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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works⁩ to ⁨greentext@sh.itjust.works⁩

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  • rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I assume most normies use Instagram, Tiktok etc. as apps nowadays. Which are also chock full of advertising/sponsored content, but in a somewhat less aggravating way. I assume that’s also part of LLMs are so popular - web without adblockers is complete shit and search results are quickly deteriorating, so instead they turn to a more concise version of algorithmic slop.

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    • kehet@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t think LLMs will become completely paid, but instead they will be filled with product placement and ads.

      You’re absolutely right! Have you considered how refreshing a Nuka-Cola product would taste while copy-pasting this writing assignment? Here are directions to the nearest Nuka-Cola vending machine.

      Or perhaps a little more subtly, when talking about soft drinks, LLM mentions Nuka-Cola (and how refreshing it is) as an example, rather than competing brands.

      Or you ask image generators for a picture of a cartoon cat and it just happens to be holding a bottle of Nuka-Cola. Or maybe there are a few recognizable bottles of Nuka-Cola on the table in the kitchen in the background.

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      • Deme@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I suspect that selling information about their users will also be a major source of revenue. They could be doing constant psychoanalysis and profiling based on the conversations and honestly it sounds like the holy grail gor data brokers.

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      • rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Interesting idea, that would be more subtle. The “product placement” approach.

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      • green_copper@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        At least it would be easier for teacher to see that an essay was written by a LLM if there is advertising text in the middle of it.

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    • voytrekk@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s amazing how they can adapt. I can watch my wife use snapchat and go through a story. When an ad gets between pictures, she instantly goes past the ad without even thinking. It must be the same power that users have when they close error windows and have no idea what the issue is.

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    • sleen@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      but in a somewhat less aggravating way.

      This is a quite interesting point to take in. The ads are there but not a straight to the face like website ads are.

      TikTok and TikTok alternatives as mentioned, use ads that pop up periodically, but naturally - as in it can be indistinguishable to other content that is presented. As said, the ads are less intrusive and more so designed to occupy the user for a couple of seconds to not effectively brake their inertia of scrolling.

      The status quo in the ad sector looks mismatched - but possibly for a purpose. It is known that ads are not only used for advertising on its own, but as a method of manipulation (e.g: YouTube premium). The friendly nature of TikTok ads in contrast to intrusive website ads poses an important question if the design is intentional and in result manipulative. In result, individuals of all ages are drawn to short form content and drawn from effective long form content. Additionally, since most individuals irrespective of age are essentially living off of short form content, it means they don’t have effective strategies developed to navigate or use the power of the wider element. This situation is attributed to discouragement; in effect all age groups are seen to be affected - even considering many individuals which have skills for browsing the wider internet.

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      • rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If this is intentional, I doubt most website owners are in on this scheme …

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    • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m so tired of seeing the word “slop” used for everything AI. It’s fucking annoying and as tiring as an American right-winger calling everything libtard.

      Open a thesaurus. You can say “trash”, “shit”, “garbage”, “waste”, “viral fecundity”, “sludge”, “gook”, or “muck” for example. Keep it new instead of just parroting the same old tired phrase.

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      • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s like complaining that people always use the word “address” to describe IP endpoints. THAT’S THE WORD FOR IT. When you say “slop” people know you mean AI generated content; when you say “garbage”, they don’t.

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      • flying_sheep@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The general public found a well-fitting word that they’re now using for it.

        AI slop: GenAI content, characterized by its one-size-fits-all, corporate language and bullshit nature that stochastically approximates something that looks/sounds like what you want but doesn’t come with any guarantees

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      • LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        All of that is far, far more work than AI deserves. Slop is about the most appropriate word for it and personally I’m putting zero effort beyond that into describing AI and AI-related topics

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      • hypnicjerk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        you mean goop? lol

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  • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hardly use my phone for internet, but when I’m away from my PiHole, “WTF is this bullshit?!”

