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Watched someone copy an entire file of Python code, paste it into an LLM, ask the thing to ‘remove all whitespace’, copy paste it back, and then be flabbergasted that there’s even more whitespace than before.
I’m thankful it was over a video call and not in person.
But… Python
Python has…
Python has whitespace semantics
You can’t just-
*sigh* we’re doomed
Then ask it to remove parenthesis from your C code.
The computer literacy of the younger generations is also alarming. While they’re pretty intuitive about using an app’s advertised features, they don’t seem interested in “exploring” computers and their capabilities like slightly older people.
What I’m saying is that the ability to convert to PDF lies exclusively with Millennials
It’s due to the fact that we are BRIDGE GENERATION … the generation that lived in a world without the internet or modern technology but got a front row seat in seeing it all come to what it is now. The generation before us were too old to care about the new things that were coming out so they never took the time to learn about it all. We were just the right age to be young enough to interested and old enough to learn about it. The generation after us have only ever know the modern internet and modern locked in devices we have today, so they didn’t have the interest or patience to want to learn about it all. We grew up in a time when computer systems ran like molasses so it was slow enough for us to have an opportunity to learn about how they worked and ran. We learned to tear apart computers and computer parts, put them back together and figure out how to run them. When we couldn’t afford to buy the latest software, we became pirates and crackers … and eventually, we learned to use Linux and open source software while also keeping our foot in Windows and for some of us with a bit more money, a foot in Mac as well. Now the tech world is becoming more and more locked in with software and hardware … it is getting harder for anyone to see what’s inside the box or to even figure out how to take it apart, rearrange it or swap parts or even to adjust anything. Young people just buy a solid state phone and they will never know or want to know what a CPU, RAM, SSD, HDD, GPU, PSU mean … and whenever that thing breaks down, they just chuck it, buy another one and start all over again.
I mentioned this before in another thread
Lot of younger gen x did all of that shit, with even less documentation and less mainstream support and community.
There is a small subsection of gen z that is absurdly tech literate and the rest can mostly operate a search engine
Yeah, I was shocked when I learned about that. I’m a millennial. I was under the impression, that since we were so far ahead of our parents concerning tech, the next generation will all be hackers. A friend of mine works in high school teaching IT. He told me, that today’s teenagers don’t know how to download a file from the internet. And when they do, they still don’t know where it is on the computer.
TBF, my (work) computer relentlessly tries to hide it. Why do things go to different files based on where I download from?
I once had to (try to) explain to a millennial how to type an URL into his browser’s address bar. To him, Internet and Google were literally synonymous. To this day, I can’t get over it.
I just had this exchange with my few years younger girlfriend who counts as a zoomer:
Me: So go into the Canon app and select from there the file you want to print
Her: …
Me: (showing on the phone) So go there, and now just browse for the file.
Her: uhh…
Me: Where did you save the file?
Her: I don’t know.
Me: Uh, so where’s the file?
Her: In the PDF app
She’s really smart, she uses Linux, she laughs about some of her same age and younger friends not having a clue about files and folders and stuff but phone is where this happens hah
To be fair, phone OSes go out of their way to obscure where files go for some reason. Android’s filesystem is somewhat arcane even when it’s completely transparent, and it’s mostly hidden behind apps that just say “Saved” or “Downloaded” and I’m left asking “okay but where!?”
Tbf, phones needlessly obscures file storage. Like why do I have to have a specific third party app just to have the normal file management functionality
How can someone who uses linux not establish knowing her phones folder structure and app folder usage?
That’s honestly quite interesting because all around my presense I hear a lot of sw engineer guys my age or younger.
Like outside of my computer engineering uni, one of my dancing teacher is aspiring to learn coding, I hear guys talking about software dev stuffs on my bus occasionally and such. I’m 24 for reference, so that’s just barely gen z tbf
As a Gen-X, I taught my millennial son how to build a computer (and he knows much more than me now). I assure you I know how to find where on the menu to convert to PDF. I also know how to do it via something like Gimp, or other tools. I also know when to not convert it to PDF. :p
From my observation there is a rare subspecies of gen xers who are frighteningly good with computers and by that I mean they cause me the biggest headaches and then there is the ultra rare gen x pc god who will flex about their powers at every chance.
Shoutout to that dad that helped us find and fix an error in our spf record 😅
Yanno I thought about ending my post with “of course there’s exceptions for every generation”, but I thought as much would be common sense and could be assumed.
My father, born in the 50’s, is also very tech literate, but his existence doesn’t mean there’s not a trend with boomers to be technologically challenged.
I got my then 5-year-old a laptop and put Linux on it for exactly this reason. So far they’ve only used it to play Minecraft (fortunately they didn’t like Roblox) but I figured this way it’s here when they are ready to learn.
They’ve just started getting good at reading, so I’m really excited to hopefully share some basic stuff with them soon.
I was driving limo and the CEO client (who I knew quite well, client-wise) spent the first 30 minute if the trip on the phone insisting that his original password be restored, as the ‘system’ was insisting it be changed.
He told me he has to repeat this every 4 months…
To be fair, simply forcing users to create a new password every X weeks is bad security policy.
I never got to attend school beyond high school but I’ve been able to get by in many things. I know quite a bit of technology, I build my own computers, used to tweak, adjust, maintain, fix and install/uninstall/reinstall my Windows software all the time … I’ve kept just about every electronic device I’ve ever owned over the past 20 years - and they all still function. Now I’ve moved onto Linux and open source software and now enjoy spending my time tweaking, testing, destroying and playing with it all as much as possible in my spare time.
Meanwhile, I have a couple of friends who are the same age as me and they came from well-to-do families who helped them go through years of university and now they’re doctors, lawyers, dentists, teachers and administrators.
They have a ton of training and schooling … yet I’m the one they come to for help when it comes to their home computers, work laptops and any electronic device. When they can’t get my help or I’m not available or I don’t have time, their usual solution to electronic problems is to throw the thing away and buy something new.
The disturbing part of seeing them throw away old devices, laptops and desktops is that no one ever thinks of wiping or destroying the drive. I’ve picked up so many old drives, laptops and devices that still have so much sensitive data on them its unbelievable.
I think doctors and lawyers needing help with their computer is fine. That’s the “I have a deep knowledge in this specific subject at the expense of not knowing much outside of it.”
But I’m more interested in knowing how you do your testing? Is it some super specific set of hardware / software? I ask because sometimes I have an issue and I don’t know if it’s some mixture of software packages or versions or hardware, or maybe I just found a bug and should report it.
Was in a “meeting” yesterday being confronted with this and I finally lost it on the guy. He told me I was being very unprofessional, raising my voice at him. Me? How about you asking about things that were taught on day one repeatedly and not retaining any of the answers I have given you in all my futile efforts? There is no fucking way in hell this guy would be qualified as an entry-level direct report to me after four decades in industry. I finally realized that level of wilful incompetence, in addition to posing as a colleague, adds up to stolen valor and complete disrespect and dishonor for those of us who put in our 10,000 hours 30 years ago.
I swear, that actor captures the face of psychotic, narcissistic rage so well it’s scary.
He did beat up a 21-year old while drunk, so maybe he’s able to channel something from deep within when he takes on the role.
That’s an actor? I thought he was a generic marine from a video game.
Save it from what?
A video!
from deletion
Adobe?
Wish I could help ya… 🤷♂️
SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 27 minutes ago
Reality check: you don’t make boatloads of money for having useful skills everyone has (or should have). You make boat loads of money when you have useful skills that few people have.
dr_robotBones@reddthat.com 20 minutes ago
The useful skill of being born rich so you could go to an Ivy League School.