Fuck this noise. Milk Nazis and fascists.
Finally an explanation
Submitted 18 hours ago by Godric@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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makeshift0546@lemmy.today 12 hours ago
Agent641@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
“So MuCh FoR tHe ToLeRaNt LeFt!!”
Pictured: Antifa social group, North Africa club, 1943
Techranger@infosec.pub 10 hours ago
Those Nazis really get my goat!
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
So much for the tolerant left…
Motherfuckers, you labeled me as tolerant because I don’t hate people for immutable characteristics they were born with. That doesn’t mean I’m tolerant of nazis maga traitors.
jamesrandysghost@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
Tolerance paradox is the only way forward. They deserve no quarter.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
And if they don’t like this, there’s always the super easily, highly convenient solution of NOT BEING A NAZI.
YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
But that’s not fair my skin is white and that means I’m important because insert fascist leader said so.
Rooskie91@discuss.online 7 hours ago
Hey now! Just look at history and you’ll see how often non-violence works! Like for instance checks notes …uh oh frantically flipping through notes guys, oh no!
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
Nah, they should be treated the way they treat others.
Nazis are the only group that deserve to be gassed.
TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
Hooray
Let’s all have barbecue afterwards because these fucks don’t get to put a stain on our day
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 11 hours ago
Barbeque the Naizis ALIIIVE!
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
A trial with due process is key. But, they’d need to be kicked out of power, first. Somehow. Because Nazis won’t convict Nazis, obviously.
I’m not looking forward to what happens if they steal the mid-terms.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
But we must always focus on our goal of minimizing suffering. The path to evil comes when we focus more on us vs them and hurting the enemy than we are on building a better world. Fetishization of violence is a dangerous path.
I lament that I believe that violence and public executions are necessary, but I do. But I also don’t believe it’s sufficient. We must also build a better world.
Zwiebel@feddit.org 12 hours ago
Reign of Terror ass motherfucker
makeshift0546@lemmy.today 12 hours ago
#2 electric boogaloo
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I for one can’t wait to see who the modern John C Woods will be
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
Everyone deserves to be treated exactly the way they treat others.
So be racist to racists. Exploit the rich. And kill all Nazis.
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
A system of fair rules does not always lead to fair outcomes, if the rules don’t accommodate the asymmetry in capacity, motivation, resources, etc.
jamesrandysghost@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
Tolerance paradox in action!
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
I remember being told it makes more sense when you realize it’s a part of the social contract. Breaching it prevents you from taking part in it.
wpb@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Blatant flaw in this: I don’t want to murder anyone. I don’t want to rape anyone. I don’t want to be racist to anyone (though I acknowledge I am). And the moment I would do something like that to anyone, I would be a murderer or a rapist, and that’s a shitty thing to be. So no thanks.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 hours ago
It’s just an endless line of good intentioned rapists.
ghen@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Yeah, also, I’d like my moral reasoning to have evolved past Hammurabi.
D_C@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
I’ll allow you to call me bad if I’m also allowed to drop billionaires, the trillionaire, selected world leaders, and most of the Epstein class in to a woodchipper. It only seems fair.
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
What is more important: considering yourself a good person, or materially benefiting the world?
I’ll take option 2, thanks. Woodchippers! GET YOUR WOODCHIPPERS HERE!!
echodot@feddit.uk 13 hours ago
Quite a severe lack of intellectual rigour is going on there. If nothing happens to bad people then they’ll keep being bad people. The difference between the bad people and the good people is that the bad people do bad things because they like it. Good people do bad things to stop bad people from being bad people and doing bad things.
If you like the bad people do bad things because you’re a good person and as a good person you don’t do bad things then the bad things may as well be done by the good people. It’s all the same.
nodiratime@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Light went after people in the prison system or suspected of being criminals, without ever doubting the justness of the system in any way. He is useful idiot, delusional agent of the system or megalomaniacal bootlicker. Choose your pick.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I mean, wasnt he being led by a literal trickster demon…?
Senal@programming.dev 10 hours ago
The problem with most things that use good and bad as a foundation is that they never account for perspective.
Good and bad are made up and subjective.
If you don’t account for that in your positions then you’re setting yourself up for fundamentalism.
echodot@feddit.uk 10 hours ago
Absolutely I am merely responding with the same level of intellectualism as the original comment.
