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  • Armand1@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    Sometimes the conspiracy theorists pop out of their echo chamber and make a statement that seems reasonable and widely accepted to them but can only be believed if you first believe 17 layers of propaganda, leaps of logic and generally brainrot. Usually all fed to them by bigots and billionaires.

    Then are then surprised by normal people clowning on them and instead of reflecting, they just tell themselves they know something the normies don’t and that makes them special.

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    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      It’s worse than an echo chamber that they have. It’s isolated improv. They aren’t just agreeing, they’re "yes and"ing. Collective world building without critical thought, disagreement, or awareness that it isn’t how reality works.

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      • Wilco@lemmy.zip ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        They are “roleplaying” with each other. Telling lies and conspiracy stories that they know are fiction, but MAGA is actually tolerant of other MAGA and as long as you are telling fiction about something that is close to MAGA they will pretend to believe it.

        Except about 10% actually take that batshit crazy stuff serious.

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    • snooggums@piefed.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      They also say things that don’t make any sense if someone understands how a calendar works.

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    • Man_kind@sh.itjust.works ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      I personally dont think this is far fetched. There seems to have been a cover up about his death. The alleged shooter was maga. Kirk was going against Israel, and could have been a significant problem and priority target for israel, but for anyone else, he was just a racist POS, and very low significance, if someone wished to assassinate with goals of slowing maga down.

      However, he was probably quite relevant for young people, so I could see it going either way, but I dont find the theory Israel was responsible is too much of a stretch, and it appears powerful people didnt want the public to learn too much about it.

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      • hector@lemmy.today ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        The official story is bullshit. He was NOT hit with a 30.06, that rifle would have blown a fist sized hole out the back of his neck. The shooter didn’t dissassmble the rifle in 1 minute flat into that little bag. Then they don’t find the rifle with dogs the sheriffs bring around, but the FBI finds it fully assembled right under the dog’s noses?

        That is wrong on at least three scores. They are lying to us, obviously, lending credence to the Israel angle.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      That’s why they all think that everyone’s secretly a Nazi only they are too afraid to admit it, which is why they are constantly surprised by all of the public backlash whenever they do their nazi things.

      Of course that’s daft, the real Nazis have never been afraid to tell everyone who they are. Even when no one was asking.

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Wrong, Israel’s faction did indeed kill Kirk.

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  • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    I’m trying to wrap my head around that statement but I can’t come with any explanation why that should be the case.

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    • homes@piefed.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Because it’s absurd nonsense

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    • Poxlox@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Candice Owens has suggested that various powers that be played a role in Kirk’s assassination, particularly for speaking out against Israel.

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    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Candace thinks Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

      Frankly, I don’t actually think that’s totally impossible, though its far from proven.

      However, if you know anything about guns or ballistics
 the scenario that has thus far been presented by the FBI as to the kind of weapon that shot Kirk and the angle and distance he was shot from


      Its completely impossible, and does not align with the evidence on the scene.

      If Kirk had been shot from basically the front, by a 30.06, in the neck, it would have blown half of his neck off, there would have been a massive back blast of viscera behind him.

      What the actual wounds from the autopsy point toward is that roughly a 5.56 round from Kirk’s above and right, entered his neck on the right side, traversed around and through various parts of his neck, untill it ended up severing the corotid artery on his right side and lodging itself into his left collar bone.

      That bullet trajectory actually matches the specific injuries from the autopsy, and the video evidence.

      A 30.06 from roughly 150 yards away
 would have zero chance of embedding itself into a collar bone.

      It would detonate it, shatter it, blow it apart.

      A 30.06 from 500 yards away will shatter the femur of a moose
 there’s an order of magnitude more kinetic energy in a 30.06 than a 5.56 round.

      You can run all the math on the physics of this yourself if you doubt it. I’ve already done it, search through my comment history if you want to see it.

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      • brian@lemmy.ca ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        while I sorta doubt you did the “math on the physics”, my bigger worry is referring to .30-06 as 30.06, as one of those doesn’t exist, as far as I’m aware.

        but stating, factually, that there is “zero chance” of the bullet embedding in the collarbone, is pretty irresponsible. there are a multitude of other things that need to be accounted for in ballistics analysis, which even then can be misinterpreted.

