I’m trying to wrap my head around that statement but I can’t come with any explanation why that should be the case.
FADED. 🥴
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realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 1 month ago
homes@piefed.world 1 month ago
Because it’s absurd nonsense
Poxlox@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Candice Owens has suggested that various powers that be played a role in Kirk’s assassination, particularly for speaking out against Israel.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Candace thinks Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
Frankly, I don’t actually think that’s totally impossible, though its far from proven.
However, if you know anything about guns or ballistics… the scenario that has thus far been presented by the FBI as to the kind of weapon that shot Kirk and the angle and distance he was shot from…
Its completely impossible, and does not align with the evidence on the scene.
If Kirk had been shot from basically the front, by a 30.06, in the neck, it would have blown half of his neck off, there would have been a massive back blast of viscera behind him.
What the actual wounds from the autopsy point toward is that roughly a 5.56 round from Kirk’s above and right, entered his neck on the right side, traversed around and through various parts of his neck, untill it ended up severing the corotid artery on his right side and lodging itself into his left collar bone.
That bullet trajectory actually matches the specific injuries from the autopsy, and the video evidence.
A 30.06 from roughly 150 yards away… would have zero chance of embedding itself into a collar bone.
It would detonate it, shatter it, blow it apart.
A 30.06 from 500 yards away will shatter the femur of a moose… there’s an order of magnitude more kinetic energy in a 30.06 than a 5.56 round.
You can run all the math on the physics of this yourself if you doubt it. I’ve already done it, search through my comment history if you want to see it.
brian@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
while I sorta doubt you did the “math on the physics”, my bigger worry is referring to .30-06 as 30.06, as one of those doesn’t exist, as far as I’m aware.
but stating, factually, that there is “zero chance” of the bullet embedding in the collarbone, is pretty irresponsible. there are a multitude of other things that need to be accounted for in ballistics analysis, which even then can be misinterpreted.
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
A 30.06 from roughly 150 yards away, from the front… would have zero chance of embedding itself into a collar bone.
It would detonate it, shatter it, blow it apart.
A 30.06 from 500 yards away will shatter the femur of a moose… there’s an order of magnitude more kinetic energy in a 30.06 than a 5.56 round.
So, knowing nothing about 5.56 rounds but having shot a .30-06 at moose/deer/elk: in the 100-200 yard range the bullet will break a rib, travel through the lungs/heart/etc and then often exit the other side on a smaller animal (deer), or be sitting just inside the hide of a larger one (elk/moose).
I have no opinions on the rest of it that’s just been my experience.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I mean, we can distrust both. I’m not clear on what you think happened. Do you not think the person arrested for this is the killer? In any case what is the motivation for lying about the weapon used…?
Cargon@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
I mean, if right wingers wanted Charlie Kirk dead, who am I to complain?
JoeMontayna@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Whatever happened to the theory that it hit his body armor first and deflected up into his neck? I haven’t looked into this in awhile, but recall seeing a video that looked like that is what happened. That would explain the loss in velocity.
hector@lemmy.today 1 month ago
The official story is bullshit. Not only on the ballistics but especially that. The rifle was supposedly broken down and put into that tiny pack in 1 minute flat, then reassembled in a nearby chicken coop, that a bomb/gun sniffing dog scanned without signalling anything, and an FBI finds it first minute on the scene.
It’s not possible, these working dogs are incredible, they didn’t miss a fired gun.
Syndication@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Mental illness can cause you to have irrational thoughts.
dumbass@piefed.social 1 month ago
Sly way of saying that Israel killed Kirk, who knows with Israel, could be true.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Israel’s big reveal is going to be that they did in fact send an agent to the western hemisphere hundreds of years ago just to bury some golden tablets in upstate New York and will be activating the entirety of Deseret with the phrase “Hie to Kolob”.
butwhyishischinabook@piefed.social 1 month ago
Knowing how conspiratorial and antisemitic (as opposed to rightfully antizionist) she is, I’m going to assume she’s implying that THE (((JEWS)))™️ assassinated Kirk and then went to war with Iran with us as their meat puppet ally.
bizarroland@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I feel like it’s the kind of shit that a bunch of drunken college kids would do as a prank.
Like they’re all standing around laughing at the people that are actually believing this shit and laughing even more at the people that get upset.
Marthirial@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s because you don’t have a MAGA in your brain.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 1 month ago
Yeah, normally I can at least understand what they’re trying to say, but here I just… I don’t know anymore 😭
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
A MAGA killed Charlie Kirk so MAGA had NO CHOICE but to Bomb and Iranian School in Response!
Grimy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This was pushed hard when it happened but I’ve never seen anything actually pointing to him being MAGA. He was raised in a right wing household but also dated someone trans and killed a right wing spokesman.
His social media got nuked right away so not much on that side. It was probably a mixed bag which is maybe more dangerous to have in the news in terms of inciting copycats. Easier if both sides blame it on the other, wouldn’t want anyone to see himself in him.
That being said, I don’t think his a allegiance matters as much as the fact that Charlie deserved it.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 month ago
He was part of a group that thought maga was too soft. Any left in there was a buffer overrun.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 1 month ago
He killed charlie kirk because charlie didn’t hate in the right way. So if you think the trash that killed the trash is a good guy then you are not a good guy.
hector@lemmy.today 1 month ago
While I don’t disagree, the story is bullshit. Somethings are off, obviously so. Cadence is actually mostly right on this.
D_C@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Every single one of those little girls were in contact with The Human Fountain’s shooter every single day. Every. Single. Day.