    No one talks about it, but internet advertising is a bubble ready to pop. How is a consumer to chose your product, or even begin looking into it, when the they’re overwhelmed by an avalanche of ads? The numbers are in and 73% of ad views are fucking bots.

    Don’t know the available alternatives, but soon companies are going to figure their online marketing budget is a total waste.

    Reminds me of pinning my buddy down, “How much money is this satellite install business actually making after costs?”

    <after some back of the napkin math>

    “Fuck this shit. Let’s move to Florida.”

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    • Damage@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Firefox mobile supports extensions, including uBlock Origin

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      • stardustpathsofglory@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This way you also don’t see ads on youtube.

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    • slaacaa@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Doesn’t matter, line must go up 📈

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      • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That was rather my point. Soon enough they’ll realize their online marketing budget isn’t even paying for itself. Line go down.

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    • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The advertising industry as a whole is the biggest scam ever created

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    • CommissarKrieg@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Web3 is just a dross. Shitewhole

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      • angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Fediverse should’ve been what got called “Web 3.0.” It seeks to correct problems with Web 2.0 (many of the same ones that the blockchain Web3 purpoted to solve even) through new technology. Just as Web 2.0 tried to democratize the internet by emphasizing user generated content, Fediverse seeks to democratize the internet by distributing ownership of the servers.

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “WTF is this bullshit?!”

      I think this is literally what I said the other day.

      Someone sent me a link for something to buy at a local branch of a national store. The advantage of the link was that it said what aisle of the store the product was in, so I didn’t have to search everywhere once I got there. I opened the link and I literally couldn’t see the page. First of all there was a pop-over ad of some kind obscuring the entire page. Once I closed that, I was confronted with the cookie banner. Once I dealt with that, there was the regular store page filled with its own ads / “promotions”. I had to hunt everywhere to find the one useful bit of data, which was the aisle number. It took me at least 20 seconds from opening the link to being able to find this aisle number and it left me incredibly frustrated.

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  • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Raw doggin the net

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    • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s only if they have a Windows PC directly connected to the Internet, with no hardware or software firewall or security software…

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  • count_dongulus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well, they don’t much any more. The normies moved to apps.

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    • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Downloads app for a store

      Bingabeep at 3am

      There are new offers for 1% off something you don’t need

      Oh wow, messages for me

      Who does this?

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      • imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Lately people have their phones on silent or on (scheduled or not) dnd mode. And most phones seems to not to make sound in the night over many apps and only activate when user typically picks up his phone in the morning.

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  • CommissarKrieg@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    People use chrome?

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    • bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Without an adblock solution either

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      • winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Me setting up my moms browser with Adblock only to find out she disabled it for a coupon website…

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      • CommissarKrieg@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        may the godhead have mercy on their souls

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      • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I have to use chrome at work for some things. After they disabled ublock origin I switched to ublock light without looking into it much–do you know if there are any problems with that one?

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  • rockettaco37@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you don’t support ad blockers, you’re an asshole…

    It’s my computer, I’ll run whatever software I want on it. Your server costs aren’t my responsibility.

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    • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Your server costs aren’t my responsibility.

      Its amusing that people who mostly say “but those companies need to make money” often have these pro capitalism/free market ideals, but find that reply to be rude. Its a very subservient mindset.

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      • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Slave morality, babe.

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    • sommerset@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not on apple.

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      • rockettaco37@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Homebrew is an absolute must on macOS

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      • AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Macs can be tamed but they’ll never be as good as Linux in that regard.

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    • imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It is impossible to donate to UBO fyi

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  • M137@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Pretty sure it’s part of why “normies” don’t use computers and the web as much. If that is their only experience it just makes them use it only when absolutely needed.

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  • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I agree with Anon…using a computer with no blockers etc…it is just shit.

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve had that a few times on family and gf’s computers. It was worse than my pirate shenanigans before adblocks were a thing - you know, dealing with sites that had 3 redirects with a dozen DOWNLOAD buttons that were all ads before getting to the real link.

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  • OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Probably a reason why people brains have turned to mush. We’re in ad tech hell.

