Anon discovers what it’s like to own a piece of media
Anon uses GOG
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otacon239@lemmy.world 1 day ago
affenlehrer@feddit.org 1 day ago
It’s getting rare to own anything. Everything is just a temporary license or subscription or even if you own the thing it’s dongled to the vendor and when the vendor is in a bad mood or goes bankrupt you think can’t be used any more…
shalafi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m far too old to play the “everything is rented” game. I refuse to participate and I’m stunned anyone else does.
OTOH, I brought up how Trump/Project-2025 is dismantling NOAA on neighborhood.com, rather crucial to us on the Gulf Coast, and had this (heavily paraphrased) discussion with Karen:
“I PAY for my weather app! Don’t care if you can’t!”
“Uh, where do you think that app gets it’s data?”
“Not arguing with an idiot!”
And that was the day I learned that people pay monthly fees for free data. (I heartily recommend Weawow. Free, does everything I want except tide tables.)
I also learned that Project 2025 is a conspiracy theory and I’m an idiot for believing in it. Live and learn!
Ging@anarchist.nexus 1 day ago
It’s all gotta get commodified
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 1 day ago
That’s how bad things have become. People don’t even realise what it’s like to own something.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I’ve been asked what a dvd is by a teenager. When I amended and said Blu-ray, they still had no clue. It’s only going to get worse.
shalafi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I don’t even own a player, for either format. Got 800 movies and years of TV shows on a pair of mirrored drives, backed to Google Drive. :)
20-years ago was wife was talking to another women in line at Walmart, “Me too! We get all our movies from aXXo! He’s the best.”
And somehow people forgot they could steal media with impunity. :(
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
Bro, I’ve got like 25 hours in the Final Fantasy Tactics Remaster, on my Steam Deck and laptop.
Yesterday, an update caused the game to launch with a black screen. So I tried a few different Proton versions, before I start getting a new error.
I take a look at the discussion board for the game on Steam… Fucking Denuvo considers each version of Proton to be a separate “activation” and it will only allow five BEFORE LOCKING YOU OUT OF THE GAME FOR 24 HOURS.
I have never really given a shit about Denuvo before, but this is so fucking infuriating. I paid for this game. I’ve already played 25 hours of this game. Now I can’t fucking play it?
Unbelievable. Denuvo is fucking trash, and I guess now I’m on it those people who avoids it.
ulterno@programming.dev 15 hours ago
I guess you were testing with multiple versions of Proton to see which one works the best? Otherwise, doesn’t make sense to have changed 5 versions in 25 hours.
If you were testing as such, the game publishers should be paying you for doing their job of quality testing.
SleepyPie@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I don’t think anyone read your last sentence lmao
whosepoopisonmybuttocks@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
It sounds like gog is pretty great, with their DRM free software.
I’m generally indifferent towards steam but I’m under the impression that they’ve contributed a lot to the recent developments in Linux gaming compatibility, and this has removed a pretty big hurdle for people who want to move away from windows, and I just think that’s swell.
Jesus_666@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
They could try to offer a proper Linux Galaxy client, though. Especially since CP2077 locks some minor things behind being launched from Galaxy.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
There will likely never be an official GOG Galaxy client for Linux, judging by the company’s utter disregard for Linux users. It was the most requested position on their community wish list, and they just removed it saying they have no plans on adding Linux support.
Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 21 hours ago
Well that sounds like a problem for Cyberpunk players, who I have no respect for
synapse1278@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
There is some CP2077 content you only get through GoG Galaxy ?!?
skibidi@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I love having to individually download all 50 parts to a game and write my own install script (the GOG experience on Linux).
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 hour ago
How common is that? I have maybe 5 games from GOG and none of them are like this.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Heroic works pretty well.
CatZoomies@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
I own ~670 games on GOG and lease 292 on Steam.
I’ve played maybe five of my GOG games to completion. I’m a gamer, dammit!
frog@feddit.uk 17 hours ago
It’s like Pokemon. Collecting is the game.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Half or more of all the games Amazon gives away through Prime are actually just GOG keys. If you already have Prime for some reason or another, you should be redeeming those free GOG keys.
