Fuck you Whatsapp

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨gzgz@lemmy.zip⁩ to ⁨mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world⁩

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Fucking morons. I’ve been looking for a new apartment and messaging a ton of real estate agents lately, and WhatsApp just decided to block me for ‘suspicious activity.’ They already restricted my account a couple of days ago, and I almost missed an apartment viewing because of it. And I‘ve already done that for three moves before with zero issues. I live in a country where literally all communication with real estate agents happens on WhatsApp, so now I’ll have to go out tomorrow and get a whole new phone number if they don’t unblock me or Im gonna end up on the street. Fucking morons. Fuck you, Crapsapp, and your piece-of-shit messenger

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Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Welp, here’s the thing. Real estate agents typically like getting paid. So I figure if you tell them “Hey, I don’t have whatsapp. Let’s email or text instead.”, they would do it, because a sale is a sale. They aren’t agreeing to give anything up. And it’s a very temporary situation from their perspective.

Also, I find it wild that meta (facebook), which owns whatsapp, controls the platform that an entire country relies on for any communication within an industry that dictates where you live. That is crazy. That feels like a lot of corruption must have had to happen for that to have happened.

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- blitzen@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  WhatsApp has market share from the momentum gained in countries that didn’t have free/cheap SMS. I too find it wild that it’s the default in most of the world, and it’s super shady and super proprietary. The messaging that we have in the US is far far far from perfect, but at least it’s not Facebook Chat.
  
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  - Mannimarco@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Also, that momentum was gained before whatsapp was bought by Facebook
    
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  - daggermoon@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    If we could just get people to use Signal.
    
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  - BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Plus in markets like Brazil, having unlimited use of WhatsApp services, including video calls, is a selling point for most cellular providers. You will have a data cap but could still video call your grandma on WhatsApp when you’re out of data. Every business has their WhatsApp number posted out front and on their websites/social media.
    
    For example, here is Claro, a large Brazilian phone company’s cheapest current plan, 36GB of data but unlimited WhatsApp usage and 5GB for social media.
    
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  - Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    isnt wechat popular in asia.
    
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- zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  If you have 100 applications per apartment and only one wants to do it via e-mail, then we both know what’s going to happen.
  
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  - HerbGrower@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I am so glad when I was looking for a house they were desperate to find buyers. I should have made them jump through hoops just to agree to look at a house.
    
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- gzgz@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  In the country I live you can‘t pay to real estate agents (it‘s prohibited). They are getting paid by the landlords, plus the rental market is pretty scarce so usually they don‘t give a fuck about you as they have a ton of inquiries from potential renters
  
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  - observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Effectively, they are getting paid by you, landlords factors that fee into the rent. But I get the point that the market favours landlords where you live and you might not have the privilege to ask for accommodations like communicating over SMS. This WhatsApp situation is fucked up, that your basic life functionality depends on a single unaccountable commercial entity.
    
    My practical advice would be to buy an eSIM with a new number, there are very cheap options (like one used for travel) and you would practically need it just one time to get a verification code.
    
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- echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  They’re also typically the laziest people in the world. The hate to expend any amount of effort and they don’t get much from commissions if it’s a rental.
  
  When I was buying my house it took the sellers 5 months to sort out the paperwork. It took them any half a year to process the purchase of a single house.
  
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okwhateverdude@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
> drink verification can

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- Nugscree@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Don’t forget to do the dance
  
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Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
That’s actually infuriating. The fact that the real estate landacape is based on Whatsapp should just be illegal. Don’t agree with whatsapp T&C? Go homeless. Do we need to remind who is whatsapp?

Same with cellular providers giving unlimited data on Whatsapp on a 25GB plan. Straight to jail.

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- XeroxCool@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Turns out, most of the globe is still charging out the ass for texting. It throws me off when hotels still closely guard their wifi and/or use access tokens.
  
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- michaelalf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Fuck Meta… What’s wrong with email, you’re free to choose your provider, and it’s more convenient than a mess of WhatsApp messages. All communication I’ve had with real estate agents in Australia has been via email.
  
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  - LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Second them I saw Meta mentioned here, did Meta buy WhatsApp?
    