If we can’t even get as far as sometimes violence is necessary bey absolutism is a useless philosophy, then there’s no point getting into nuance.
edible_funk@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I don’t think good and bad are that subjective. You can get into the weeds but it can be pretty well boiled down to “treat others the way you want them to treat you” is good and “treat others in a way you wouldn’t want them to treat you” is bad. We’re social creatures, we have to live in societies, and it’s not difficult to determine pro social vs anti social behaviors.
rarWars@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
Ok, but you do realize you can punish someone without killing, right? It doesn’t have to be all or nothing. Bad people can be prevented from doing more bad things without any blood being shed.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 hours ago
You can try but look what happened when we didn’t finish off the slavers and the Nazis. They linger on until an orange shitstain comes along and empowers them.
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
That’s why America has so many “good guys with guns”.
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
That whole idea is poorly thought out. In the split second of danger presented in the situation where a good guy with a gun could stop something, no one has any idea what is happening or why or to who and the decision must be made in seconds. No wonder good guy with gun doesn’t just start blasting. If their goal is to not hurt good people, blasting away is a good way to hurt Innocents.
Not to mention, people don’t like getting shot themselves.
core@leminal.space 10 hours ago
What is good or bad? Whats bad on one side is good on the other. Both sides are good with the other side bad, from their point of view. With no objective good or bad, neither is, and morality means nothing so you can do anything with a clear conscience.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
With no objective good or bad
Where do pedophilia and rape fall in your intellectually lazy, moral relativism argument? What about freeing enslaved people?
Saying there is no objective good or bad only shows your lack of moral convictions.
Techranger@infosec.pub 10 hours ago
Are you going to apply this logic to the activities which took place on Epstein Island?
echodot@feddit.uk 9 hours ago
Sorry but that’s irrelevant. Who personally views themselves as good and bad isn’t relevant to how I apply your logic from my perspective.
The danger comes in thinking that everything you do is good simply because you do it.
You shouldn’t hurt people if you don’t have to but that’s not the same as saying that violence should be avoided at all costs and that it’s never useful, or even ultimately the lesser evil.
I have a problem with these absolutists the tried to suggest that the situation should never be taken into account and that violence is always bad. It’s intellectually dishonest and it’s naive.
Saapas@piefed.zip 16 hours ago
I mean, what if the Bad People are N
mech@feddit.org 15 hours ago
Unpopular opinion:
Universal human rights apply to all humans, including Nazis.
Dehumanizing people and denying them their human rights is what Nazis do.echodot@feddit.uk 13 hours ago
Nazis do have human rights. Including the right to be punished for their actions. Just like everyone else.
But if the governments don’t punish them for their actions then don’t be surprised if people take matters into their own hands. Which again, what happened to any group of people that were perceived as having too much power and being given too much leeway by the government, regardless of political beliefs.
desra@lemmy.vg 13 hours ago
I’ll agree this should be an unpopular opinion. When they deny the rights of others, they forfeit their own.
Society is generally based on social contracts regarding human decency, respect and what apparently are more extreme ideas like compassion and empathy. It’s an agreement to be a part of a community, not to exploit it for selfish gain. If they want to do that, at the very least they should be exiled and allowed only care about themselves by themselves.
We need to stop tolerating intolerance. If you’re harmful to our species letalone our planet that we share with so many others, part present and future, ostracize or eradicate. This high road shit has gotten use nowhere in the entirety of our planets history but right here where monsters are allowed and encouraged to reign.
I’ll also agree to step up to the chopping block if it means I take some of these assholes to hell hand in hand with me.
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
“Universal” human rights can be forfeited by the individual by attempting to restrict another’s rights.
Done and done.
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
Lets debate the SS in the marketplace of ideas…
s@piefed.world 12 hours ago
Trolley problem — save the human rights of billions by sacrificing the human rights of the few who want to tie all of these people to the trolley tracks
TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
It is sad for us to have to go through such trauma but violently murdering fascists is not dehumanizing. We are honouring them by believing the true extent of their evil, respecting their decision by reacting truthful to reality. It’s inhumane to let such sick individuals believe they might be right, when they believe in power being absolute. Natural order is what they want, why deny them?
ButteredBread@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
Not that I don’t agree but if I was a nazi i would prefer to die anyways. Even if I didn’t get killed my cellmates would probs kill me unless im isolated which is… even worse. Besides if I ever realized how messed up that was i would probs kill myself but idk how likely that is.
