Submitted 1 week ago by early_riser@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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This guy will have to wait for his younger brother.
It was available to buy starting noon local time. I refreshed the page until the buy option became available, but kept getting an error when submitting payment. Waited about half an hour and now it’s sold out. Ni modo I guess.
Just give it a week and they’ll be back in stock.
Ah, one of the dozen people who actually liked the original Steam controller! A rare sight indeed.
I actually didn’t like it very much. Had to dig it out of a drawer for this photo. The face buttons are in an awkward position and the left trackpad is a terrible D-pad substitute. But I loved the gyro, and if it didn’t invent grip buttons it was my first exposure to them at least, and both MS and Nintendo liked them, too, since the Xbox elite controller and switch 2 pro controller have them. I saw the potential and looked forward to Valve improving it, and by all accounts this new iteration is an improvement.
I’m also a sucker for mold-breaking attempts at better ergonomics. I own a Twiddler. Still can’t get the hang of it, but nothing ventured nothing gained.
if it didn’t invent grip buttons it was my first exposure to them
Ironically, I think it was those very buttons that infringed on a preexisting patent and led to Valve getting sued
why is today reminisce about projector day?
I used the OG steam controller when I had a projector setup, I’d turn my office chair (that I used at home) around to look at the wall instead of the computer and use the virtual keyboard/mouse for films or watching stuff, or even playing games. Although it did take a lot to adapt to some which I preferred to use a regular controller. I forget if it was Just Cause 3/4 I played the shit out of with the steam controller or something else.
They did a hardware launch perfectly for the Deck - Account of minimum age needed, and a queue to buy as devices became available. Why the hell did they go with the old, shit version that only serves scalpers that use bots to scoop up every item?
Practically there wasn’t really a difference with the Steam Deck. You still had everyone rushing at the same time to get the deposit in. People got errors during the check out, just like this time and scalpers popped up immediately as well.
People got errors during the check out,
And? With the queue, people were able to continue submitting orders as things calmed down. There will always be a rush to be first. The queue handles it better by not outright denying those who didn’t make it in right away. This also reduces the FOMO that funds scalpers’ abuse of the system.
As for account age, it doesn’t really matter when it is set at - any limitation reduces the number of bots able to spam real users out of a purchase. Admittedly, that only really helps if there’s also a limit on number of units bought, which I don’t think was implemented this time, either, for whatever reason.
I have mine still. Bought it at launch. Never went back. Best controller I’ve ever had the pleasure to use. I genuinly LOVE everything about it. I don’t even want the new one.
Can’t improve upon perfection
… except for the rumble. Worst rumble by far, holy shit. But wonderfull controller otherwise, love mine so much.
I don’t really like much rumble to begin with so for me it’s great. But I can see why some don’t like it
Honestly I wish they had kept the upturned grips. Those felt really comfy.
I’ve had 2 different ones, and both got the “R1” button broken. It’s a pity because it’s the best controller I’ve ever used
I have repaired this myself at least 4 different times. The piece is so flimsy. Still love this controller.
I’ll sorry to hear that. I suppose I’ve been fortunate enough to never have any issues at all with mine. I will be a sad day when it gives up. I don’t think I could play Elden Ring with any other controller.
I’ve had mine not since launch, but for many years. I use it occasionally, mostly as a curiosity, but can’t reliably get used to it long term. Do you play many action games with it? I find 3D camera controls are too awkward for me.
So I use it mostly for soulsgames. I set up the right track pad as mouse. Like I’m rolling a ball that slows down. That’s just how I like it. And then I use the left track pad for moving. Left stick is my Dpad.
I also use the dual stage triggers a lot.
The only thing that appeals to me with the SC2 is having 4 back buttons. I love my OG, but I often struggle to decide upon where to bind CTRL or SHIFT modifiers. I like to use the existing back buttons for mode-shifting.
I recently setup my OG for playing Endless Sky. It’s wonderful. On a low-power arm64 machine as well.
Oof. That’s rough. But given how insanely profitable these ~90 minutes must have been for Valve, I’m sure they’ll be back in stock in a few weeks since none of the components seem to have supply issues.
I managed to get one by just spam-clicking the continue button for about two minutes. I know, I’m part of the problem.
I managed to get one by just spam-clicking the continue button for about two minutes. I know, I’m part of the problem.
I tried that too but stopped because I thought it might think I was a bot.
That’s what I feared, also I tried to buy from wallet instead of the card because of how bullshit my bank protection is (it often breaks on purchase page), so each refresh was really slow because of error animation playing and scrolling up constantly
I was getting an error as well. I saw someone on Reddit say they just spammed the “confirm” button and it eventually went through.
So I did that for like 10 min and it worked
Yeah giving up for 30 mins probably wasn’t the right move. You just keep trying even when it isn’t working at all. I’ve gotten some great concert tickets that way.
I genuinely don’t understand the hype beyond valve fanboyism. They already released a steam controller years ago and it was actually terrible, like there’s a reason no one else has even bothered to try and copy the track pad controller gimmick, because it’s just bad.
