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• Zron@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  It’s irrational to believe people get into metal tubes everyday and just go to the other side of the world.

  The average man cannot verify a plane is capable of flight.

  That’s what you sound like.

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• zalgotext@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So are you claiming that it’s irrational for a layman to believe anything they cannot prove themselves?

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  • stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is the moon landing just any every day occurrence that we take at face value?

    No it is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence that the average man simply doesn’t have.

    The fact that they could get it doesn’t change anything, we cannot demand the every man to verify everything and the moon landing is just one of those things that most people don’t take the time to verify because honestly it’s just not that important to everyday life.

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    • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Is it not an extraordinary claim to say that a giant flaming ball of plasma millions of miles away is responsible for our day/night cycle, seasons, and in a large part, weather?

      Is it not an extraordinary claim to say a large, spherical rock hundreds of thousands of miles away is responsible for the tides?

      Is it not an extraordinary claim to say we’ve launched astronauts into orbit around the earth, where they’ve lived for months at a time?

      Is it not an extraordinary claim to say that all things with mass warp the very fabric of our reality, to the point where large enough masses can bend or even permanently trap light?

      Is it not an extraordinary claim to say that light is actually made up of particles that have no mass, but travel at a measurable speed and interact measurably with other particles?

      Is it not an extraordinary claim to say that tiny, basically invisible organisms are responsible for a wide variety of ailments and sicknesses that have affected all life on earth for billions of years?

      Like seriously, what’s your bar for “extraordinary”, and why does the moon landing meet it?

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      • stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And I would expect you to believe nobe of that without extraordinary proof, but the real difference is all the propaganda and active deception during the time.

        You should believe literally nothing any government said during the cold war without external validation.

        And don’t forget we live in a world with Flat Earthers, not everyone has seen that proof you take as self evidence.

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• PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  equire the average man to trust the government a government that might be lying about us going to the moon, not everyone wants the usa to get credit for it (looking at you Russia).

  So you genuinely believe it is more likely that we didn’t land on the moon in the late 60s, but is in fact more believable that every government in the world since the late 60s have worked together in international unison, from turnovers of governments, left wing to fascism, to keep the wool pulled over the billions of regular citizens?

  Geo-politically, some countries can’t agree that humans have a right to access to water. They go to war over petty disagreements. But they’ll completely work together to defend the global cover-up of the moon landing?

  Fuck right off.

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  • stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ve seen the Epstein files that isn’t as strong of a claim as you think it is.

    We landed on the moon, I’m not saying otherwise.

    Bit You cannot hold people not believing such an extraordinary claim accountable

    Unless they are teaching bit to others without doing the research.

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