capable of fully transitioning someone, you basically need to enable full body modification for other purposes as well, so transhumanism becomes something you need to represent in your story (unless you just add arbitrary and meaningless restrictions to the magic).
ICastFist@programming.dev 7 months ago
They can totally exist in fantasy settings, but there has to be a reason why magic “doesn’t work” to heal that. “It’s a curse” or “there’s a powerful magical will” or whatever.
If it’s DnD, it can easily escalate into whether Reincarnation “fixes” that, since the person is getting a new body of a possibly different race.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 months ago
There are deaf people in our world that refuse cochlear implants. Why the hell does magic need a reason to “not work” when people IRL prefer to stay the way they are?
JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 months ago
Nope. Stop with the fucking ableist erasure of differently abled individuals. it’s just a fun little game to play with friends. It doesn’t need fuckingnmassive essays of world building.
Etterra@lemmy.world 7 months ago
A horse costs way less than a scroll of Teleport, or seven Fly. Like how it’s cheaper to drive than take a plane. You also don’t take a plane when an hour long drive will do, and you don’t cast Teleport to go from your room at the inn to the nearby village to clear out some goblins.
elshandra@lemmy.world 7 months ago
you don’t cast Teleport to go from your room at the inn to the nearby village to clear out some goblins.
Me who casts teleport to go from the inn, or my house, to the centre of town in games.
Dagrothus@reddthat.com 7 months ago
psud@aussie.zone 7 months ago
Towns can hire wizards to make teleportation circles to make quick cheap travel to specific places. No one more than an hour’s ride from a capital would use any other way of getting there
VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Coal 675 billion kwh
Nuclear 775 billion kwh
Renewables 894 billion kwh
Natural Gas 1802 billion kwh
This meme is dumb and wrong. Funny tho.
lessthanluigi@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Setting has Nuclear energy
Still uses Natural Gas as main energy source
whoreticulture@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Natural gas is not really an improvement 😭
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
I think Natural Gas is something like a 20% improvement over coal. So it is an improvement, but yeah it’s still 80% bad and it’s gotta go.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 months ago
Dystopian Fantasy; only the rich and powerful have access to magic.
daemoz@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Sounds like mistborn nobles
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Well, they also execute anyone not noble who inherits magic.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 months ago
only the rich and powerful have access to magic
You need lots of free time, rare books, expensive materials… I can totally see the random farmer getting into it.
johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Discworld really handled the overlap of magic and technology the best.
DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
“We need to subsidize the horse industry to protect jobs!”
Estiar@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
There’s a lot of hidden costs and infrastructure needed for magical flying beasts. Not to mention limited capacity. Little can compete with the horse drawn cart when it comes to capacity for price though.
Cypher@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Boats beat out horse drawn carts by an insane amount.
It’s why trade hubs and major cities were practically always on a major river and/or in a favourable location for a port.
I find most campaigns severely lack river transportation
EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
Yep, not having a bunch of your trade going to feeding and caring for your horses makes a huge difference.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 7 months ago
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TheFriar@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Big horse killed my baby
uis@lemm.ee 7 months ago
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NegativeInf@lemmy.world 7 months ago
All magic comes with a price.
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 7 months ago
What can I get for tree-fiddy?
Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It just costs 1 gold coin a month…
conditional_soup@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I have giant hummingbird mounts in my game, but guess what? They need nectar from giant flowers, or just barrels full of sugar water, and/or they sometimes pick fights with giant insects in order to try and eat them. (Fun fact, hummingbirds eat small insects IRL) They’re dead useful and loads of fun, but it exacts it’s price.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’m so very glad that I never tried to enlarge my pseudodragon familiar to try and ride him into battle. Never even thought about the fact that pseudodragons cannot pay attention for shit.
Noodle07@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Big chocobo disagree with you
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Large chocobo is pretty neat but can’t compete with my spherical sheep mount
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Plus, not every species can be domesticated. Gryphons and dragons are independent and not herd animals. So they may not understand the concept of following a leader, which is an important part of domestication. And if they did, you’d probably have to best them in combat before they’d do it.
psud@aussie.zone 7 months ago
But you can talk to them and make friends with them
uis@lemm.ee 7 months ago
But what if cart drawn by flying pony?
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Estiar@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I could never ask Fluttershy to haul things for me. At that point, I would start carrying things for her
Gladaed@feddit.de 7 months ago
This, but also for coal power in the 80s and 90s.