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Putin too, for some reason

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Godric@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • Sackett@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Everything I don’t like is CIA propaganda” is the usual argument.

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    • Godric@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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      • ivan@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Hey, there’s also “CNN talking mfer”. I was called that for recalling my literal personal experiences of interacting with Russians years before full scale war.

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      • DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Of course, the CIAand US Government does actually do propaganda campaigns. Whether via things like the Voice Of America radio station. Or like

        The Anti-Communist stuff:

        Operation Mockingbird bird: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird,

        The Crusade for Cultural Freedom.
        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade_for_Freedom

        The Congress for Cultural Freedom. en.wikipedia.org/…/Congress_for_Cultural_Freedom

        The Red Scare. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare

        More general fuckery

        Lavender Scare. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavender_scare

        The suppression of the PRISM information program. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM

        Suppression of wartime massacres: en.wikipedia.org/…/Mukaradeeb_wedding_party_massa…

        The assassin of Fred Hampton (American communist)
        en.wikipedia.org/…/Assassination_of_Fred_Hampton

        The unproven assassination of MLK (American Socialist).
        en.wikipedia.org/…/Assassination_of_Martin_Luther….

        And that’s just a small portion of the US government propaganda campaigns they’ve run ON AMERICAN CITIZENS. Not including things like the outlawing of Anarchism, or whatever the hell people like Allen Dulles and George Bush Senior were up to…

        …and all of this is before even asking about overseas propaganda campaigns.

        So yes, the CIA has definitely been heavily involved in curbing American opinions, and suppressing support of Communism and Socialism in America.

        American Free speech - but only to an extent, after that you’ll have to deal with government suppression.

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      • CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Hurtful, I’m like SUPER likable

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    • CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Aww man, I put a TON of thought into my propaganda. At least give me some constructive criticism instead of just not liking it

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      • rockerface@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Oh, great to see you here! I’ve been meaning to contact you regarding my latest propaganda paycheck delay.

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      • Derpenheim@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        19 XRAY KILO FOXTROT 28

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  • abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Meanwhile the Anarchists are like…

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    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I wish I could create an alternate reality where anarchy reigns and transport all these “anarchists” to it and watch them drown the entire reality in their tears as they suffer and die.

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      • CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social ⁨26⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Interesting how your first thought is murder, isn’t it?

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      • abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨57⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Without the Government and Capitalism, everything would collapse and it would just be like Mad Max!

        If Bosses and Cops are the only thing stopping anyone from going all Mad Max, then we would already be in that Anarchist Dystopia you’re imagining because the Mad Max Style Hooligans you imagine wouldn’t care about what the Law or some Rich Guy says.

        If the only thing stopping you from going all Mad Max are cops and bosses, then I think you should examine why and maybe, perhaps, seek help, because the average person doesn’t go about going “I wanna kill people but the only thing stopping me is the Cops.”

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      • blackbelt352@lemmy.world ⁨45⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        My vision for anarchy basically functions like an average friend group, there is no “leader” of the group, anyone can organize an event, whether its a hangout, a dinner, or asking for help with a project. Nobody is forced to go to any given event. If a conflict comes up, then we talk about it like adults, and come to a beneficial resolution. Each person chips in in their own ways. Honestly its pretty fucking awesome and I think the world would be a lot better place if we had this mentality.

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    • DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨59⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Anarchism? Wasn’t that made illegal in the US after the Haymarket bombing?

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      • abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨43⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Well you see the thing about Anarchists…

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    • diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Well, easier to overthrow one than the other.

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      • CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social ⁨26⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Is it tho

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  • DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Can’t tell you how many times these twats have called me a genocider.

    It used to be a pretty serious word, but these losers are working overtime stripping it of all its meaning by using it on everyone that disagrees with them.

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    • Godric@lemmy.world ⁨58⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      I’ve been called a zionist genocider for pointing out mass-murder is evil. People are fucking NUTS!