And they were all pleading with him to do that shooting. 6 year old Iranian schoolgirls are a formidable force that should not be trifled with!Or Candeath Omens is a cunt. It could be either…
daannii@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I actually thought (I know, I’m stupid) that Candace genuinely cared about Kirk and was genuinely upset she lost her friend.
But now I see she’s just milking his “legacy” for self promotion and grifting attention, just like the Erika.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
She thinks Israel killed him.
hector@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Israel did kill him. Israel’s factions in the US, lines are blurry. They wanted to turn TP into a censor of schools, hitler youth, which it is now pursuing, Kirk had his own vision, and rejected their two board picks.
LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Of course she is. That world is entirely populated by grifters.
cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
from the way she talked about him on joe rogan, you would think she was a teenager having her first crush lol
daannii@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yeah honestly. It sounded like they probably got drunk and made out a few times.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Who the fuck is Charlie Kirk?
Restaldt@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Someone who died for what they believed in
That potentially getting shot in the neck is a small price to pay for everyone to have guns
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
God bless us every one
echodot@feddit.uk 1 month ago
I suspect that what he actually believed was that other people dying (preferably kids who don’t vote) so he can have a gun it’s a small price to pay.
What the right all have in common is an absolute inability to emphasise with anybody else, until it happens to them.
toad@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I hope you get cancer
NickwithaC@lemmy.world 1 month ago
No one.
colforge@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Was*
zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
A professional propagandist clown for christian nationalism
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Okay, what the hell is “christian”? Are yall fucking with me?
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Attention seeker. Loudmouth. Bigot. Gum model.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Mr. Potato head is a bigot???
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 month ago
She was captain of the enterprise after Christopher Pine
REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 month ago
Popular 4channer
RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Who the hell is John f. Kennedy?!?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
OH MY GOD SOMEBODY SHOOT IT IN THE NECK
hector@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Some dead asshole. Israel killed him to turn his TP org into a censor of schools and hitler youth, long story.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Wow i knew the ameican public school system was shit but i had no idea they had a whole toilet paper org
tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
WE ARE 🦅
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The theory is Israel killed charlie kirk because he was pushing back against israel
bstix@feddit.dk 1 month ago
Charlie Kirk didn’t kill himself.
But almost.
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 month ago
First casualty including or not including gang violence?
MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Can anyone explain because my brain’t
Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
“And its still the utmost tragedy that he was so mercilessly slaughtered.”
“And the US soldiers and civilians in Iran that have been killed since the illegal war actually started?”
“Ehh, these things happen.”
NotSteve_@piefed.ca 1 month ago
Capitalising the word “war” as if it was a deity makes sense for an American politician
jali67@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
The worst part of it is people genuinely eat this shit up
criss_cross@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They couldn’t blame the liberals so now they need crackpot theories.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Forgotten. Fuck off
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
🎶Baby I’m wasted🎶
🎶All I wanna do is drive home to you🎶
🎶Baby I’m faded🎶
🎶All I wanna do is take you downtown🎶robocall@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I thought Charlie Kirk was Hamas
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Star Wars nerds “charlie kirk charlie kirk” piss off with your jawa shit
RAFAELRAMIREZ@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s exactly the moment when you realize the edibles were definitely working after all.
rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
did she just memoryholed all of the summer 2025 airstrikes
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Was Charlie Kirk’s assassin Iranian?
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 month ago
Fun fact: Candace Owens is otherkin.
This is what happens when we don’t support otherkin. They look elsewhere for support, and find it with dangerous people.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 1 month ago
By they she means themselves.
Armand1@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Sometimes the conspiracy theorists pop out of their echo chamber and make a statement that seems reasonable and widely accepted to them but can only be believed if you first believe 17 layers of propaganda, leaps of logic and generally brainrot. Usually all fed to them by bigots and billionaires.
Then are then surprised by normal people clowning on them and instead of reflecting, they just tell themselves they know something the normies don’t and that makes them special.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s worse than an echo chamber that they have. It’s isolated improv. They aren’t just agreeing, they’re "yes and"ing. Collective world building without critical thought, disagreement, or awareness that it isn’t how reality works.
Wilco@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
They are “roleplaying” with each other. Telling lies and conspiracy stories that they know are fiction, but MAGA is actually tolerant of other MAGA and as long as you are telling fiction about something that is close to MAGA they will pretend to believe it.
Except about 10% actually take that batshit crazy stuff serious.
snooggums@piefed.world 1 month ago
They also say things that don’t make any sense if someone understands how a calendar works.
Man_kind@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I personally dont think this is far fetched. There seems to have been a cover up about his death. The alleged shooter was maga. Kirk was going against Israel, and could have been a significant problem and priority target for israel, but for anyone else, he was just a racist POS, and very low significance, if someone wished to assassinate with goals of slowing maga down.
However, he was probably quite relevant for young people, so I could see it going either way, but I dont find the theory Israel was responsible is too much of a stretch, and it appears powerful people didnt want the public to learn too much about it.
hector@lemmy.today 1 month ago
The official story is bullshit. He was NOT hit with a 30.06, that rifle would have blown a fist sized hole out the back of his neck. The shooter didn’t dissassmble the rifle in 1 minute flat into that little bag. Then they don’t find the rifle with dogs the sheriffs bring around, but the FBI finds it fully assembled right under the dog’s noses?
That is wrong on at least three scores. They are lying to us, obviously, lending credence to the Israel angle.
echodot@feddit.uk 1 month ago
That’s why they all think that everyone’s secretly a Nazi only they are too afraid to admit it, which is why they are constantly surprised by all of the public backlash whenever they do their nazi things.
Of course that’s daft, the real Nazis have never been afraid to tell everyone who they are. Even when no one was asking.
hector@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Wrong, Israel’s faction did indeed kill Kirk.