Lmao I like how everyone was saying this was going to happen like a year ago. So predictable.
EA is shutting down BioWare and the next Mass Effect has been canceled
Submitted 2 weeks ago by scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech to games@lemmy.world
https://www.respec.net/news/266-ea-shutting-down-bioware-next-mass-effect-has-been-canceled
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Anchorxiety@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
rtxn@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A year ago? People called it eight years ago with the Anthem disaster that Dragon Age 4 would be the studio’s last chance. BioWare was already dead, this is just the merciful last bullet.
rafoix@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Anyone that cared about RPGs was pushed out by greedy losers.
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 2 weeks ago
EA has bought so many good game studios and forced them to make shitty games and then closed those studios because the shit games that they forced them to make didn’t turn a profit, i played Red Alert 2 so much and had so much fun and knowing we’ll never get anything like that again makes me want to launch all these life sucking corporate ghouls into the void.
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
As an FYI, I’ve been having a blast with Tempest Rising, it’s not exactly like Red Alert but it’s definitely got that old school C&C vibe to it.
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 2 weeks ago
I played it and it is good but i grew up playing Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2 so that might be why it doesn’t click with me, it’s too much like Red Alert 3 and apart from Tim Curry (R.I.P.) it didn’t take long for me to be bored of it.
Tiberium Wars was kinda the last game from EA in this genre that i would call good and i won’t even bother mentioning the garbage that EA made afterwards.
TR did get some updates so i might revisit it and see how it clicks.
Ashrakal@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I second that. Frank Klepacki delivered some very good tracks on that title too!
ElChinchilla@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I just replayed all of the mass effect games and dragonage games about a year or 2 ago, once Saudi Arabia bought EA I was like, welp, there goes that. (PIF can suck my DIF)
Now with Bioware being closed, glimmer of hope a new powerhouse independent studio pops up.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Honestly, is Andromeda worth playing? That’s the only one I haven’t finished but do have it downloaded
ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m a bit out of the loop with studio purchases, but were they going under originally and needed to sell? I have to assume anyone selling their company knows it’s on borrowed time.
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 2 weeks ago
EA offered them a ton of money 100 mil or something in the ballpark and they thought they could keep going as before but with EAs corporate boot on their throats they fell apart, unhinged demands, release dates that required a ton of overtime, etc., just typical corporate assholes destroying a team that created some of the most iconic strategy games to date.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You didn’t like Generals?! /s
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 2 weeks ago
I spent so much time modding Generals and it was fun BUT it had a problem that’s present even today that if you play longer it would get slower and slower and eventually crash, there might be a fix but i haven’t bothered to check for the past 20 years.
rafoix@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I’m guessing those new owners don’t appreciate stories where gay characters are treated with respect.
BladeFederation@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Yes, on sure THAT’S the reason, and not that Bioware has been dead in the water for 12 years at minimum
bilb@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
People keep blaming Saudi Arabia/Kushner for this, but it was going to happen with or without them.
Ashtear@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
They don’t care. That kind of thing would be censored locally but as long as it makes them money, it doesn’t matter.
mereo@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
Eh… It was written on the wall 12 years ago when EA bought Bioware.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Neverwinter Nights. Dragon Age Origins. Mass Effect. Knights of the Old Republic. It may all be considered unc slop now but man Bioware at its peak was some good times in gaming.
Psythik@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So I guess this means that we’ll never get that KotOR remake then…
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
holy_scroller@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I can still remember that feeling of anticipation when “Westwood” came on the screen. I haven’t felt that in decades 😔
TheArtfulLlama@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Good lord everything EA touches turns to shit. Mass Effect is one of my all time favorite series and I credit it with breaking me out of just playing JRPGs. I was really looking forward to the next entry in the series, but the trilogy (there is no Andromeda in Ba Sing Se) will always be in my top games of all time and has enough of a conclusion to leave me satisfied
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Bioware has been dead to me since they got bought by EA anyway.
EngineerFromTheBush@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Fuck Jade Empire is such a good game.
darkmogool@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
oh no… what a surprise… ea shuts down a studio they aquired…
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
good. It died years ago, should have killed the walking corpse way earlier.
spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 2 weeks ago
We should’ve never let the psychotic zombie making fucks at EA buy any of these studios in the first place.