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      • DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨52⁩ ⁨seconds⁩ ago

        They sure are, and I think some of them are here to brigade this post.

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  • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s enough to drive a man to anarchy

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    • rockerface@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Makhno was right all along

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      • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        I don't think that was ever in doubt.

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    • luthis@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s the only option

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  • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Counter-revolutionaries aren’t innocent. Check mate, lib /s

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    • Godric@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      REACTIONARY, REACTIONARY, YOU’RE A CIA REACTIONARY

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  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Liberals, we have to get rid of billionaires and the wealth gap. Eat the rich.

    Communists, we could put them through struggle sessions and beat them in the streets?

    Neoliberals, nah, let’s see what billionaires want, let them into government.

    Tank man, I have had a hell of a day and just want to get my shopping home, and now there’s a tank here. I’m gonna fuck with a millitary in the 80s.

    The US: Our millitary would never Kent state, or Waco, or Ruby Ridge, or Battle of Blair Mountain, or extraordinary rendition anyone! This is proof that communism is bad.

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  • dracc@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ll let my ignorance shine - what’s the b/w photo to the right?

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    • Forester@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Pretty sure it’s the 1990s DPRK famine

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  • Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Mao was right about landlords.

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    • Godric@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And Hitler built the Autobahn. Morons love to handwave mass murdering dictators.

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      • DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Most people don’t even realise, Tianamen Swuare was about Free Speech, and opening China up to Market Socialism.

        The people being massacred - WERE THE COMMUNISTS AND UNIONISTS…

        They weren’t pro-Markets. They wanted China to stay communist, just with more democratic rights and protections.

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      • Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Yes, Godric, compare carbraintopia to removing an entire class of parasites. Sure. I’m the moron lmao

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      • DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Also, Mao wasn’t actually in power in 1989…

        …a leaders “murdering” really has to be once they’re in power…and a lot of the murdering Mao did was due to unintended agricultural famines (made harder to correct as farmers and teachers had been attacked by the red guard student movement, and the USSR had sent a conman over to advise them on crops, killing all the sparrows certainly didn’t help either).

        After the Chinese civil war there was an internal political war for who runs the Red Guard student radicals. Mao lost that one, and thus began the Chinese tradition of sequestering leaders… After Tianamen Square Zhao Ziyang was sequestered to his retirement home for trying to speak up for Student Demonstrators.

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      • zakobjoa@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        HE DIDN’T! THE PLANS WERE DRAWN UP UNDER THE KAISER!

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  • yesman@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The difference between the two is getting narrower and narrower. Dystopian surveillance and murderous authorities? Check. Imperialist foreign policy built on multiple genocides? Check. Pogroms and oppression of minorities? Not only check, but the US is arguably worse than China or the USSR. Though I admit that may be due to the US having an extra century to do dirt. And don’t forget America’s the world leader in Gulags.

    The idea that America is benevolent is stupid. The idea that she’s benevolent by comparison is running mighty thin.

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    • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Uhh, yeah, we don’t disagree that America often sucks. Pointing that out in response to criticism pointed at other authoritarian regimes doesn’t make them good. For example, talking about gulags is guaranteed to trigger someone to bring up America’s incarceration rate. Does that magically make gulags good? No, it’s whataboutism and deflection.

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      • mattyroses@lemmy.librarysocialism.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        When people want to pretend that communism is worse than capitalism because of gulags, that’s not whataboutism.

        Because when capitalism is imprisoning as many people as communism, and also leaving millions to live on the streets, starve, etc. then it’s very relevant since you’re comparing them.

        When you criticize only one system for things done by both, pointing that out isn’t deflection - it’s simply showing the hypocrisy. When that’s your only argument in the comparison, that’s very relevant.

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      • yesman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        talking about gulags is guaranteed to trigger someone to bring up America’s incarceration rate.

        I didn’t mean to imply the connection between America’s gulags and the Soviets. I meant to state it explicitly. And I also want to point out the meme itself is a whataboutism.

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