In Poland these are common too. I fail to understand why someone would not install these windows in the first place
They have a right to feel smug
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BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
Sarctoth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Because my house already has windows
Eheran@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We have these windows, they are 35 years old and were most certainly not the first of this kind.
notarobot@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Bro. You should try linux.
brokenlcd@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
Coming from someone that builds them. At least where I live the mechanism is proprietary so it may not exist for every extrusion profile. Plus for big enough doors/windows the hinges to bear the load either don’t exist or get expensive quick.
Damage@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
I’ve got an 80cm door with double pane glass (of course) and metal-pvc construction that does this. It’s pretty heavy, it’d have to be a huge window to be heavier than that.
hOrni@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That was my thought when I was living in Denmark. Why would You have windows that open horizontally to the outside in a country where it rains almost every day, when You can have these.
Damage@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
Windows that open to the outside? That’s bizarre. The ones I’m used to open horizontally but towards the inside.
idunnololz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Bugs. Lots and lots of bugs.
moody@lemmings.world 2 weeks ago
Nothing prevents one from installing a screen on those windows.
toynbee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I thought these were doors. Them being windows makes a lot more sense.
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Don’t forget the mode where it’s anchored only in one corner and you freak out because you feel it will fall out any moment despite you know it won’t
Axolotl_cpp@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Wait what? IS THIS A MODE AND NOT ME MESSING UP??
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
It’s one of the things everyone experiences but no one talks about
towerful@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I feel like it’s a “can survive, but please fix quickly” kinda scenario.
I have no doubt the mechanism can support it. But used regularly will likely break something (where the entire fucking window falls into your room)maxmalrichtig@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Yeah! It’s the “you messed up mode”.
petrescatraian@libranet.de 2 weeks ago
Wait, it doesn't fall like that?lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
No, nothing will ever happen. Don’t worry
Lizardom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I lived in Germany for several years and moved to the U.S. and purchased a “fixer-upper” home. On the docket for replacement were the windows. To make a long story short, the cost of replacing every window on the house with a normal American window was within ~$1k of the price of a single “German” window. The cost to replace all of the windows with the German style was nearly the total price of the home itself.
So yeah, I would love to have those windows, but they’re not made or at least readily available in US markets.
DSTGU@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Economy of scale magic
socsa@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
This. I have these windows in one room in the US because I installed them myself. IDK if they are significantly cheaper in Germany, but for the price to have one professionally installed in the US I could have actually replaced the entire wall with floor to ceiling windows.
azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Just checked a local factory, 50x50cm is 100 € for a regular window and 200 € to open both ways (entry level PVC, not including installation).
All in all it’s not unheard of for bigger jobs to be south of 1000 €/window for professional installation, though you can get them for half that if you know the right contractors.
volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Now I wonder how much an American window costs over here
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Your dignity
Honytawk@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Those are just regular windows
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You can do the same with American windows–spend the cost of an entire house replacing your windows.
Andersen and Pella windows.
olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Guys, this doesn’t exist only in Germany.
source: I live in Eastern Europe and we have such superior window design.
rustyfish@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Lustig aber fick nazis
Redex68@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Same, this is the default in Croatia
maxmalrichtig@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
My father was a sales & marketing executive for a window company in Germany. You can prepare for a long rant whenever he sees “those dreadful sliding windows” in a TV show from the US or Great Britain. Like every time. 😅
socsa@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Me, being smug about how I can have a bookshelf on both sides of the window and still open it fully without a large piece of glass protruding into the room:
Noja@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
But how can you stoßlüften your room efficiently without opening the whole area of the window?
brokenlcd@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
Tbf it’s more of a europea thing. I’m Italian and I’ve installed hundreds of these.
Also… Assuming Liftup windows actually exist in America and aren’t just a myth. You.should be able to do something similar by jamming something in the window rail.
Standard swing windows though… Pray.
vateso5074@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sash windows are the common type used for American homes, though you’ll find a good mix of casements (typically the ones you have to crank to open/close.
