…except country…
My parents routinely started listening to several of my favourite bands when I was a teen.
Do you have any idea how hard is it to be an angsty rebellious teenager when your parents are supportive of your tastes and phases?
Probably helps that I'm happy to listen to whatever genre
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ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 4 hours ago
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 hour ago
Unless it’s an AI song. If you link me an AI song I will bring back the beatings.
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
I’d love to be that dad, but my daughter only listens to k-pop
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
It’s been a while for a new rebellious music genre to appear, though…
Kids, let’s go, we are waiting!
IronBird@lemmy.world 26 minutes ago
it’s always been punk music
Honytawk@feddit.nl 6 hours ago
Mumble rap is the rebellious version of old school rap.
Just look how angry it makes old school rap lovers.
MBech@feddit.dk 5 hours ago
I generally don’t really like rap, but mumble rap just sounds lazy as shit. Like “I can’t even be bothered to open my mouth”. It’s also so stupidly monotone. I may just be an old man yelling at kids, but that’s music I will never understand.
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 hours ago
Might well be, rap seems to be a good candidate.
Although in Germany I would rather see immigrant-influenced Deutschrap here, maybe connected to the Talahon youth culture.
That would definitely fit the bill, as I certainly will never become a fan of any kind of macho ultra-conservatism.
knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 6 hours ago
I love the strange genre merges by bands like electric callboy or hanabie but i doubt you can call most their fans kids
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 hours ago
Don’t know Hanabie, but Electric Callboy certainly is the ultimate comfort music for GenX and Millenials.
The Europop-Techno-Metal mix massively tingels my nostalgia based on the music genres of my youth. Plus it is a surprisingly fitting combination and rocks on a massive scale. :-)
Mozingo@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I feel like hyperpop is basically that. 100 gecs, femtanyl, etc.
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 hours ago
Just looked them up.
Fentanyl I found classified as Hardcore Punk, which would already be around since the 80s.
But 100 gecs seems to be something called Hyperpop, which is a genuine new GenZ thing!
Sounds interesting, will have a look!
red_tomato@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Is Skibidi Toilet music good enough for you?
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 hours ago
The whole brainrot thing goes in the right direction, but is not really a music genre.
The Skibidi song e.g. is pretty conventional stuff.
The videos are the avant-garde part here.
Juice@midwest.social 4 hours ago
Mark Fisher, the author of Capitalist Realism, in another book called “Exiting the Vampire Castle”, argued that in the history of recorded music, every 20 - 30 years or so there were new genres of music that wouldn’t be recognizable as music to the previous generation. But around the early 2000s this process stopped, and musical categories hardened due to capitalist logic. Record companies just wanted to churn out the same things that they already knew how to market, rather than invest in artists who were cutting edge. He called it “the slow cancellation of the future”.
Granted I think Fisher is kind of overrated as a practical theorist, all those CCRU research people went crazy, and Fisher is a particularly sad example. His vampire castle book is okay, and that generation was like preoccupied with marketing manipulation (a perspective that arguably was being marketed to them/us).
But through that perspective this meme is interesting, because the reason younger generations can connect about musical tastes, is because popular music has stopped being subversive. Chances are the band the younger boy is listening to has a sound that was copped from an older group, which is why the young man recognizes it as good. But to the older generations, music was still subversive, the young rejected the old and proper categories of music, which were themselves subversive in their own time.
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 hours ago
To play the devil’s advocate here: “music used to be subversive but now it’s all the same, nothing original” sounds just like a grumpy old man yelling at a cloud. Old people will find reasons to hate new stuff.
This isn’t to disagree. I read Capitalist Realism and think the argument works. And personally, I remember how shocked I was to find out that Behind Blue Eyes wasn’t originally by Limp Bizkit but much older and that my mom listened to the punk rock band I liked as a teenager when she was young. My question might be if there ever was anything “new under the sun” but first and foremost, I like the idea as a devil’s advocate.
Juice@midwest.social 1 hour ago
sounds just like a grumpy old man yelling at a cloud.
Yeah totally agree with you there. The book is actually pretty funny in that regard, he spends most of what I read talking about Tricky and 90’s Jungle, and really, really hating the arctic monkeys. He spent his last years talking about how leftists were too mean on twitter, so he’s like a spiritual influence on the rights war against “woke”. In response, the twitter left was really mean to him about it. Like there was something to it but he also missed the mark, even though he early on recognized the trend.
But like I said those CCRU people like broke their own brains. Very sad. Except maybe Sadie Plant but she hasn’t published anything in a very long time to my knowledge
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
musical categories hardened
That seems like nonsense, given how genres slimed together by the late 90s. Everybody was stealing from everybody else and the best we could do was throw around labels like “alternative.” ClearChannel made every genre pull toward country while country became R&B for hwhite people. Meanwhile the electronica scene had discovered computers - a development that took longer than you’d think - and a bunch of dorks styling themselves as DJ [noun] had MP3s all over piracy services. This is right before Youtube, SoundCloud, and MySpace let truly independent artists reach arbitrarily large audiences.
