The biggest thing to me is that the Soviets congratulated us on it.
The Soviet Union chose to go along with the fake moon landing instead of calling the USA out is the absolute dumbest part of the whole thing.
Witness
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prettybunnys@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, usually the Lizard people select world leaders from different clutches of eggs to ensure maximum competition and division among the human nations under them. Due to a malfunction in one of the incubators, Nixon’s egg hatched about seven years after Brezhnevs. During that time the same incubator hatched a separate clutch, among which Nixon was counted, which is why he was allowed to become the US president. Having not grown up together, they were still competitive, but little moments like the moon landing concession still occurred from time to time. Now that might sound unconvincing, but that’s only because I’m not an actual conspiracy theorist. I don’t have access to the deep lore and twisted logic therein.
Silic0n_Alph4@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No no, I’m convinced already.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Kubrick is that good a filmmaker
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Syncing the footage to real world events was a masterstroke
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Dude the flat earth people sent one of their leaders up into low orbit. When he came back and said the earth is round cuz he saw it, instead of believing him they just kicked him out. Some people are just beyond reason.
cevn@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Love that they have leaders, meaning people who have advanced more into idiocy than on average.
MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Bro, I’m a level 37 idiot, better show some respect!
elbiter@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
C’mon, they are flat fuckin earthers… What did you expect?
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
And of course even in this meme the ESA logo was omitted.
ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
ESA erasure is a crime.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 3 weeks ago
Meh, I’ll skip this Trump admin propaganda show.
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
He’ll definitely take credit, but he also tried to cut the budget for NASA. Congress insisted.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 3 weeks ago
He, and the GOP controlled congress, successfully cut budget for NASA an laid of tons of its staff, and he also insisted on launching new moon missions which currently isn’t even viable and Artemis II is nothing but a little airshow as they make a loop around in a big circle before returning.
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Have you seen the fucking 'Murica ads before launch? They literally justified and propagated US Exceptionalism by name and talked about how all of this (which they were at least nice enough to mention was a collab with ~50 other countries) creates jobs in America.
It was a god damn propaganda show.
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Pretty sure it takes a whole lot longer than a year to build a rocket.
This is a Biden rocket if anything.
xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
This moon program is supposed to be a step of the larger manned Mars program, which started during Obama. So t
Then IIRC Trump wanted to skip to Mars, despite reducing NASA funding and causing leadership issues in the agency during his first term.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 weeks ago
First of all, Trump’s been talking about a return to the moon since his first term almost a decade ago.
Second, the rocket is one thing, the stated goals of the agency are another. They’re declaring the plan is a permanent human presence on the moon.
Bacano@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
expensive propaganda show
JoShmoe@ani.social 3 weeks ago
The only way is to tie them to helium balloons and let them go uppie.
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Exactly, and the so-called “exhaust” is just a fog machine and light effects.
LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
You do not understand bow disbelief works if you think this is effective or even relative.
Yes, that does mean conspiracy theorists are fucking brainless morons.
Napster153@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Flat Earthers and anti-vaxxers really put into perspective the sorts of people the Scriptures talk about who are the same equivalent morons.
That being, people who are often dumb enough to get themselves annihilated despite ALL the evidence and warnings sent.
Stiggyman@ani.social 2 weeks ago
I watched the launch.
America
Why the fuck does your space agency shoot worse video of a historic event then a YouTube channel celebrating 100K subscribers.
Denjin@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Cutting to the crowd at the moment of booster separation was peak live event directing.
i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
My understanding was that it was a risky moment, they didn’t want to risk showing astronautes dying… But that doesn’t make sense since the same logic applies to most of the launch!
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My headcanon backstory for whoever made that decision is that they got kicked out of the porn industry for only showing the guys’ faces
Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I can’t get into details but I worked at a company that does video broadcast equipment and worked with NASA helping them update some systems. It was mostly garbage equipment. The company I worked for is the harley davidson of broadcasting equipment; was good in the past but modern competitors are objectively better but the brand recognition is still there from the old days.
LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
You try getting video from something that, within 30 minutes, accelerates to 18000 MPH. Literally, it will change what frequencies you even have to listen to, let alone the crazy amount of interference experienced during the process of exiting thr atmosphere.
chunes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s true but it doesn’t explain the black screen at liftoff and cutting to spectators during the booster separation.
kamen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The Moon landing was staged, but Stanley Kubrick wanted to film on location.
zeca@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
deeves@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Okay, here is what I believe:
I believe landing on the moon and a live video broadcast from the moon are two extremely different things.
I think they did have actors on a soundstage pantomime to the live audio being piped from the moon. Just cuts down on so many variables, and the stakes were too high for the broadcast to be a technical disaster.
I think that even despite that, the moon landing is still one of the greatest achievements of humanity.
TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
Nobody: “I was unconvinced by seven crewed missions to the Moon, but if they do an eighth then I’ll have no choice but to accept all of them.”
over_clox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Bleh, whether the trip is a success or not, do they have two functioning toilets?
