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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works⁩ to ⁨greentext@sh.itjust.works⁩

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  • neonred@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    *laughs in Fairphone 3

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    • dog_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The newer fairphones removed features too y’know. Also, it’s not available in the states.

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      • sbeve72@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        good

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  • peopleproblems@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    we need to make open source wireless communications infrastructure.

    how?

    idk the FCC is the major block as long as it’s funded by telecom

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    • uid0gid0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      HAM radio have been around for decades.

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  • almightyGreek@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I bought a Sony Xperia 1 V mostly because of this. No hole on the screen, it has a 3.5mm jack and tooless access to its SD/Sim card tray

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    • ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sony does a lot of things right, but I’m not spending €1200 on a phone that gets a measly 2 years of updates. With that hardware and that price tag there’s no excuse for that bullshit.

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    • IndiBrony@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m still on the Xperia 1 III. I’ve sworn by Sony phones for years. The price point does put off a lot of people, but it’s worth it IMO.

      That said, unlike a lot of people, I don’t care for the 3.5mm jack nowadays. I’ve had wireless noise cancelling headphones for long enough that I actually forget this phone has the jack. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    genuinely dont understand the logic behind having that many cameras. Surely it would just be better to have a singular better sensor, and some additional hardware for it?

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    • Tikiporch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I believe the extra cameras are fixed optical zoom. The physical limitations of the phones dimensions means you can’t have 1x-10x zoom, because the lens would need to move forward and backward like on a real camera lens. So you’ve got a 1x, 3x, 10x, fish-eye, etc.

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      • scottywh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        My suspicion is that the main purpose behind the multiple rear cameras is mostly to more easily create depth mapping and improved accuracy location metadata.

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      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        i mean, size constraints, sure. But camera bumps ONLY get bigger, and more unreasonable. Remember the iphone 6? little itty bitty nub. That’s not the case anymore.

        apple? (Idk, i dont care tbh) recently unveiled the incredible technology known as “two mirrors” in order to abuse the dimensions of an iphone to get a longer focal length.

        Even then, surely you could just put a bigger, higher resolution sensor on it, and then use digital zooming instead. That way it at least pretends to have features. Even then why bother adding more features, it’s a phone, all it’s going to do is be a nuisance at family gatherings. Because for some reason people HAVE to take pictures of everything.

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      • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        now I had to keep up with a bag that held all my attachments.

        That seems to be what they want. Or, where do you keep your USBc<->3.5mm conversion dongle if not in the bag with your headphones, lens clip, etc – in your kitchen drawer.

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    • uis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Image

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      • iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Hold my beer…

        Image of the Light L16, an Android device with 16 camera lenses on its back

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  • Underwaterbob@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    While I do miss those things, my S23 Ultra takes fucking amazing pictures.

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    • Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But imagine if you got a cheapish phone and a 1000 dollar camera.

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      • velvetThunder@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You have to carry much more and fragile weight to always be ready for a beautiful photo.

        But I can imagine that there are people that could profit from that.

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      • Underwaterbob@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Then I’d never have my camera with me.

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      • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Then carry around a portable IR blaster, FM radio, thermal camera and headphone jack dongle

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    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s weird how people want better pictures but then complain about the technical details needed to get better pictures.

      “I’d buy a new phone if it could take better photos of my kids.”

      Here is a phone that does it.

      “I’m angry! You were supposed to give me better photos without adding a different lens!”

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    • thoughtorgan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Same, love this phone.

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  • Pulptastic@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No screen. Just AI conversation.

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    • NegativeInf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Don’t have to pay UI designers if there’s no fucking screen! Think of those poor sweet shareholders!

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    • Skyline969@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Like (this)[wired.com/…/humane-ai-pin-700-dollar-smartphone-a…]?

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  • TIMMAY@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Man i used my samsung galaxy whatever’s IR blaster SO MUCH and I miss the fuck out of trolling my friends by turning their shit on and off

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    • TheDoozer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We had gotten rid of our TV remotes and when we had to upgrade our phones, we didn’t realize that feature was gone until we got home and tried to download the TV remote app we were using… which was unavailable on our phones. Because it lacked the hardware.

      We were upset.

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  • fckreddit@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Current smartphones are just vehicles to harvest people’s data. I hate the current smartphone market.