The main failure of the original controller was the lack of two thumbsticks (just like the PSP). While the track pads made a lot of PC games playable with a controller some games were worse with one thumbstick.
This controller fixes my main compliant, has a dedicated d-pad, and what looks like better track pads. So it’ll be perfect for playing around 90% of games with one controller.
This. The original Steam Controller did not meet the de-facto standard baseline for controller layout established by the first DualShock[^1] that games have learned to expect and build their control schemes around.
[^1]: Ignoring the analog button - which is not part of that “standard” because the software does not even need to acknowledge its existence - and the vibrations (which many controllers have, but are not required for input to work)
The Steam Controller 2 does have everything in that layout. It’s modeled after the Deck’s layout, which is quite good.
The original controller is pretty awesome. It was also really really cheap. I love them because it’s the only controller for playing games that were not designed for a controller.
The original controller was great for its innovation. Especially when you got used to it all.
However, the build quality was very lacklustre. The back paddle on mine died in about 200 hours of gaming. After I fixed that the shoulder button went after another 100 or so hours. Fixed that. But within about 500 hours it was totally dead.
Whereas the 2nd hand ds4 I got from eBay that I fitted with my custom made back paddles gave me 2000 hours of rocket league before I had to do any tinkering.
I did over 4000 hours of RL in total and only had to replace the left thumbstick and put o rings over the shoulder button internals.
Do I want the new steam controller, yes. Would I buy one, no.
The original controller was like a concept car, lots of new ideas but not every one was guaranteed to stick. Plenty of them did stick though, like grip buttons and gyro control. The new controller is a more conservative iteration that takes what worked and drops what didn’t while acknowledging why the industry converged on the standard button layout all the way back in the late 90s. That’s exactly the sort of innovation I want to see.
Gyro control is still just a gimmick, but grip buttons are decent I guess.
But it’s still combining a controller and a kbm and ending up being worse than either one individually. And there’s only a very limited niche where a steam controller could be better than either on its own.
Not sure if you’re trolling, or have been living under a rock. This new controller is the same as the Steam Deck layout, which has been extremely successful and well received.
The lack of twin thumbsticks are what killed the original.
This one is better, but aside from better trackpad placement, it doesn’t offer a lot above the PS5 controller, which a lot of people already have.
Still, they sold out, so mission successful I suppose. I’ve no doubt the same thing will happen when I try and get a Steam Frame.
I’ll also be waiting for a mext batch… the steam frame will be a nightmare to get if it’s like this too… i have close to 9 000 hours in steamVR i wish that would count for something when getting the new headset.
It does. You had your fun, now it’s time fit the 0 hours gang.
I really hope a lot of new people jump in and discover how truly incredible VR games are :)
Couple thousand hours on the og steam controller didn’t help me today.
I think the price will throttle demand a bit more with the frame.
My quest to not ever have one is right on track.
gitlab.steamos.cloud/…/SteamController
You can 3d print your own and play pretend!
Nah, I’m currently printing a undergravel for a six gallon round Koller fish tank. Much more fun.
if you can’t find one I’d recommend getting a ps5 controller instead: it at least has one trackpad and a gyro, and works well with steam input.
The PS5 DualSense is definitely the second-best choice if you can’t get a Steam controller. It has comparable features, although I personally feel like the touchpads are placed in suboptimal position compared to the Steam controller. It also has comparable build quality, unlike Microsoft’s various iterations of Xbox controllers that all have absolutely disastrous build quality.
dog help you when (not if) your dualsense gets stick drift tho
Yeah, I’m on my third. It’s fucking bullshit to be honest.
I’m a huge fan of the Dual Sense. Best haptics I’ve ever felt, awesome triggers, etc.
That said, the track pad on it isn’t at all comparable to the ones on the Deck (and I’m guessing this new controller).
Even if games did let you bind it to anything and use it as a mouse for FPS games (it doesn’t), the size and placement is super awkward for that use
Even if games did let you bind it to anything and use it as a mouse for FPS games (it doesn’t), the size and placement is super awkward for that use
steam input.
I barely managed to get one, had to spend well over 20 minutes spamming the continue button, because the first couple of times I passed that screen something else failed (they even charged me one of those times but the purchase didn’t finish, so I imagine it will get reverted in a while).
I liked my old steam controller more in theory than in practice, I still have it and use it occasionally but it’s more of a rarity when I think the features make up for the lack of d-pad and right stick. But the Steam Deck is just ideal for me, from the moment I grabbed it I have been wanting a standalone controller with that same format and inputs.
In any case, sorry you didn’t get one now, I’m sure they’ll be back in stock very quickly, it’s likely they did a small batch first to test the waters on how much people wanted this. But production is probably ramping up just like what happened with the Steam Deck.
They’ve released more in waves with other hardware. Just keep checking on the hour for the first few hours, keep subscribed to reddit/Lemmy subs of steam. Or stay up till 10pm, midnight and watch again tomorrow at the same time as this release.