Saapas@piefed.zip 14 hours ago
Doesn’t seem like a very unpopular opinion tbh
gurty@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
“Everyone I don’t agree with is a nazi therefore I am justified”
Saapas@piefed.zip 15 hours ago
That’s the flipside, but also, some people are Nazis
Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
this is a poorly cropped repost from tumblr, there is no critical thinking here.
bizarroland@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Which is funny because if people listened to what you said and followed your instructions, then there literally would be no critical thinking here. Whereas if you choose to utilize critical thinking, you would not actually dismiss this thing entirely simply because it came from Tumblr because that is a logical fallacy called poisoning the well.
And if all it took to stop critical thinking for anybody was just saying, oh it comes from a bad place, then nobody would ever really do any critical thinking, right?
So let’s ignore where it comes from and talk about the topic that’s actually being presented, ok?
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 14 hours ago
I mean, I know we should not generalize, but the Epstein class are bad people who deserve to be murdered in awful suffering.
It’s rare to see someone wno is evil without a doubt, but anyone from the Epstein class is one.
FishFace@piefed.social 13 hours ago
Who are “the Epstein class”? Just Epstein and Ghislaine? Just the rapists? Everyone in the files?
Seems like, whatever the punishment, you still need a process to determine guilt according to the evidence, rather than trial by public opinion.
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I’ll settle for “anyone accused of any wrongdoing in the Epstein files in any manner.”
We can sort through the gritty details afterwards and apologize to the single person that was wrongly accused.
TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
I dunno just making a list for people that are apologetic about it, positive towards it, partial to the acts or on the receiving end of a cashflow would be just insta killable if I was suddenly dictator of the world
baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 14 hours ago
People that treat people as things deserve the same courtesy.
blindbunny@lemmy.ml 7 hours ago
I feel this way about cops, land lords and billionaires. Tbf tho if those didn’t exist the world would be a much better place.
Wataba@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
Guilt tripping is a tactic often used by the abuser to control the abusued.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
.ml in a nutshell.
DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 6 hours ago
Been a while since I watched Death Note, but did Light brutally murder people? I thought it was mostly heart attacks, which was the default way for someone to die unless otherwise specified.
nullspace@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
He killed innocents to avoid prosecution.
DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 2 hours ago
That I do remember. I just assumed that was also via heart attacks. Either way, still an evil act.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Even if he hadn’t caused a variety of deaths in a variety of ways, I think causing a variety of heart attacks still counts as brutally murdering people
andros_rex@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
The elaborate bus jacking was pretty violent. I think he also had some prisoners do things like write messages in their own blood when he was testing the notebook out.
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 15 hours ago
I think we should defend ourselves against the bourgeouise 🙋
MissyBee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 hours ago
There is no war but class war.
lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Yarrr, it be a good shitpost. Stupid, provocative …
cally@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
Light Yagami would say that
Zacryon@feddit.org 13 hours ago
State of many discussions about Gaza, Israel, Ukraine and Russia here on Lemmy.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
Yeah, anyone who commits genocide is a Bad Person who needs to be stopped, and murder works.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
This unironically
SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 hours ago
Sounds like something Bad Person would say.
Iceman@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
There are two types or pacifist: pointless or dead. Good job bozo
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 16 hours ago
Kira vs. Columbo is a great skit.
trslim@pawb.social 13 hours ago
Shadiversity and his awful awful book in a nutshell.
thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 15 hours ago
We are all just apparati of systems. The system is bad, but some people stand in the way of ending the system.
Natanael@slrpnk.net 16 hours ago
Good and bad are defined both by actions and by their justifications. Not entirely by either alone. Somebody who accidentally does bad continously because they’re incompetent or not putting enough effort in still needs to be stopped. Somebody who accidentally does good can still be dangerous to you.
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 hours ago
Quality shit post, dung beetle certified
Phantaloons@piefed.zip 13 hours ago
Yeah, but… Kirk tho.
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Yes, thank you Elon, we’ve heard it all before.
Shanmugha@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Only thing is… how does anyone survive without seeing there are no absu-fucking-lutely-good or absu-fucking-lutely-bad people who never ever did anything bad/good respectively?
Doesn’t mean I would let just anyone live, but does mean that none of this good/bad nonsense is actually real. Guess not enough people have been kicked by a swing
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Everyone seems to think like this though so what right have we to laugh at him? Furthermore maybe it is better that we all embrace the fact we’re spoiled little animals who hold our own priviliges in higher regards than everyone else’s, rather than becoming detached and objective rule followers, deniers of our own feelings.
tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 16 hours ago
I don’t think anyone should be violently murdered actually 🙋♂️
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Lemmy in a nutshell