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breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’ve proud of you for just being mildly infuriated about this. I’d be pure rage monster. You’ve got the patience of a saint!

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- psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  A lot of mildly infuriating content is mostly infuriating but posted here due to the lack of extremely infuriating community. So post like this have the “dumbledore asked calmly” vibe.
  
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  - breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    For sure. I wasn’t talking shit. Just commiserating about how burn-the-city-down infuriating this is in a jokey way.
    
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  - idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    !actually_infuriating@lemmy.world
    
    We have a small comm there, we should start to use it.
    
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Leather@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Pal, you’re a few decades late to the Facebook sucks conversation.

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- stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Decades?
  
  Facebook was launched in 2004, and I don’t remember any large movement against them in 2006, that only really started going mainstream with the 2019 Facebook-Cambridge Analytica scandal.
  
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  - jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    No, it started before that where employers were asking for things like your Facebook page. Now they are requiring a LinkedIn profile. Everyone requires your phone number to register with their service. Then they can arbitrarily decide to ban you from their service. There should be massive lawsuits about this.
    
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  - Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yes, and it was obvious then what a shit show it was.
    
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  - Leather@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    That is exactly my point, Facebook sucked from round about it’s existence! You nailed it!
    
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LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Are you copy-pasting the same message across many chats? If so, try varying them a little.
Infuriating, I know.

The thing is, Meta is changing how they price messages sent on the WhatsApp Business API (they’ll start charging for every single message now) and as such they’ve gone haywire trying to catch and ban unofficial WhatsApp Automation APIs.
If you send the same message across a couple contacts it’s already enough to flag you. And if you’re using WhatsApp Web it’s even worse.

I too wish my country’s communications wasn’t so Intertwined with this garbage.

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- rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I was looking at visiting Costa Rica for a bit, read that even restaurants were using WA for orders. I couldn’t imagine relaying on Facebook’s company policy for my business
  
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tempest@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
This is the reason you don’t ‘sign in with Google’ or Meta or whatever.

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- tias@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  This is the reason digital infrastructure should be controlled by the commons. And punishment for misbehaving users should be decided by the state according to due process in a procedurally fair manner, not by corporations that seek to maximize profits.
  
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  - Nugscree@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I agree that is should just be a part of infrastructure like roads, but I’m not sure about the punishment. As long as people are prosecuted by local laws of residence, e.g. the laws might differ in my home country from the place you live. I don’t want to be judged by the puritan laws of the USA, which seem to be sliding backwards into what the christian religion says is okay. But we should take control away from the mega corporations before it is too late to do anything about it.
    
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- MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Any email provider could do this
  
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  - WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    smaller providers are not so brave and quick with bans, or it would hurt their image. big providers don’t need to care about their image anymore.
    
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LordCrom@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Since when did real estate parasites, I mean agents, stop taking phone calls?

I get 3 cold calls a day from agents asking if I want to sell.

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- Jarix@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Different countries different communication networks. A while back Facebook was internet lots of countries because it was a way to get online in those places.
  
  World is a weird place sometimes
  
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- Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  out here they moved into television ads. only way to shut them up is a mute button
  
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nitroemdash@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Spam their public corporate accounts with complaints, in public comments. That’s the only way.

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RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
You’re absolutely sure they won’t take a phone call about a quarter million dollar sale or whatever?

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- gzgz@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yes I can call, but it‘s much less preferred as I‘m not a native speaker and it‘s easier for me to communicate in a written form, plus our timings can be different. Anyway I‘m not buying a house, I‘m just looking for a rental apartment, and in the country I live you can‘t pay to real estate agents for this purpose (it‘s prohibited). They are getting paid by the landlords instead, plus the rental market is pretty scarce so usually they don‘t give a fuck about you as they have a ton of inquiries from other potential renters
  
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  - tal@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’d just SMS them and see if they respond. I mean, you’re setting up a viewing. That shouldn’t take that many messages.
    
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itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Yep this has been happening to me as well. I really want everyone to start using Signal but trying to convince people is like pulling teeth. It’s infuriating. WhatsApp fucking sucks.

