Nuclear power is just steampunk with magic rocks.
power generator
Submitted 2 months ago by pico@sh.itjust.works to [deleted]
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FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
4am@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Spicy rocks
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Too spicy for Ukraine, circa 1986.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
So spicy they make everything around them spicy.
kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
I actually don’t know why people get so hung up on this. When you are making energy it’s easiest to make heat, and boiling water through a turbine is a really efficient way to turn heat into motion and we’re really good at doing it and turning motion into electricity. The fact that multiple ways of making heat exist is not surprising, the fact that different methods of making heat use the same, most efficient, well understood method for turning heat into electricity is even less surprising.
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Because it feels archaic and inefficient, maybe?
We also have developed solar panels, wind turbines, hydro-electric dams as well as tidal/wave energy devices in the intervening years - so adding another method to boil water just feels “outdated”.
I’m not trying to cast judgement myself, just trying to explain that it feels like it’s just “vibes based”.
rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Take a look at a modern supercritical steam turbine, this thing can run on 600C steam. there’s nothing archaic about it (it can be more efficient as a part of combined cycle)
Hydropower and windmills are older than steam
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
I had an idea for a dumb Star Trek meme, based on the episode where they explain how Romulan warp drives work, but extrapolating that to “it boils water and spins a turbine”. Maybe one of the Star Trek memers can take this and run with it?
vithigar@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Three of your four examples are already outputting mechanical energy of motion so don’t need the intervening conversion step provided by steam.
ch00f@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The problem is there’s an upper limit on how much useful energy you can extract from a heat engine.
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
AND that can maintain absolute Zero on that cold side. Getting heat to leave into the void at those temps is a battle
frank@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
I’m an EE by schooling and I’ve worked in both gas turbine and wind power. Photovoltaics blow my fucking mind. Everything else is just spinning magnets to extract power. PVs are insanely cool
marcos@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Take a look at reverse electro-dialysis.
It’s pushing thermal energy into electricity directly by the force of entropy.
frank@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Yeah, it’s a super rad tech! A bit pricey but a neat renewable that almost generates opposite to solar in a way, in that if it’s raining you’re getting some energy in the form of fresh water
Can you ELI10 an intuitive explanation on why the salinity gradient provides energy? It doesn’t make intuitive sense to me and never has. Like why is fresh water mixing with salt water energy positive?
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Your name makes me think you’re about to lather your own naked body in vasoline, and hide inside the couch.
frank@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
I’m known to lather a bit, as a treat.
Rooskie91@discuss.online 2 months ago
Personally, I like the mirror plants that use the suns energy to superheat salt.
And then use that to boil water. /s
For real, what China is doing with PVs is pretty fucking cool.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Where wind
Klox@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Step 1: boil the ocean
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Isn’t that was unchecked capitalism is already doing?
danekrae@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Boiling water, obviously!
5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org 2 months ago
No, wind is spinning magnets. Everything except photovoltaics and fuel cells is spinning magnets. (Everything with boiling water is also spinning magnets)
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s also due to water being boiled. Just in a different, many steps removed manner.
pennomi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The new supercritical CO2 generators are pretty cool. Pretty much the same thing but no water!
chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Those systems are interesting, but also nightmares to build and maintain.
Supercritical co2 is a powerful solvent and can corrode most metals.this problem is worse when you increase the temperature.
Material scientists are working on it, but so far, the few test systems that have been built can’t quite live up to the hype.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
“I have an idea for a comic!”
“Is it you getting angry and sulking on the couch?”
cornshark@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What’s the original comic?
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 months ago
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Well when you invent a new way to convert rotational energy into multi-phase AC please let us all know
Goodeye8@piefed.social 2 months ago
Explosions?
ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Fuck I forgot about internal combustion…
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Boiler water and spin magnets
Zwiebel@feddit.org 2 months ago
Lorents force go wheeeee
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Turbine go vrrrrrr
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Can’t wait for fusion and magnetic hydrogen.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
The idea …
Send water on a 150 million kilometer pipeline to the sun to super heat it … then pipe the steam back to power a turbine
nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Baby Dyson Sphere go brrr
lime@feddit.nu 2 months ago
dyson tube
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Dyson Straw.
tempest@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
What if the pipeline already existed… But it was made of light
JoShmoe@ani.social 2 months ago
Shut up science
danekrae@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Image
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Wouldn’t even need to run it out that far and we don’t have the material science to handle temperatures near the sun.
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
this is just the inverse of concentrated solar. you bring the pipe closer to the light rather than bringing the light closer to the pipe.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
You’re not invited to the team building the Solar Dyson Tube Project
_stranger_@lemmy.world 2 months ago
new idea, we bring the sun closer to the Earth, run everything on boiling rock.
myotheraccount@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The pipe can double as a space elevator