It’ll be in stock again soon I’m certain. They’re gamepads, not limited edition Pokemon cards or super cutting edge HBM memory chips
Take it from me guys, I was the early adopter and my experience showed me that as great as they were, they suffered major build problems that were only exposed when in the hands of millions. The second round of builds were much better.
I have been drooling for this controller for years, but I’m more than happy to be patient this round.
For those wondering I went through 17. I have no reason to lie, I love them so much I only used them, but they broke so easily.
yeah, but that was their first experience with hardware like this. there have been 2 steam decks since then.
Yeah I’m not quite sure what meaning this would have. Kind of specious reasoning.
The controller and the deck are two completely different things.
Explains why my gen1 controller feels like shit. I never understood why people like them.
The haptics are worse than 90s 3rd party n64 controllers bought from a thrift store
the price point isn’t outrageous, but it’s not compelling when an Xbox controller can be bought for a third the price. Track-pads are nice, but people playing Steam are often sitting right next to a keyboard and mouse anyway.
As a steamdeck owner, the ability to use the trackpads to play old keyboard/mouse games without having to sit at a computer, is great. I’ve been playing a lot od Dungeon Siege and Baldur’s Gate 2, released in early 2000’s with mouse/keyboard in mind, and they both work flawlessly.
The new Steam Controller is a welcome addition because the old Steam Controller doesn’t have the same button and joystick layout, plus its missing buttons, compared to the steamdeck. So when you want to dock the steamdeck and play your favorite game on the TV in the livingroom, there’s no controller until now that matches what you’ve become accustomed to expecting with muscle memory, from playing on the steam deck.
Xbox controllers are bad. I have two with stick drift. The steam controller has TMR sticks. They should never drift as long as the springs don’t wear out. They also have a few other goodies. They are more comparable to the Xbox elite controller.
An xbox controller can be bought for a 3rd of the price
A used or older model one, maybe.
A new one is only $20 cheaper at $80.
Well, first of all an Xbox controller costs around 50 which is not a third of the price. Secondly the Xbox controller has literally less than half the inputs of the steam controller: Xbox controller has a d-pad, 2 joysticks, 2 triggers, 4 face buttons, 2 top buttons, play/pause buttons and the special power button; whereas the Steam controller also has 4 back buttons, 4 capacitive sensors, gyro, 2 trackpads (each of which on its own has a ridiculous amount of possibilities for usage) and 2 special buttons which are kinda irrelevant here. And that’s without mentioning the fact that TMR sticks are ridiculously better than traditional ones of the Xbox controller, or that the dongle works on a dedicated bandwidth instead of Bluetooth for the Xbox controller (because the dongle is sold separately I’m not considering it here, otherwise you need to add 20 to the total and then it’s DEFINITELY not a third of the price) so latency is much better.
Also, I’m not near a keyboard and mouse most of the time when playing, as I usually play on my TV. If I were near a mouse and keyboard I wouldn’t need a controller to begin with.
Whats the big deal with this controller anyway? I dont get it.
I retired the payment for about 15 times with 2 in my order basket, then it worked and should be here next week.
I still have one I never used. You can buy mine (I’m in the EU though). Send me a pm
I’m not sure if I’m weird or what but for me it only complained about me having a non-standard name and address and that I didn’t have enough funds in the Steam wallet it kept trying to use.
I guess I just got super lucky that I got the transaction to go through after only a minute of trying, a literal minute before the announced 10 am Pacific time opening.
I know. I was expecting issues, though. Steam pretty much always has issues with their site at the start of sales and new hardware launches, so this was entirely predictable.
On the flip side, every time this has happened when I was around to notice, there were obvious signs the site was failing from the get-go. Slow page loads, error messages, pages just not loading at all, etc. This time around, the site loaded up fine. Page navigation was quick as normal. Buttons worked. Cart worked. Checkout seemed to be working.
Then BAM. Error message when paying. I tried a few different payment methods and even checked on other devices.
So, I stepped away for a bit. Came back and I was surprised that the controllers were still in stock. Figured I’d try again. That time, I got a different error message when I attempted to pay. I thought maybe there’s something fishy with my cart/session so I removed the controller from my cart, expecting to re-add it and try checking out again. Only, when I went back to the controller page, it had flipped over to out of stock. It was literally only a matter of maybe 20 seconds since I’d last checked the page when it was showing as in stock. Missed it by that much.
Ni modo, we, ahi a la vuelta
Damn, I must have gotten lucky. I bought one around around 9:57 PST, no refreshed, no reloads, no issues. I’m sorry you missed out. Hopefully they’ll be in stock soon. I’ve got a friend that also missed out.
Oh, the picture is an old controller? What’s different about the new one?
lobut@lemmy.ca 6 days ago
DO NOT BUY THEM FROM EBAY!
or any other one of those websites … the resellers are scum and you’ve waited this long, you can wait longer! hold strong!
auzy1@lemmy.world 6 days ago
No point anyway. It’s not like they’re difficult to manufacture or constrained by available components.
nullify3112@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Don’t jinx us… we’re in the middle of a war, there are new tariffs every other day. I’m sure something could happen to the controllers supply chain.
Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de 6 days ago
Don’t jinx it!