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    • Sloogs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I hate the current tech industry in general tbh

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  • sub_ubi@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And you have to buy a new one every two years.

    Profit motive is the event of quality.

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  • hoya@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    All I want is no front camera, single rear camera and no glue to get to battery.

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  • m4xie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The EU is mandating easily replaceable batteries from 2027.

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  • buddascrayon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    One must recognize that if those changes were truly not popular they would not have stuck.

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    • Mathazzar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not necessarily true. Sometimes a corporation is willing to continue with a bad choice in order to achieve some strange goal. Just look at Facebook absolutely going all in on Meta or Disney going ham on strange starwars choices.

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      • FoxBJK@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        OK but look at phone sales instead. Can anyone link the removal of any feature to a decline in sales? If these changes actually hurt these companies and were unpopular with users, the data would speak to that.

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    • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The illusion of choice.

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  • Ilflish@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A sixth camera is the obvious answer

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    • lapommedeterre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think it follows Fibonacci

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  • Wirrvogel@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I am never buying an expensive Smartphone again. Just something that works for emergency calls and 2FA and lets me buy a ticket for public transport. I am not gaming on it, I rarely listen to music with it, I only have about 6 apps on it in total. Give me a long lasting battery and let me replace it. The only thing that I need is a big screen, because I am handicapped and have bad eyesight and it is easier to see and use the software if it isn’t too small, otherwise I would prefer a smaller size and I give a f*ck how slim or thick the phone is or how water proof, non of my phones ever got even a tiny bit wet. In the 7 years I own my current phone I have taken about 50 pictures and 48 got deleted shortly after. I also do not need a lot of storage.

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    • Raz@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s understandable, but then you aren’t exactly the target audience for flagship phones. I do love good low/midrange phones tho, and there’s plenty of those for you to choose from it seems.

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  • binbows@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They’ll fucking sell the phone and box separately

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    • Ulijin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sell? That’s a weird way to say lease

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      • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Leasing phones is pretty popular over here these days due to the edge to upgrade every year

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  • redhydride@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Next is making one phone with all the bells and whistles and locking them behind subscriptions

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    • Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      A Slide out keyboard, but you have to give it $2 a day to use it.

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  • RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You can still remove the micro sd, it’s just hidden now.

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    • PunnyName@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      My phone doesn’t have micro SD at all.

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  • kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I hate both phone types horribly. On screen keyboards are complete trash. Not only did Android take the SD Card, but even if you happen to have a manufacturer who still includes it Google has made it horribly inconvenient to use so you buy their shitty cloud storage that loses people’s data. Among many other issues.

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  • lorty@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Who even used IR?

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    • mctoasterson@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I loved this feature on the Galaxy S4. You could literally change the channels at sports bars.

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    • iamjackflack@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Amazing for turning down obnoxiously loud tvs in doctors offices / etc. I miss this

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    • potustheplant@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I did. I was able to control the AC and any tvs just using my phone and it was glorious.

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    • scottywh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In addition to using it as a remote control you could also use it as a modem… It was slow but I used it occasionally.

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    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Me.

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  • riskable@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They’re going to make the experience “better” by forcing you to talk to their AI to get anything done.

    Walking around with new phone: “How do I turn on the flashlight? There no flashlight button in the pulldown menu anymore… OK Google how do I turn on the flashlight?”

    “To turn the flashlight on or off you have to say, ‘OK Google, turn on the flashlight’ or ‘OK Google, turn off the flashlight.’”

    It’ll start with small things but eventually they’ll want to stop paying developers to add GUIs so they’ll just force us all to use the AI.

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  • null@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “Cut a hole in your screen”

    So we still don’t grasp how this works, huh?

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    • jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t understand how we’re still whining about notches. We got extra screen and people choose to focus of the notch even 5 years later? Talk about glass half empty mentality…

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      • LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’m whining cause I miss having bezels. Having a spot on the screen I can reliably touch that isn’t touchscreen was nice.

        The notch is plain ugly and took away screen real estate for notifications and system icons. The pinprick ain’t too bad, don’t notice it much, but looks fuckbad on full-screen videos and games.

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      • pimento64@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s ugly and it’ll never not be

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  • JCreazy@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    While I’m all about options because everyone has different use cases, I’ve found that over the years as these features have been removed, I haven’t really missed them

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  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you want the good camera, you need to get the giant version of the phone.