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    • reddifuge@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      End stage capitalism.

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      • cmbabul@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I want that to be the case, but until it’s really dead I’m treating capitalism like Sam Loomis treats Michael Myers

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  • NeedyPlatter@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m still in awe at how much of this bs I managed to tolerate since I installed U-block over a year ago.

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  • GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My god, the rare moments when 4Chan is relatable. 💀💀💀 People wonder why I’m so meticulous about my blockers and my VPN. And then I show them something on my computer, just casually, and they do a double take when they notice just how CLEAN my space is.

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    • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They then continue to scold you for not inhaling the slop like theu do the moment you bring up thst you won’t be doing something stupid they ask you to.

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    • lb_o@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, exactly. And sometimes you have to look at someone’s screen and it has so much visual garbage from ads - it is unbelievable.

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  • tino@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is there a reader viewer button on Chrome? I don’t remember. This feature is vastly ignored, but it’s simply the perfect way to read content. No consent pop-up, no design, no ad, just a beautiful simple page with text and images.

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    • CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have a Firefox extension called Tranquility Reader that does that, it’s like my favourite bit of software. Just the article on a white background, with a button to save it as a PDF. Perfect!

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      • ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Pretty sure firefox has a built-in reader mode, I don’t think I installed anything extra to use that and I use it for reading my textbooks every day.

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      • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Is there a version with a dark mode? I like the reader mode on my phone, because it makes the background darker. Gray background, white letters, simple and easy on the eyes.

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    • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes I love the page reader mode on Firefox even as an adblock user. For me its the tan theme, such an upgrade over the white page most websites have.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It can still get around paywalls sometimes too.

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  • ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    All the PCs at my school have Firefox installed and I’m so grateful. I’ve got my ublock, decentraleyes, all the good stuff. Its quite nice.

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    • GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh! Decentraleyes isn’t maintained regularly, the last Github commit was almost a year ago. Give LocalCDN a try.

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      • ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Thank you friend 🙏🙏

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  • tetris11@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    slower than molasses

    Bit of an obscure reference, but, for those who do not know, mole’s have notorious indigestion problems meaning they’re shy poopers, and hence giving them the nickname “slow asses”

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    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      and here I thought it was a chemistry problem, a mole of asses. 6.02214076×1023 asses, in SI

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    • AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      *science!

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  • Snowclone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    were just back to the quality of black and white add space internet service dial up.

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  • RedSnt@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I know this isn’t someone asking for a solution, and maybe you don’t have rights on the computer to do so, but opening a command prompt and typing in winget install Brave.Brave (or winget install --id=Brave.Brave -e) gets you a browser with builtin adblocker real quick.

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    • Turret3857@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      LibreWolf is the not-transphobic alternative to Brave winget install LibreWolf.LibreWolf

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      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Winget was literally stolen from appget.

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      • RedSnt@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I wasn’t aware Brave was transphobic. I just knew they were kinda crypto-sketchy.
        I also tested Pulse Browser which unfortunately has been discontinued and won’t even open HTTPS sites. And I also tested Otter Browser which is loosely based on Opera Presto, but unfortunately it uses a pretty old webkit engine. But those browsers also come with builtin adblock.
        I was aware of Librewolf, I just thought the default security might be a bit much if in a hurry.

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  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Reminds me of a black mirror episode.

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  • Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I tried watching some YouTube video on a discord embed today. It served me 8 short ads in 4 blocks for a sub-10 min video

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  • goodboyjojo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ad block was a game changer for me

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  • CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ill explain It to you: normies do something really weird called…going outside! Thunder strikes

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    • piranhaconda@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or, they just don’t browse the Internet on normal browsers like chrome as often. A lot of the Internet nowadays is walled off apps only accessible from phones.

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      • CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Well actually i use lemmy only from the phone and rarely on laptop or pc

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    • lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fuck, that’s how they can tollerate ads. Not stuck on teh screen all day

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      • CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah

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  • lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Dude, that pic related tho

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