Scrollone@feddit.it 23 hours ago
This.
I hate Amazon, but I’m subscribed to Prime and I’m getting a lot of free GOG keys.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
I wondered why some guy on my Discord kept giving out tons of free GOG keys. Guess it’s probably that?
Default_Defect@anarchist.nexus 23 hours ago
I have so many games I might not have even thought to go out and buy because of this.
possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 hours ago
Amazon is doing what now? Well, I’ll be damned. That’s never been made apparent to me.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 16 hours ago
They have been doing it, quietly, for years and they have given away amazing titles too.
SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
I would love to buy all my games from gog, but they lack steam’s regional pricing in my region, so most games are 4x the price on gog.
tatann@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
[deleted]rtxn@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
You try being happy about it when a game costs $240
SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
If the worst should happen, I will sail the seas to reclaim my ownership.
When you don’t earn dollars, it’s a lot of money.
sbf@feddit.org 17 hours ago
I wish games would host their own downloads like Factorio. Managing keys and such is probably not worth it since they can use Steam, GOG, or even Itch, buts it’s just so nice to be able to download stuff without a middle man.
I’m just glad I only play 2 games instead of the hundreds I’m reading about in these comments. I didn’t even know that was a thing people did!
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
I don’t play hundreds, but I do play dozens, and yeah, being able to just set 5 or so to download in the background when I’m running low is nice. I mostly play through single player games and uninstall when I’m done.
That said, I also really like how Factorio did it. I bought it directly from them way back in 2012 or something, then they gave me a Steam key, and I can still play the game today with all the updates more than 10 years later. They only made one DLC in the meantime, and that’s basically a new game, so I’m totally happy with that.
thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
Factorio devs are goated for their no-bullshit, high-quality product. I make damn sure I have a recent copy secured on my server, just in case. Inspirational humans like this keep me from the doldrums.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 hour ago
You might wanna reconsider that gushing praise. The Factorio dev is a screaming bigot with a long history of sexism, homophobia, and racism. And, when this is mentioned, complaining about “cancel culture”.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 7 hours ago
Gog is awesome? But it has a game launcher now i have to use if I wanna play homeworld cataclysm.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
If only they gave a shit about their users enough to respect their requests for official Linux support. Various forms of this made 3 of the top 5 requests on their community wish list. Which they casually deleted and told people to use wine/proton.
This is not a consumer-friendly company. It just so happens that their consumer-oriented decisions led to profits. The moment this is not the case, they immediately change course every time. Same might be true for Valve, but at the very least we can clearly observe them sacrificing extra profits for a tiny minority of Linux users.
GOG is still mostly fine for Windows builds of games. You can support the devs and get DRM-free copies to store indefinitely. However, we shouldn’t blindly praise them and ignore the obvious bullshit they take part in.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
I imagine that we Linux users are a very small share of their users. I don’t see anything malicious in it.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
I disagree. It depends how you define ‘malicious’, but in any case I strongly condemn this practice.
CDPR is perfectly happy to pretend they’re consumer-friendly whenever it requires no actual work and brings profits. But the moment they have to spend a cent on changes to actually fulfill their users’ wishes (which they themselves published a wish list for, mind you) - it gets absolutely shit on and the users are told to stop bothering them.
This is nothing but a clear display of what kind of company this is. People keep praising them for doing so much for the users. Meanwhile Valve has been losing money for years, just to help a handful of Linux gamers. No corporation is your friend, but if you really want to go with the ‘least evil’ option - just buy the game on Steam and then pirate it for indefinite storage.
bob_lemon@feddit.org 17 hours ago
Same might be true for Valve, but at the very least we can clearly observe them sacrificing extra profits for a tiny minority of Linux users.
Considering the Steam Deck exists, which necessitates Linux support, I’m fairly certain Valve is actively making profit from Linux support.