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
that, is exactly it.
gressen@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
We’ll build our own BioWare! With blackjack! And hookers!
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 weeks ago
But unfortunately without the IP
gressen@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Let’s just use AI and say that it’s fair use.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Surely copyright doesn’t last forever plus a day, and they will be released into the public domain in a timely manner.
Furbag@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Bioware was already rotting in the mass grave where formerly successful studios they bought spend their last days being milked of any remaining collective goodwill in the gaming zeitgeist before being summarily executed.
This was just them posting the obituary we all knew was coming.
ooo_shiny@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
Aw man. Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect, and OG Dragon Age saw me through some of my formative gaming years and it’s been a shame to watch since. I didn’t even bother with Veilguard.
Larian is our big shining hope for this kind of game now, it seems.
onceandfuturealice@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Tomorrow: “EA to acquire Larian in $100B deal”
Patariki@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
I suspected this would happen after the Saudi take-over. I haven’t played Veilguard, but i did see something about a non-binary character. I’d be very surprised if the saudi’s funded something progressive like that, even if it was poorly executed from what i’ve seen.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Thank God. I was worried a Saudi Kushner Mass Effect would create some kind of paradoxal tear in reality.
nullspace@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wait for an upcoming patch where they don’t change any of the actual content, but if you’re in a gay romance it just continually spawns hostile units every time you enter an area.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
At Bioware we’re constantly evolving with the times, and searching for ways to create exciting, dynamic new interactive experiences. That’s why we’re thrilled to announce the first new update to Mass Effect’s gameplay in 20 years! The Queer Death DLC introduces a brand new law enforcement agency to every visitable planet! Simply engage a same-sex romance to experience ultra detailed brutal new chase and death sequences!
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I play games to escape reality, not relive it.
kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Give it another 5 years and a different, more inept developer
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
But we don’t even have a goddamn Mr. Fantastic.
Patrikvo@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
My theory is that EA is actually secretly ran by Hollywood in a bid to get people back to watching movies and TV.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It’s ran by Saudis, they don’t like queer things.
blackshirt@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The Saudis who bought it don’t care about queer things, religion or morals. They only care about money.
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Game companies are reading the tea leaves.
AI bought all the ram
AI bought owns all the GPU
Any Game can be decoded and rewritten in fresh code via AI for the tiniest fraction of a salary. It will eventually be able to do it with performance.
New IP could maybe, possibly be generated by some designer/artist types for the cost of a couple salaries.
The client is in the enemy’s (our) hands.
All games must go back to Gaming as a Service
We won’t pay for gaming as a service.
No new affordable tech is coming to drive the industry, all games will need to shift to online only, AI may get good enough to make games for pennies.
The only part of gaming that survives this is indie developers that push past making shovelware with AI. AAA is cooked.
someguy3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Saudi Arabia bought it to diversify. They want success.
csolisr@hub.azkware.net 2 weeks ago
On one hand, hundreds of people without a job, but on the other hand, seeing one of the many companies I boycott on ethical principle bleeding money bolsters my resolveYoFrodo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I guess Exodus and the Expanse game will have to fill that void
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 weeks ago
I think good stories and corporations are at opposite ends. Corporations and the opposite of human, and thus can’t write good human relatable stories. They can’t make art. The more people in the room the more bland the outcome will be. Too much overhead - marking, advertisers, lawyers, HR, everyone. I think Bioware proves they can’t do it. I think smaller studios are the only ones really capable of it. The only outliers appear to be rockstar and CDPR, for the time being at least.
Dojan@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
I’d not heard of an Expanse game. I hope it features Shohreh Aghdashloo. I fucking love that woman.
rafoix@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
What void? The void of casual role playing games with bad gameplay and worse writing?
I don’t think that void needs to be filled. The last BioWare game I enjoyed was Mass Effect 2 in 2010.
YoFrodo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
ME2 is amazing and ME1 was great. 3 had good mechanics but worse writing, and Andromeda was terrible on many fronts but the ability to change your build on the fly was cool.