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- tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I downloaded whatsapp because one friend back home used it and within the same day I was getting spam texts for the first time ever. Fortunately I convinced him to switch to signal and deleted that shit asap
  
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Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
META wants more data from you, i would ditch the app.

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danielfm123@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
We need to de couple from big tech before it’s too late.

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- deft@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  There will only be big tech. It takes a lot of finances and relationships to even have a tech industry you’ll never have a mom and pop tech industry.
  
  We need better politicians to deal with this shit
  
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HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
My 6 year old snap account for banned for “prohibited drug content” I’m Canadian and all I’ve ever done is share videos of me blazing to friends. Thankfully I have contact with the people that mattered via other means, still doesnt mean it doesn’t suck

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Kazel@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
no remorse for people still using wa

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- LwL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Guess OP should just go homeless lol
  
  Imagine reading the post before leaving a judgemental comment
  
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- aloofPenguin@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  it’s just a shame that a majority of the world uses it for communicatiom. My family switched to Signal a few years ago, but had to switch back to WA because we had to talk to the relatives who were still on WA. too many of them to convince to switch to Signal, and unlikely to work even if we tried. similar to OP, not all are tech savvy but can use WA. I tried getting my family to go back to signal, but no dice. eventually I gave up.
  
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  - naught101@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I badgered mine repeatedly for years and now basically everyone I know is on it.
    
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cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
This is the fault if everyone who let monopolistic proprietary tech become important. Basically everyone.

So I’m just gonna laugh at rhisshit, because it was earned and I told you so.

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- 5gruel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I bet it is fun to ignore the reality of things to be an condescending asshole to people on the internet.
  
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  - plyth@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    ignore the reality of things
    
    The reality is that Meta is in a position of power that is a threat. Society is ignorant about it. A little bit condescencion from the high road should be considered helpful.
    
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  - cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Sorry I gave a shit too early and have memory retention better than a carnival goldfish.
    
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- prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  This is the fault if everyone who let monopolistic proprietary tech become important. Basically everyone.
  
  That includes you
  
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innermachine@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
What country are u in that u have to go through whatsapp? Have only ever used my personal cell for stuff like this, if I have to download an app to do something you can bet I ain’t doing it lol. If there’s anything I have learned its that if it needs an app, it doesn’t fucking work.

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- bridgeburner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Could be germany. WhatsApp is very widely used here, because back then in the olden days SMS flat rate was expensive. And WhatsApp was ideal, because it worked even on throttled data rates, so you could use it even if you ran out of data. So making it basically a free alternative to SMS.
  
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  - innermachine@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Interesting! I didn’t even have a phone with data until after the unlimited minutes and texts were standard on most plans lol.
    
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japemasterBrad@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’m hoping the age of self hosted chat platforms comes to fruition and I can get Meta the fuck out of my life, but it’s currently a hard sell between by friends

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titanicx@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
God what’s up sucks I hate it like so much anytime any of my clients request that I use what’s happened just makes me cringe so fucking much. Just let me text you like a normal person rather than using some third party bullshit app.

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- ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  My weed dealer a few years ago got all paranoid and made his buyers start contacting him with WhatsApp. “It’s encrypted and completely secure!” Lol sure. It’s weird that the only other person who has ever made me use it was my realtor.
  
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nanometer1625@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
My take on this one (as a prospective home buyer) is that I don’t want to have to deal with real estate agents at all, particularly if they demand to be paid on commission. When they’re laid on commission, they benefit by being lazy and not attempting to negotiate down the price of the home.

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JATtho@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I said whatsapp is not safe once. Glad (and horrified) to see I was correct. P2P encryption means nothing if the clients just report the data out via a side-channel once decrypted.

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Kissaki@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’d tell that to every company I’m in contact with there. If that’s their platform they surely want it to work reliably.

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desmosthenes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
fuck fb - also kinda waited to the last minute to find a new place, no? hope things works out for you

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herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Use Telegram, Signal, SimpleX, Matrix or one of the other alternatives…

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- Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Reading comprension of a fungus
  
  I live in a country where literally all communication with real estate agents happens on WhatsApp
  
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  - herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You can change things. I moved many of my friends and family from WhatsApp to Telegram.
    
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Leviathan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
This happening eventually is why we switched all our convos to signal last year.

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