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
well, one. and it clogged for a while today
but they do have two nonfunctioning instances of outlook, if that makes it better
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You could have just said two instances of Outlook
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No joke. If I ever tour a Lockheed Martin facility, I’ll make sure to use the bathroom before I go.
Akh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I get the sentiment but they are not landing on the moon
RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I won’t believe until I see live tik taks from the cheese world
cobysev@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
tik taks
As a middle-aged man who’s never used TikTok before, this is how I’m gonna refer to it from now on.
alt_xa_23@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
One of the funniest conspiracy theories I’ve seen is that “flat earth” is a CIA psyop to make other conspiracies look bad by association. (This came from a moon landing truther)
criscodisco@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s the thing with conspiracy theorists.
It’s conspiracies all the way down.
flamingleg@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
yes flat earthers are used by the social designers to ‘poison the well’. What’s so funny? it would be strange if they didn’t exploit (and cultivate) the immense stupidity of the median person. It makes the job of lying to them easier (and cheaper)
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Yeah but Trump said these astronauts are going “farther from earth than anyone ever has before,” tacitly admitting that we never sent astronauts to the moon in the 60’s and 70’s
elbiter@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
At this point, whatever Trump said is anything but proof of anything…
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I know you’re making a joke, but it’s a farther flyby around the moon than we did before. It’s an asinine statement by an asinine human being.
Teppa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It doesnt matter whether you win by an inch or win by a mile.
zeca@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Looking at footage is among the weakest arguments against flat earth tbh
Prizefighter@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
For April 1 I almost made a Flat Moon Society but I ended up playing Starfield and forgot about it. I wanted to see how far I could go with it.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Apparently not very far 🤣
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Does anyone know why the rocket needed to be “the most powerful” when it only got them out of Earths atmosphere? Is the crew module just that heavy that it needed it?
Zron@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Getting anything to the moon takes a lot of thrust.
Also because of having less stages than Apollo, the core stage needed to be quite powerful to get the stack all the way from the surface to the outer edges of the atmosphere.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Partially, yeah. Crewed spacecraft by necessity weigh significantly more than uncrewed, because life support is very heavy. But they also want to take that very heavy spacecraft further away from Earth than any crewed spacecraft has ever been before, which means they need to take a lot of fuel; yes, it’s a gravity-assisted free-return trajectory, but it still needs fuel for course corrections and other orbital dynamics. Plus, it’s a two-stage spacecraft, while the Saturn V was three-stage, so it’s got to carry a lot more dead weight a lot further than before.
All of that together means they needed the most powerful rocket ever. The lander mission will almost certainly be even more powerful than that, because while it won’t need to go as far, it’ll be carrying another spacecraft.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The moon landing is absolutely unbelievable, change my mind.
We escaped earths gravity in 1969… 1969!, during the height of propaganda and was able to broadcast that to everyone on earth in real time.
completely unverifiable to the layman except for fuzzy government issued film until years after when we have the technology to forge the whole thing.
Remember the average man was still subsistence farming until the last few decades.
It is not crazy to believe this is fake, I would go so far as to say, the only reason the majority of people believe it is real is because of completely irrational reasons and because everyone else does.
That’s not to say there isn’t completely rational reasons to say it really happened, but the same can be said about quantum physics.
The average man cannot be expected to believe it because the science technically exists, and you cannot call someone crazy for believing it.
It is completely rational to believe the moon landing was fake, it just happens to be wrong.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve been on Lemmy for a little while now, but this is by far, without a shred of a doubt, the dumbest, most idiotic comment I’ve ever read here. Anyone with more IQ than a toaster knows we landed on the moon. There are literal transmitters on the fucking moon that every country in the world has access to pointing to and proving.
Christ fucking sake. It’s 2026. We’re literally fucking doomed as a species, aren’t we.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The average man is not a country, that is my whole point. Of course a country has the resources to prove we have landed on the moon but the average man does not, and guess what, that would require the average man to trust the government a government that might be lying about us going to the moon, not everyone wants the usa to get credit for it (looking at you Russia).
My point is not that it is impossible to prove we’ve been to the moon, my point is it is irrational for the average person to believe we have been to the moon, because the average person does not have the resources and time needed to prove we’ve been to the moon.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We escaped earths gravity in 1969… 1969!, during the height of propaganda and was able to broadcast that to everyone on earth in real time.
except the soviets said “GGWP” when it happened, you’d think they’d have much to gain by denying it too.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Maybe not but the USSR isn’t exactly around to verify that fact anymore so it still requires trust in the government.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Obviously fake launch picture. Have you ever noticed that our images of rocket launches increase in quality at nearly the exact same rate that our ability to simulate smoke on graphics cards increases?
It’s like they’re not even trying.
percent@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
I assume they’re aware that rockets get launched on a regular basis
Zron@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That rocket is going to the moon tho
percent@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Does that matter to them? I assumed not, but I don’t really know what they think about rocket launches, so maybe I shouldn’t assume
i_am_somebody@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
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kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 2 weeks ago
me too thanks
Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
There are dozens of us.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
obligatory here’s the study that shows that people will not change their minds
kuunari@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Obligatory well, I still think it works