    If you want a phone that fits in human hands, you can only choose from subpar cameras.

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    • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mean, that’s a technical limitation not an anti-user move. Unless you want a phone that’s all camera and no battery or speed.

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      • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Do you think that the sensors in flagship phones take up significant space in the phone or are significantly larger than the sensors in smaller or cheaper phones?

        I might agree that a smaller phone can’t have like FIVE cameras, like some of the flagships, but they can certainly fit the same high-end sensors themselves.

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  • art@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Most of these gripes are solved by simply not buying the flagship and instead purchasing the $200 unlocked version.

    Now the battery, that’s the one that pisses me off the most. But at this point we’ve been doing it for 10 years.

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  • ByteWizard@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    People don’t care. They buy whatever marketing tells them to buy. Lines around the block for the first iPhone when it was vastly inferior to the other phones of the day. Couldn’t even use custom ringtones. Knew then that people really are sheep.

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    • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nothing was superior to the iPhone when it came out. It successfully married multiple types of mobile device into one device. Not even ashamed to admit that while several other devices did the individual things it did better, nothing brought them together like that.

      That said, modern smartphones are a bit ridiculous and the idea of spending $1200 every two years on a phone should be revolting to people. iPhone or Samsung, stop fucking doing this sheeple.

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      • ByteWizard@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I had a Windows phone at the time that was vastly more capable. I could use any MP3 I wanted for a ringtone for starters. iPhone couldn’t do that. iPhone was a Fisher Price children’s toy in comparison.

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    • Nurgle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Genuinely can’t tell if this comment is parody or not.

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    • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s not about caring. It’s the lack of choice.

      Telecoms lock out phones and say “To use our network, you must use x.”

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      • n0clue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        IDK the Zune HD was vastly superior to the iPod touch and cheaper.

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      • ByteWizard@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Nope. ATT at the time the iPhone came out didn’t have a whitelist. Any unlocked phone with the right radios could be used. Which is why I used ATT for a decade or so. Then the 5G bullshit came out and suddenly ATT wouldn’t activate a phone unless they blessed it first. So now I’m on Mint which is way cheaper and I can still use any phone that’s compatible. No whitelist.

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  • Snapz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Unstoppable full screen ads you have to watch before you can answer a call or view a text on your own phone

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  • M500@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My phone has two cameras. I hardly use 1.

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  • UFODivebomb@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Making them increasingly difficult to hold (“but design!” They cry) so you “accidently” have to buy a new one again.

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  • 3rdwrldbathhaus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    User serviceability is intentionally not a focal point especially when it comes to anything a person has to use day to day. Any kind of tool or appliance- and especially electronic devices, forget about it. Luckily there are off the beaten path companies like framework and fairphone, but these are hard to market to regular joes and some are unavailable in a lot of regions.

    Tech enthusiasts like presumably a lot of this comment section is are lucky there’s at least something out there.

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  • SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    1. If this hasn’t been done already, being able to unlock the bootloader
    2. Adding “AI” integrated into the OS with vague benefits even though the processing is done on the cloud (like Windows) just so the OEM can spy on you better
    3. Forced volume limiters: The phone won’t let you stay at max volume for more than 5 minutes a day, even if connected to a BT device set at substantially under max volume
    4. Making it take more clicks to disable Internet, Bluetooth, other connected features
    5. DRM built into Android itself
    6. Being able to sideload
    7. Ads within the OS

    All of these are already on their way to being implemented:

    1. Already the case with the vast majority of phones
    2. Pixels already have this. Samsung is focusing on this in 2024. Several Chinese OEMs already have some version of this.
    3. This was an idea Google attempted to implement in Android 14. Seems like it didn’t go through that year, but there’s always this year.
    4. Google already made it harder to do this in Android 12. Apple also does this with the toggles only disabling WiFi/BT until tomorrow. Other OEMs are good for now.
    5. After widespread disdain for Google’s Web Environment Integrity BS, Google is quietly pivoting to this stupid change.
    6. Google is now making it harder to do this on all Android phones. Now, you can only sideload apps targeting an Android version at most 8 behind the current one. This disables lots of little FOSS projects that were light on system resources.
    7. Most Chinese OEMs already do this, although you can usually turn it off. Samsung used to do this, but backpedaled. Also bloatware exists.
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