Which is a perfectly fine thing to do, and I really like it. But it’s not exactly altruism that’s driving their investments
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
It’s not altruistic, but it’s also not the behavior of a publicly traded company lol
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 15 hours ago
I love gog. Sure it means I need to pay (a small amount) for some decades old stuff, but it will work perfectly every time.
Wigglesworth@retrolemmy.com 16 hours ago
I’ll buy when there’s a native linux client.
Until then, “arr, maties!”
…and no, I’m not having a morality discussion about piracy. I do it full-well knowing it’s wrong.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 15 hours ago
Just use Heroic. A native linux client would just be worse and proprietary.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
That’s an odd thing to get hung up on. I buy more from Steam because the client is way nicer on Linux and they actually release interesting features for it. I could buy from GOG through Heroic, but they why should I expect them to properly support me on Linux when they don’t even bother to explicitly support Heroic (they do profit share, but that’s not quite the same), much less port Galaxy?
I personally don’t see piracy (i.e. boycotting) as a reasonable reaction here. It sounds more like you’re looking to justify piracy a deal looking for an excuse.
I’ll leave it there, but that’s my read here.
ulterno@programming.dev 15 hours ago
Why do you desire a Linux client?
I myself don’t want to have to open an extra software from the distributor, just to play my game.
It might then end up adding extra constraints like not being able to open multiple games at the same time on your multi-monitor setup.Wigglesworth@retrolemmy.com 14 hours ago
For the same reason I wouldn’t want a Linux client on Windows. It’s not made for it.
Valve/Steam can do it. Is there some excuse or reason why it’s unacceptable?
And Steam is downloaded the same on nearly every distro. The package is just an install script that translates any differing filesystem layout between distros. It all comes from Valve.
bobzer@lemmy.zip 16 hours ago
No regional pricing though. GOG is outrageously expensive in my country compared to steam.
boletus@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
Regional pricing is usually set up by the developer. Contact the developer of your favourite games and they may consider regional pricing, provided GoG allows them.
Paradachshund@lemmy.today 12 hours ago
That’s surprising. I wonder of it’s actually not supported, or if companies just don’t bother to set it up? Seems weird they would do it on one platform and not the other though.
banazir@lemmy.ml 18 hours ago
GOG does have its issues and controversies, but it’s still the only online gaming store with conditions I find acceptable. If the game is not available DRM Free, I don’t need to play it.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 day ago
I’ll have to admit, I’m too addicted to achievements to use GOG (AFAIK you can achievements on GOG if you use their launcher, but it doesn’t work on Linux). I’m going to regret that later for sure …
Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 22 hours ago
There is a reimplementation of the Galaxy Communication Service that allows you to get achievements, track play time, etc.
Heroic Launcher has it bundeled automatically.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 22 hours ago
Heroic is so freaking… Well… Legendary. :D
Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
games should just make an in-game achievements checklist that coorsponds with what steam would have shown. that’s all steams in anyways, a checklist.
Scrollone@feddit.it 23 hours ago
It’s more than a checklist though. You can see how many players got that achievement.
TootSweet@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’ve only bought one game from GOG. It was Morrowind and I’m playing via OpenMW. Good experience over all. Though I didn’t use the installer or the executable that came with the game.
I really want to see more FOSS reimplementations of game engines come into existence. Wine is fine and all, but I’d much rather have a native FOSS engine.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
That reminds me that Morrowind is currently discounted in GOG and I’ve been meaning to buy it and play it via OpenMW ever since I heard about the latter …
nixus@anarchist.nexus 1 day ago
Seriously. I pretty much only buy things off GoG nowadays. I can back it up to my own storage, and take it wherever I want. High-five to GoG.
DaddleDew@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s just how games used to be before the age of enshittification began
missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 hours ago
Maybe I’m not old enough but I don’t remember a time before game DRM, when it was physical games they required you to have the disk inserted to play. The only difference was they were easier to crack and less invasive.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 22 hours ago
I remember everyone freaking out when Spore was gonna have SecuROM that limited it to like 5 installs on a disc, and you were gonna have to ask EA for more if you needed them.