If we really want to start an argument - there’s people who say anything generated literally is not music. Kids these days are growing up with the ability to drop a diss track on their friend for a faux pas that happened five minutes ago. Formulaic, yes, but immediately distinct from everyone listening to the same ten conventionally-attractive pop artists.
Juice@midwest.social 2 hours ago
Actually he wrote a lot about 90s music in this theory, his main example of a subversive musical genre from the 90s was Jungle/D&B.
I mean I don’t think its complete nonsense, this is definitely something that has always happened regarding the capitalization of popular music, Gramsci wrote about some of the tendencies, in his analysis of italian theatre and how monopolized capital exploited artists and small venues, back in the 1920s. I think the pressures certainly exist, especially because of the examples you mention, like clear channel, but also live nation and ticketmaster. Those pressures to homogenize and commodify music are objectively the result of monopolization of the music industry. Culture and economy are intrinsically bound up in one another.
But also I feel that he sort of over stated his point, like his analysis is sort of warped by chronic depression and like fiercely hating the Arctic Monkeys.
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
I think the point isn’t that categories hardened in the sense that they stay distinct but that there are no more experiments, nothing subversive. Stealing and mixing things you know work, is exactly that. Your kid’s diss track will be totally generic with no original idea. That’s the whole point of the comment above, not that it’s exact covers.
GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 hours ago
SpongeBob me boy, that sounds sick AF! What’s the song so I can add it to me playlist? Arg arg arg arg arg!
cm0002@literature.cafe 6 hours ago
user_name@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Actual, classic country is really good. It’s the modern stuff that’s all about loving Bush’s wars, drinking shitting beer, and hating gay people that’s the problem.
Doc Watson, Johnny Cash, and Marty Robbins are all worth checking out, to name a few.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 hours ago
Johnny Cash was his own genre.
IronBird@lemmy.world 25 minutes ago
that’s just americana
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
I hate country, but I love Johnny Cash. His old man’s voice on his last album was just perfect.
kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Some modern country is also great! Tyler Childers has multiple songs about fucking around and being a cokehead in Kentucky (he’s thankfully clean now). Then there’s his Country Squire album that’s very fun to watch videos from while stoned. It’s like some southern Yellow Submarine.
Zach Bryan released an anti ICE song that I can’t currently remember the title of for the life of me.
If you want more folk, Haunted Windchimes, The Ghost of Paul Revere, and Poor Man’s Poison are all excellent, with Poor Man’s Poison just straight up having multiple leftist as fuck songs. More mainstream you’d find Noah Kahan, who’s done some excellent music. It’s more pop folk than normal folk, but I’m still a fan personally.
Basically, just avoid artists like that whiny little bitch boy Morgan Wallen or basically any of the mainstream musicians from the 80s to the 2000s and you can find some actually good shit.
Also, both are mainstream, but Travis Tritt’s Trouble and John Michael Montgomery’s Sold are both absolute bangers.
user_name@lemmy.world 33 minutes ago
Thanks! I’ll check them out; I know I was speaking in a broad generalization. For contemporary country, I’m a fan of Aida Victoria, to name one. It’s just, as OP said, those songs and musicians who produce “Republicunt siren songs.”
cm0002@literature.cafe 5 hours ago
I find actual classic country to just be boring, but not boring with a beat enough for work music like Classical music.
The modern country stuff I loathe for just like you said, being Republicunt siren songs lol
zout@fedia.io 5 hours ago
drinking shitting beer
Please keep this in, it's hilarious!
user_name@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Ahaha, I won’t correct 🫡
Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 hour ago
Counterpoint:
Extratone exists youtu.be/8RAYlykjQrw
Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
Counter-point: AI-generated muzak.
semperverus@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Counterpoint to both you and OP: AI generated country songs
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 7 hours ago
Additionally, auto-tune and trappy beats can go get fucked.
U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
West_of_West@piefed.social 5 hours ago
Holy shit… I never knew. I could enjoy that, something I’ve never been able to do with T pain
Mozingo@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
OK boomer
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 hours ago
I don’t know… Wasn’t the first to use autotune Cher?
You can’t get much more Boomer than Cher I would say…
U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
West_of_West@piefed.social 5 hours ago
I don’t know, the drums and guitar is pretty sick in that song.
cm0002@literature.cafe 6 hours ago
U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
the downside of avoiding youtube… just search “origin band.” any song will fit with my comment
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
i can dig it. would be awesome to see that show live and drunk af
jaybone@lemmy.zip 44 minutes ago
I also consider myself to like all genres of music. Some country isn’t bad. Especially older country. Actually newer country isn’t that bad either, but it’s all often so tied into identity politics it can be difficult to listen to.