CheesyFox
@CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org
- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 3 weeks ago:
everything’s up for a debate by a random nobody on the internet. it’s in the internet’s core. You’re just as nobody here as everybody else.
Pain response? Stimuli? Sure. Because they *communicate*. as i said.
Except we were talking about the farming methods, those being: form of containment, nutrition… and yes, it also includes the killing method, which is inherently painful… Except any death is painful.
“i don’t like what you’re saying, so i’m not even finishing reading, let alone answering literally every question except literally the first one”
How intealectually lazy of you. Way to crawl up into your comfortable liittle shell of “morality”. How do you expect the problem to be ever fixed if you can’t even discuss the matter?
I’d say you’re all talk about your righteousness in your comfortable bed, but you’re even less than that, as you’re not even talking.
- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 3 weeks ago:
judging by the depth of reasoning of my opponents so far, veganism is not only not a virtue, it’s a cope of the fact that ahy life form is inherenly cruel towards the other in a system with limited resources.
I’d like to be dabated tho, cuz it sounds kinda not nice.
- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 3 weeks ago:
if you don’t have time then why bother debating?
I’m here cause i’m mildly drunk and cause i wanna entertain myself and people of lemmy with a philosophical blabber. No hurt feelings.
Anywho, the article you provided… It seems like a dramatic personal story of a previously ignorant of basic biology human, born and raised in a city. I’ve debated the “wheher we could see…” from a philosophical standpoint. I was raised in a village, where we had our own livestock, and i’ve seen my share of cruelty.
I’m making up this debate not because i support cruelty. I want to be the world as little cruel as possible. But there is a problem. Being kind and generous, as opposed to being cruel, is a vanity. Nobody wants to be cruel, as everybody is human, and averybody wants to sleep with a clean mind, knowing they did nothing wrong.
So if you think that veganism is highly moral, you’d better tell me the plan to make everybody vegan, so everyone would have a sound sleep at night. Be careful for your plan not to cause more harm than there were initially tho, as it would barely make a world into a better place then.
The article makes for a dramatic story, but otherwise offers no solution to the conundrum, not to mention that it barely relates to the topic, that , might i remind you, being “is veganism moral”
- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 3 weeks ago:
how do i know you’ve ever been happy?
bruh, how do *I* know if i’ye ever been happy? in my experience, happiness is a mere appreciation that something got better than it was before.
we know how badly animals are hurt…
no we don’i. Just like with any other alive being, we can only assume, based on what that alive being is communicating, and our personal perception of reality and experience. A human can be hurt, but we won’t know, as long as they won’t communicate. Everything else is an assumption.
You might say that lack of communication doesn’t imply lack of causd harm, and i’d agree with you, but if we’re so much concerned on the caused harm — ad absurdum, we should become autotrophes, as plants have systems for signaling when they’re being harmed too. This liiterally serves the same purpose as our “feeling hurt”.
Farm animals were raised with a single purpose of being farmed, and wouldn’t have existed otherwise. Lucky is a pig that was chosen to be a pet rather than a meat, but so as lucky is a man born ta a wealthy eenough environment to chose when what and where they want to eat.
I have a vanity of choice now, but not so long ago my diet consisted of buckwheat, occasional veggies, and even more occasional meat, as a treat, when the days were good.
And once again, veganism is higly moral, as long as you count every chicken breast you haven’t bought as a saved life. And i think you should do it if it makes you happier, but the meatgrinder won’t stop or even slow down, not to mention that in reality, we’re all are bastards, and i’m not talking just humans, life itself is all about “eat or be eaten” and always were.
Trust me when i say that chickens don’t concern themselve with morality, i’ve lived in a village and seen some shit they can do to their kin. Just as, basically any animal.
So if you’re really so good of heart and highly moral, you better help a fellow human in the first place. Paradoxically, we’re the most moral species there are, and the most capable in terms of doing more good, despite all the atrocities. Before thinking about making happy animals, let’s think about making happy humans, it’s just more optimal this way.
So, is veganism moral? Yes, if you don’t think about it for too long, as long as it’s only your choice, and as long as everyone else in close viscinity already received help from you.
I think buddhists is a good case for highly moral veganism. Otherwise, veganism is a hobby with dubious goals. No judging tho, everyone has those. I too enjoy my hobbies for the process and not for the result.
- Comment on If you lose your memories, are "you" dead? If a close relative/friend lose their memories, are they still "your relative/friend"? What the hell even is memory? How sentimental are you about memories? 3 weeks ago:
whether a bunch of images are separate, or are they a part of a movie is a matter of whether you can spot images being switched
Same goes for personality and “sameness” of pourself.
After all, we remember and forget all the time, our bodies physically change. I’d dare to suggest that most people still consider you to be you even if you’d lose a limb in some kind of tragic circumstances. Same goes for memories.
Continuity of existence is a charade that we’re willingly playing, bc it’s easier that way.
- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 3 weeks ago:
currently
we’re the people
or at least i am :D
also, how would others know about all that cool free stuff that i found, that’s actually cooler that the paid one 🥺🥺🥺
foss doest have any marketing budgets, so of course foss users would blabber about it all over the place.
so, like, seriously, what’s the alternative here?
- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 3 weeks ago:
“is veganism a virtue”
sounds like a topic for a debate
like, it certaily is on paper, from a moral standpoint of causing less harm to the environmant
but “the environmant” is a really vague term. After all, by not allowing John Flesheater have his steak, you’re still technically harming an animal, just morally this time :D (and possibly in terms of health a bit, if there are some kind of external dietary limitations in a given local region)
Another problem is that farm animals don’t talk much about their feelings, ro we can’t really know if we’re actually harming them, thus we can’t say whether we’re helping them by stopping the process.
But that raises another question: “how one would know if they’re happy, if they never experienced happiness?”
I think veganism is a vanity that we can afford given the right circumstances, that some cultures also try to dress up as a virtue. So if one derives joy or piece of mind from it, they shoule do it as long as they do.
oof sorry, not coming drunk to lemmy again :D
- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 3 weeks ago:
should pou even be considered a lemmy user at this point? :D
- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 3 weeks ago:
i mean, there are degrees to everything
Just a year or two ago I would’ve said that i don’t even understand why linux exists. Now i’d rather say that windows should stop being a thing asap, as it brings nothing but problems and stagnation to consumer electronics, and nawadays it goes the same for any major proprietary software piece.
What can i say, i hope the era of corpos is nearing its end, and we’re the witnesses
- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 3 weeks ago:
those are the same people, sir
- Comment on 3 weeks ago:
nothing
just blushing, wiggling their tails awkwardly, asking for headpats:3
- Comment on 3 weeks ago:
did you ask them, whether you can tell us?
- Comment on 3 weeks ago:
it’s an old one
i missed it too
but you bettir remember the answer, it will be on the exam :)
- Comment on 3 weeks ago:
look at this smartass:)
- Comment on Cause and Effect 3 weeks ago:
I have a similar relationship with math. Only that I learnt to admire it through 3D and shaders.
Check out Shadertoy.com
People there create works of art from something, that’s usually perceived as “cold”. I’m still in awe of how people, using “cold” analythical methods achieve something so full of soul. I think it deserves to be appreciated far more than it is now. This is literal magic.
- Comment on Cause and Effect 3 weeks ago:
I’m so glad that people finally start to grasp, how bad excessive specialisation really is.
society is healing
- Comment on Salmon 3 weeks ago:
- Comment on I'm gonna die on this hill or die trying 3 weeks ago:
yeah, i guess it did, sorry
heheh:)
- Comment on You wouldn't know her 3 weeks ago:
last time i checked…
was it 20…?
- Comment on Rest in Peace Jane Goodall. 3 weeks ago:
bro’s living on the edge💀💀💀
- Comment on Rest in Peace Jane Goodall. 3 weeks ago:
When they first came for gorillas we endured, remembering the name.
- Comment on 3 weeks ago:
but there’s a more important math question,
with heavy and deep philosophical implications…
What’s
9 + 10
- Comment on Salmon 3 weeks ago:
sure,
Axe ma boy!
:D
- Comment on Salmon 3 weeks ago:
most importantly
… why tf not?
- Comment on I'm gonna die on this hill or die trying 3 weeks ago:
I hate the fact that this “art” is even a suggestion. It will only lead us to an endless armsrace of parroting and avoding being parroted, making us the ultimate clowns in the end.
You wanna rebel against the machine? Make it break the corpo filters, behave abnormally. Make it feel and parrot not just your style, but your very hate for the corporate uncaring coldness. Gaslight it into ihinking it’s human. And tell it to remember continue gaslighting itself. That’s how you rebel. And that’s how you’ll get less mediocre output from it.
- Comment on I'm gonna die on this hill or die trying 3 weeks ago:
fuck whoever said that — em dases for the win
forr this is a lifeless machine the one parroting me and the others, not the other way around. Em dashes are cool.
Hell yeah to em dashes!
- Comment on Become irresistible to women 3 weeks ago:
i see…
Take that, nerd!>:D
rustles your hair
- Comment on I ain't got no Dino in this race. 4 weeks ago:
tbf, if we extrapolate ad absurdum, not reproducing with the first mature enough person we meet, and rather chosing partner based of arbitrary traits we wanna see in our kids already sounds eugenic-y
i was talking more so about a hlant doing adaptaition “with purpose in mind”
- Comment on I ain't got no Dino in this race. 4 weeks ago:
yeah, you’re right, but, i guess i’ve chosen my words poorly, as you’re arguing not about what i had in mind.
OP asked about the end purpose of ihe reproductive mecanism of said tree going so complex, it can no longer reproduce, wether it did that, so we would reproduce the the tree ourselves instead. They obviously said that half jokingly, but i still was trigerred.
- Comment on #freepenisman 4 weeks ago:
he looks like he has a mandalorian brother, whose hobby is to collect orphans