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      • usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        A 30.06 from roughly 150 yards away, from the front
 would have zero chance of embedding itself into a collar bone.

        It would detonate it, shatter it, blow it apart.

        A 30.06 from 500 yards away will shatter the femur of a moose
 there’s an order of magnitude more kinetic energy in a 30.06 than a 5.56 round.

        So, knowing nothing about 5.56 rounds but having shot a .30-06 at moose/deer/elk: in the 100-200 yard range the bullet will break a rib, travel through the lungs/heart/etc and then often exit the other side on a smaller animal (deer), or be sitting just inside the hide of a larger one (elk/moose).

        I have no opinions on the rest of it that’s just been my experience.

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        I mean, we can distrust both. I’m not clear on what you think happened. Do you not think the person arrested for this is the killer? In any case what is the motivation for lying about the weapon used
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      • Cargon@lemmy.ml ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        I mean, if right wingers wanted Charlie Kirk dead, who am I to complain?

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      • JoeMontayna@lemmy.ml ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        Whatever happened to the theory that it hit his body armor first and deflected up into his neck? I haven’t looked into this in awhile, but recall seeing a video that looked like that is what happened. That would explain the loss in velocity.

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      • hector@lemmy.today ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        The official story is bullshit. Not only on the ballistics but especially that. The rifle was supposedly broken down and put into that tiny pack in 1 minute flat, then reassembled in a nearby chicken coop, that a bomb/gun sniffing dog scanned without signalling anything, and an FBI finds it first minute on the scene.

        It’s not possible, these working dogs are incredible, they didn’t miss a fired gun.

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    • Syndication@lemmy.today ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Mental illness can cause you to have irrational thoughts.

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    • dumbass@piefed.social ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Sly way of saying that Israel killed Kirk, who knows with Israel, could be true.

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      • backalleycoyote@lemmy.today ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        Israel’s big reveal is going to be that they did in fact send an agent to the western hemisphere hundreds of years ago just to bury some golden tablets in upstate New York and will be activating the entirety of Deseret with the phrase “Hie to Kolob”.

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    • butwhyishischinabook@piefed.social ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Knowing how conspiratorial and antisemitic (as opposed to rightfully antizionist) she is, I’m going to assume she’s implying that THE (((JEWS)))â„ąïž assassinated Kirk and then went to war with Iran with us as their meat puppet ally.

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    • bizarroland@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      I feel like it’s the kind of shit that a bunch of drunken college kids would do as a prank.

      Like they’re all standing around laughing at the people that are actually believing this shit and laughing even more at the people that get upset.

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    • Marthirial@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      That’s because you don’t have a MAGA in your brain.

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    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Richard scary brain worm

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    • AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, normally I can at least understand what they’re trying to say, but here I just
 I don’t know anymore 😭

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  • BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    A MAGA killed Charlie Kirk so MAGA had NO CHOICE but to Bomb and Iranian School in Response!

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    • Grimy@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      This was pushed hard when it happened but I’ve never seen anything actually pointing to him being MAGA. He was raised in a right wing household but also dated someone trans and killed a right wing spokesman.

      His social media got nuked right away so not much on that side. It was probably a mixed bag which is maybe more dangerous to have in the news in terms of inciting copycats. Easier if both sides blame it on the other, wouldn’t want anyone to see himself in him.

      That being said, I don’t think his a allegiance matters as much as the fact that Charlie deserved it.

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      • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        He was part of a group that thought maga was too soft. Any left in there was a buffer overrun.

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      • MehBlah@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        He killed charlie kirk because charlie didn’t hate in the right way. So if you think the trash that killed the trash is a good guy then you are not a good guy.

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      • hector@lemmy.today ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        While I don’t disagree, the story is bullshit. Somethings are off, obviously so. Cadence is actually mostly right on this.

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    • D_C@sh.itjust.works ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Every single one of those little girls were in contact with The Human Fountain’s shooter every single day. Every. Single. Day.
      And they were all pleading with him to do that shooting. 6 year old Iranian schoolgirls are a formidable force that should not be trifled with!

