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Sometimes the conspiracy theorists pop out of their echo chamber and make a statement that seems reasonable and widely accepted to them but can only be believed if you first believe 17 layers of propaganda, leaps of logic and generally brainrot. Usually all fed to them by bigots and billionaires.
Then are then surprised by normal people clowning on them and instead of reflecting, they just tell themselves they know something the normies donāt and that makes them special.
Itās worse than an echo chamber that they have. Itās isolated improv. They arenāt just agreeing, theyāre "yes and"ing. Collective world building without critical thought, disagreement, or awareness that it isnāt how reality works.
They are āroleplayingā with each other. Telling lies and conspiracy stories that they know are fiction, but MAGA is actually tolerant of other MAGA and as long as you are telling fiction about something that is close to MAGA they will pretend to believe it.
Except about 10% actually take that batshit crazy stuff serious.
They also say things that donāt make any sense if someone understands how a calendar works.
I personally dont think this is far fetched. There seems to have been a cover up about his death. The alleged shooter was maga. Kirk was going against Israel, and could have been a significant problem and priority target for israel, but for anyone else, he was just a racist POS, and very low significance, if someone wished to assassinate with goals of slowing maga down.
However, he was probably quite relevant for young people, so I could see it going either way, but I dont find the theory Israel was responsible is too much of a stretch, and it appears powerful people didnt want the public to learn too much about it.
Who the fuck is Charlie Kirk?
Who the hell is John f. Kennedy?!?
A professional propagandist clown for christian nationalism
Okay, what the hell is āchristianā? Are yall fucking with me?
Attention seeker. Loudmouth. Bigot. Gum model.
Mr. Potato head is a bigot???
Someone who died for what they believed in
That potentially getting shot in the neck is a small price to pay for everyone to have guns
God bless us every one
She was captain of the enterprise after Christopher Pine
He is the subject of Minecraft documentary.
No one.
Iām trying to wrap my head around that statement but I canāt come with any explanation why that should be the case.
Because itās absurd nonsense
Candice Owens has suggested that various powers that be played a role in Kirkās assassination, particularly for speaking out against Israel.
Candace thinks Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
Frankly, I donāt actually think thatās totally impossible, though its far from proven.
However, if you know anything about guns or ballisticsā¦ the scenario that has thus far been presented by the FBI as to the kind of weapon that shot Kirk and the angle and distance he was shot fromā¦
Its completely impossible, and does not align with the evidence on the scene.
If Kirk had been shot from basically the front, by a 30.06, in the neck, it would have blown half of his neck off, there would have been a massive back blast of viscera behind him.
What the actual wounds from the autopsy point toward is that roughly a 5.56 round from Kirkās above and right, entered his neck on the right side, traversed around and through various parts of his neck, untill it ended up severing the corotid artery on his right side and lodging itself into his left collar bone.
That bullet trajectory actually matches the specific injuries from the autopsy, and the video evidence.
A 30.06 from roughly 150 yards awayā¦ would have zero chance of embedding itself into a collar bone.
It would detonate it, shatter it, blow it apart.
A 30.06 from 500 yards away will shatter the femur of a mooseā¦ thereās an order of magnitude more kinetic energy in a 30.06 than a 5.56 round.
You can run all the math on the physics of this yourself if you doubt it. Iāve already done it, search through my comment history if you want to see it.
while I sorta doubt you did the āmath on the physicsā, my bigger worry is referring to .30-06 as 30.06, as one of those doesnāt exist, as far as Iām aware.
but stating, factually, that there is āzero chanceā of the bullet embedding in the collarbone, is pretty irresponsible. there are a multitude of other things that need to be accounted for in ballistics analysis, which even then can be misinterpreted.
I mean, if right wingers wanted Charlie Kirk dead, who am I to complain?
A 30.06 from roughly 150 yards away, from the frontā¦ would have zero chance of embedding itself into a collar bone.
It would detonate it, shatter it, blow it apart.
A 30.06 from 500 yards away will shatter the femur of a mooseā¦ thereās an order of magnitude more kinetic energy in a 30.06 than a 5.56 round.
So, knowing nothing about 5.56 rounds but having shot a .30-06 at moose/deer/elk: in the 100-200 yard range the bullet will break a rib, travel through the lungs/heart/etc and then often exit the other side on a smaller animal (deer), or be sitting just inside the hide of a larger one (elk/moose).
I have no opinions on the rest of it thatās just been my experience.
I mean, we can distrust both. Iām not clear on what you think happened. Do you not think the person arrested for this is the killer? In any case what is the motivation for lying about the weapon usedā¦?
Whatever happened to the theory that it hit his body armor first and deflected up into his neck? I havenāt looked into this in awhile, but recall seeing a video that looked like that is what happened. That would explain the loss in velocity.
Mental illness can cause you to have irrational thoughts.
Sly way of saying that Israel killed Kirk, who knows with Israel, could be true.