When I talk about Exodus and Expanse Im talking more about the style of third-person sci-fi RPGs with companions.
Hubi@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I really hope Exodus will live up to the expectations.
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I remember saying this when they were acquired and Anthem wasn’t even a sperm in Daddy EA yet.
EarMaster@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And that after the success the last Mass Effect game was…
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 weeks ago
They’ve had 3 flops in a row, and the worst part is that they did absolutely no learning from any of them. Each failed for the same reason. Bland boring story, no risks, souless worlds from the studio that was known for epic deep lore based worlds. As sad as I am, EA and Bioware did it to themselves.
Xerxos@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Everything EA touches loses its soul. EA was always this turbo-capitalist locust-plague of a company. ‘Consume and destroy’ is their unofficial company motto.
As soon as they bought Bioware it was just a matter of time.
ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Hey, I liked Andromeda! Maybe it just needed a few patches, I played it a few months after release and didn’t see any of the bugs I remember people posting about.
ms_lane@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Maybe it just needed a few patches,
I don’t think you patch out the idea of ‘exploring a new galaxy except someone else already did all the exploration for you’
Jiral@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I played it a good while after launch. I couldn’t find any of the goofy bugs by then and I did actually like the beginning of the game. But I felt the story was the strongest at the beginning and then it became a bit formulaic. Overall though I didn’t think it was a bad as some made it out to be but also not stellar of course.
DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Valve please acquire BioWare challenge (seriously, please acquire BioWare, Gaben)
SippyCup@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I just wanted one more mass effect. I guess it wasn’t nearly a far along as they’d teased.
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
When Saudi Arabia PIF and Jared Kushner bought EA, I expected something like this to eventually happen. They would want to prop up consumable yearly microtransactioned garbage over games with more moral dilemmas than their respective regimes are willing to tolerate…
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Mass Effect Citadel DLC was the final good product that Bioware made. It’s oddly prescient.
Been a damn good ride.
DementedSociety@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They’ve lost me as customer. Didn’t buy the BF either.
lazymoose@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They should make that failure of a game, Anthem, open source. No money to be made there. Make it so everyone knows just how bad. As an example of a terrible game and assuming terrible source code. Only 1 way to find out. I’m not still hopeful that it has huge potential. Nope nope nope.
trainsrkool@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
not gud enough, ea needs to BURN
Jiral@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Is there another gambling company that has as hobby mass murdering game studios? Or is EA rather unique in that?
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In other news, EA is alergic to money; explaining decades of canceled work, half baked releases, and other poor decisions.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The masses were uneffected!
mHtt@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
ill never forgive EA for destroying westwood studios and maxis,
FUCK EA
ummthatguy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
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Fuck. Now I have to add Bioware to the pile.
mHtt@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
i mean are you TRYING TO HURT ME!?!
feinstruktur@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Damn it. What’s the first one again? I instantly remember the feeling playing this game, but I can’t remember…
Soulphite@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
EA is exactly the republican party. Destroy everything they touch with loads of bigotry and sheer incompetence.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Are EA bigots? They have always been the epitome of amoral capitalism in the gaming world to me
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
The bigotry is probably a new thing for them then because at least back in the day they didn’t give a fuck as long as it made money. Bioware games usually had LGB(perhaps not T, don’t remember any) characters, often as romance options and I recall racial justice being a theme in both Mass Effect and Dragon Age games.
But I suspect the new owners don’t really want you to infect anyone with the gays™
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Good news is that EA self-destructed in the Saudi deal so a few guys at the top could fill their pockets one more time. The debt they loaded EA with will be paid by selling everything. There is no other way. EA can no longer operate and their IPs will go to different studios. Let‘s hope one or two of them treat the franchises a tiny bit more carefully. Maybe. Or it will all be AI slop. Time will tell. But the way I see it EA is toast.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Generals 2 was in the make. There was a promo gameplay video. They fucking canceled it. I’ll never forgive them for it.
Litteraly everything they touch, they kill. Either they cancel it or it becomes a pay to win gambling platform which lacks actual content. Enshitification Assholes.
Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
i am also never forgiving EA for killing Renderware