      Or Candeath Omens is a cunt. It could be either


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  • daannii@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    I actually thought (I know, I’m stupid) that Candace genuinely cared about Kirk and was genuinely upset she lost her friend.

    But now I see she’s just milking his “legacy” for self promotion and grifting attention, just like the Erika.

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    • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      She thinks Israel killed him.

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      • hector@lemmy.today ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        Israel did kill him. Israel’s factions in the US, lines are blurry. They wanted to turn TP into a censor of schools, hitler youth, which it is now pursuing, Kirk had his own vision, and rejected their two board picks.

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    • LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Of course she is. That world is entirely populated by grifters.

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    • cheers_queers@lemmy.zip ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      from the way she talked about him on joe rogan, you would think she was a teenager having her first crush lol

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      • daannii@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah honestly. It sounded like they probably got drunk and made out a few times.

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  • ThunderQueen@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    Who the fuck is Charlie Kirk?

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    • Restaldt@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Someone who died for what they believed in

      That potentially getting shot in the neck is a small price to pay for everyone to have guns

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      • toad@sh.itjust.works ⁚5⁩ ⁚days⁩ ago

        I hope you get cancer

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      • ThunderQueen@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        God bless us every one

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        I suspect that what he actually believed was that other people dying (preferably kids who don’t vote) so he can have a gun it’s a small price to pay.

        What the right all have in common is an absolute inability to emphasise with anybody else, until it happens to them.

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    • NickwithaC@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      No one.

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    • colforge@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Was*

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    • zenitsu@sh.itjust.works ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      A professional propagandist clown for christian nationalism

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      • ThunderQueen@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        Okay, what the hell is “christian”? Are yall fucking with me?

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    • finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Attention seeker. Loudmouth. Bigot. Gum model.

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      • ThunderQueen@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        Mr. Potato head is a bigot???

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      She was captain of the enterprise after Christopher Pine

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    • REDACTED@infosec.pub ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Popular 4channer

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    • RagingRobot@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Who the hell is John f. Kennedy?!?

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    • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      I think it’s this guy:

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      • ThunderQueen@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        OH MY GOD SOMEBODY SHOOT IT IN THE NECK

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Some dead asshole. Israel killed him to turn his TP org into a censor of schools and hitler youth, long story.

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      • ThunderQueen@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        Wow i knew the ameican public school system was shit but i had no idea they had a whole toilet paper org

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    • tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      WE ARE 🩅

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  • QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    whenever I get high I just post shit like this

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  • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    The theory is Israel killed charlie kirk because he was pushing back against israel

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  • bstix@feddit.dk ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    Charlie Kirk didn’t kill himself.

    But almost.

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    First casualty including or not including gang violence?

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  • MutantTailThing@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    Can anyone explain because my brain’t

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  • Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    “And its still the utmost tragedy that he was so mercilessly slaughtered.”

    “And the US soldiers and civilians in Iran that have been killed since the illegal war actually started?”

    “Ehh, these things happen.”

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  • NotSteve_@piefed.ca ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    Capitalising the word “war” as if it was a deity makes sense for an American politician

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  • jali67@lemmy.zip ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    The worst part of it is people genuinely eat this shit up

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  • criss_cross@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    They couldn’t blame the liberals so now they need crackpot theories.

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    Forgotten. Fuck off

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  • JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    đŸŽ¶Baby I’m wastedđŸŽ¶
    đŸŽ¶All I wanna do is drive home to youđŸŽ¶
    đŸŽ¶Baby I’m fadedđŸŽ¶
    đŸŽ¶All I wanna do is take you downtownđŸŽ¶

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  • robocall@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    I thought Charlie Kirk was Hamas

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  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    Star Wars nerds “charlie kirk charlie kirk” piss off with your jawa shit

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  • RAFAELRAMIREZ@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    That’s exactly the moment when you realize the edibles were definitely working after all.

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  • rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    did she just memoryholed all of the summer 2025 airstrikes

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  • abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    Was Charlie Kirk’s assassin Iranian? 

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  • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    Fun fact: Candace Owens is otherkin.

    This is what happens when we don’t support otherkin. They look elsewhere for support, and find it with dangerous people.

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  • MehBlah@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    By they she means themselves.

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