Israelās big reveal is going to be that they did in fact send an agent to the western hemisphere hundreds of years ago just to bury some golden tablets in upstate New York and will be activating the entirety of Deseret with the phrase āHie to Kolobā.
Knowing how conspiratorial and antisemitic (as opposed to rightfully antizionist) she is, Iām going to assume sheās implying that THE (((JEWS)))ā¢ļø assassinated Kirk and then went to war with Iran with us as their meat puppet ally.
I feel like itās the kind of shit that a bunch of drunken college kids would do as a prank.
Like theyāre all standing around laughing at the people that are actually believing this shit and laughing even more at the people that get upset.
Thatās because you donāt have a MAGA in your brain.
Yeah, normally I can at least understand what theyāre trying to say, but here I justā¦ I donāt know anymore š
A MAGA killed Charlie Kirk so MAGA had NO CHOICE but to Bomb and Iranian School in Response!
This was pushed hard when it happened but Iāve never seen anything actually pointing to him being MAGA. He was raised in a right wing household but also dated someone trans and killed a right wing spokesman.
His social media got nuked right away so not much on that side. It was probably a mixed bag which is maybe more dangerous to have in the news in terms of inciting copycats. Easier if both sides blame it on the other, wouldnāt want anyone to see himself in him.
That being said, I donāt think his a allegiance matters as much as the fact that Charlie deserved it.
He was part of a group that thought maga was too soft. Any left in there was a buffer overrun.
He killed charlie kirk because charlie didnāt hate in the right way. So if you think the trash that killed the trash is a good guy then you are not a good guy.
Every single one of those little girls were in contact with The Human Fountainās shooter every single day. Every. Single. Day.
And they were all pleading with him to do that shooting. 6 year old Iranian schoolgirls are a formidable force that should not be trifled with!
Or Candeath Omens is a cunt. It could be eitherā¦
Charlie Kirk didnāt kill himself.
But almost.
Stochastic suicide? š
He just made a very pointy argument against guns.
The theory is Israel killed charlie kirk because he was pushing back against israel
I much prefer the real story about somebody killng charlie kirk because he was an annoying rich guy.
It can be both.
Intelligence agencies love to gently nudge and provide support to someone who might do their dirty work for them.
That said itās way more likely they have kompramat on Trump and also that he is senile and thinks he is back in the 80s during the hostage crisis.
I like the story that he wasnāt far-right-enough
The worst part of it is people genuinely eat this shit up
Can anyone explain because my braināt
Candance Owens not brain good.
Not other things good either.
The poster in the screenshot is a moron. Charlie Kirk was assassinated 2025 Sept. The Iran war was illegally started LITERALLY LAST WEEK. They are trying to weaponize Kirks death and make him relevant again. This is a huge disgrace in my opinion, bc of both the insane time duration b/t Sept 2025 and today, and also completely ignoring the deaths of ACTUAL US SERVICEMEN and SERVICEWOMEN that came about due to this war.
Klandace thinks it is suspicious that a French woman wears a scarf a lot or that Hitler wouldnāt have been so bad if he just stayed in Germany. Donāt put too much thought into what she says or thinks.
Basically to kind of expand on what the other commenter said, Candace kind of believes that Israel had something to do with Charlie Kirkās death. So basically the post is a dumb conspiracy theory that Charlie Kirk was killed because he was in the way of Israel attacking Iran.
āAnd its still the utmost tragedy that he was so mercilessly slaughtered.ā
āAnd the US soldiers and civilians in Iran that have been killed since the illegal war actually started?ā
āEhh, these things happen.ā
They couldnāt blame the liberals so now they need crackpot theories.
Capitalising the word āwarā as if it was a deity makes sense for an American politician
Forgotten. Fuck off
Star Wars nerds ācharlie kirk charlie kirkā piss off with your jawa shit
Thatās exactly the moment when you realize the edibles were definitely working after all.
š¶Baby Iām wastedš¶
š¶All I wanna do is drive home to youš¶
š¶Baby Iām fadedš¶
š¶All I wanna do is take you downtownš¶
did she just memoryholed all of the summer 2025 airstrikes
Was Charlie Kirkās assassin Iranian?
Fun fact: Candace Owens is otherkin.
This is what happens when we donāt support otherkin. They look elsewhere for support, and find it with dangerous people.
By they she means themselves.
daannii@lemmy.world āØ2ā© āØhoursā© ago
I actually thought (I know, Iām stupid) that Candace genuinely cared about Kirk and was genuinely upset she lost her friend.
But now I see sheās just milking his ālegacyā for self promotion and grifting attention, just like the Erika.
LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works āØ2ā© āØminutesā© ago
Of course she is. That world is entirely populated by grifters.
cheers_queers@lemmy.zip āØ18ā© āØminutesā© ago
from the way she talked about him on joe rogan, you would think she was a teenager having her first crush lol
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works āØ1ā© āØhourā© ago
She thinks Israel killed him.