Some of the oldest DRM was weird little cipher wheels or puzzle books required to answer a challenge every time the game booted before it would actually start.
I dare say what GoG is doing is better than we’ve ever had it!
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 hours ago
A lot of games just came with a key on the user manual or the disk packaging, which was just an alphanumeric code the user entered during game install or on first launch and which was validated algorithimcally (no “phone home” to check a database of installs, back then).
Some games did required the disk to be inserted to play: the floppy, CD or DVD were mastered with strange characteristics that could only be there is mastered read-only media and could not be replicated in recorded media, so they worked like a physical key that allowed only one instance of the game to run at any one time. I would say this was a form of DRM, but non-intrusive since it didn’t try to take over parts of the OS and only affected that game when it was running.
The era of highly intrusive DRM whose impact went beyond the game itself started in the 00s when the use of the Internet became widespread, i suppose partly because it’s the cheap-ass solution for the problems of cheating in online games (the costly solution involves proper game server and systems architecture design and is more computationally demending on the server side) and online gaming was becoming big during that decade (for example, WOW is from 2004) and partly as a counter to how the Internet made it much easier to distribute first game keys and later game cracks.
The stuff we see in Steam is basically a centralized online keycheck, so the kind of thing which was common in the early 00s, only this one is more intrusive because it will check the key EVERYTIME YOU LAUNCH THE GAME, whilst the original key checking (both the earlier algorithmic check and later the “phone home” online checking) only checked once, either during install or at first launch, so with the Steam version you have less freedom: in the old days, algorithmic key check meant games could be installed and run entirelly offline, plus you were able to install the game in more than one machine, whilst online validation did require online during install or first launch but never again after that so you could play offline forever from then onwards, whilst the Steam kind at best only lets you be offline for a certain time period and then requires online.
The stuff in GOG is mainly how it was way back in the 90s before even game keys or, at most (and only for a handful of games) you get a game key which is validated algorithmically on install or first start, thus online is never required and nothing restricts you from installing the game in more than one machine (which is absolutelly legit if they’re all your machines and you only ever play the game in one of them at a time).
WALLACE@feddit.uk 21 hours ago
Yeah I remember having a copied Spyro game on the PS1 back in the 90’s where the fairy would warn you in game that it knows it’s been pirated and will fuck with the game to stop you from being able to finish it.
Not actually sure what it did as I never got very far, as I was a dumb kid only interested in charging around and breathing fire at the scenery.
CaptainHowdy@lemmy.zip 16 hours ago
It really is great if you’re on Windows, but I’ve run into issues installing GOG content on Linux.
steeznson@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
greentext reads like it was written by that old Chad-PS3 console… not sure famous it was but he referred to wiimotes as dildos
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 1 day ago
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KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 21 hours ago
At least you’re warned about the bullshit requirements for a particular game.
Reminds me of what fdroid and aurora-store do, warning the users of potential “disgusting” features. That’s respect for its users
archemist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
I like that fdroid is “this doesn’t meet what our users expect from our service, here’s why, and here it is anyway if you want cancer”
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 17 hours ago
Pretty common in flatpak managers as well
echodot@feddit.uk 22 hours ago
We always knew that battlefield would be like that. It’s an EA product after all.
I’m genuinely amazed it doesn’t have day one microtransactions, maybe that’s going later.
KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
There will be a season one battle pass with skins, but the guns, maps, etc. will be free.
drop-assets.ea.com/…/BF6_S1_Post-Launch_RoadMap_1…
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Yeah, don’t need to read further. I just avoid their crap on reflex.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
They even game me a refund after I bought KOTOR 1 without realising it was an EA game, saying I wanted to get a refund because I was boycotting EA.
I did comply with the less than an hour playtime for refunds, so they might have given it regardless, but it’s nice to know they accept refunds labelled as boycotts.
KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
It used to be even worse. In 2042, you had to install the EA app.