The only deal breaker for me would be casement windows that open outwards. The area I live gets a lot of bugs in the summer, and so our windows have screens to help keep pests out while windows are open. Sash windows and casements that open inwards work fine with screens, but casements that open outwards typically don’t.
jqubed@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We took my in-laws back to my father-in-law’s hometown in France this summer and it was kind of mind-boggling to me how most of the homes had no air conditioning but also no screens on the windows to keep bugs out.
brokenlcd@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
I’m not sure how windows are installed elsewhere. But here usually you have a good wall thickness. It’s not uncommon to have aluminum/ steel shutters that swing outwards. For privacy. some form of screen for bugs. And then on the inside casement windows that swing on the inside. Either the normal kind or the tilt and turn style shown in the post (I think that’s how it’s said in English).
In this case it’s shutters with adjustable slats to let more or less light in. A steel “grating” (not sure how it’s called in English) for safety and a twin casement window.
BruisedMoose@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I have (in New England) a few windows that open outward and screens are just mounted inside rather than outside.
merc@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Every home I’ve lived in with casement windows has opened outwards, and has had screens. They work just fine. I don’t know where you get the idea that screens are more challenging if the window opens outwards.
In fact, it’s probably easier to deal with the screens. If the window opens inwards, the screen is on the opposite side of the glass, so to access the screen you have to fully crank the window open. If the window opens outwards, the screen is on the inside, and it can be removed or adjusted whether the window is fully open or fully closed. The only problem I’ve ever had is that if the crank is in an “up” position it can get in the way if you’re trying to take the screen off, but you just give it half a crank and you’re set.
merc@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
For why these are superior:
Fully open mode = big hole for air go thru.
Slanty mode = very windy ez, rainy ez, rainy and very windy… just close window.
But, the innovation I miss more than the windows were the roller shutters.
First of all, light blocking. Forget blackout curtains or something, just roll down the shutters and no light is getting in. If you work nights or something, you can block the sun completely and sleep in the dark. Along with that, the light is being blocked while it’s still outside. Why does that matter? Light means heat. In summer you don’t want the heat inside. Block it at the shutter and it doesn’t come inside to heat the inside of the house. Compare that with blinds, curtains, etc. In that case, the light has already entered the house before it hits something and heats it up. With white curtains you’ll reflect a lot of the light back out, but you’re still heating the interior of the house. They also reduce noise, add security, protect in bad storms, etc. But, to me, blocking the light and keeping the heat out was so much more important.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ich will zu Dort gehen
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
My American windows can also do this if I push hard enough.
Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My drunkenly installed American windows (previous owner, not me 😉) ALSO do this, but randomly throughout the house!
Some are so tight you break a sweat moving them (“locked”), some are so loose the top part falls out (angled), and some work normally (the normal one I guess)
ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Why is a normal window there? Or does it do something special?
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They are all one winder. You turn the handle in different dorections to get it to do different things. The “normal” one is just shut and locked
ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Lemme clarify - do you mean just this (this is a normal window to me, common like sand).
hOrni@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I always wonder why are they associated with Germany. Aren’t they the standard in most of central Europe? We’ve had them in Poland since the 90s.
hushable@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Because they were invented in Germany. But yes, they are the standard in most of Europe now, in some countries they are known as European windows
Valmond@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s like the French toilet, I mean the Danish toilet, sorry the Turkish toilet…
notsosure@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The handles of the current generation German windows even have a 45 degree position; the window is then opened on a tiny slid.
Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
We have those windows in Ireland, they are generally made and designed by Velux who are Danish.
pyre@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
this is not a German thing. they exist outside of Europe, let alone Germany, as pretty much standard. I’m actually surprised if Americans don’t have to this. although I think shouldn’t be, considering in how many ways it’s such an ass backwards country.
LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
these are far from standard for Americans. they’re luxury for sure and they’re called German windows.
Hupf@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Somewhat reminds me of en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/vasistas#Etymology
eluvinar@szmer.info 2 weeks ago
this is funny, because I’m pretty sure most sold in Germany are made in Poland
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
From where I am from, they are called Plastic Windows. Seems to be they were indeed either created or made popular by Germans.
Mikrochip@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
These windows are great until you want to get AC in a rental. Then you’d actually prefer the American style slide-up windows (ask me how I know) :/
deacon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Undeniably the best window design I have ever come across.
Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I live, laugh, and lüfte!
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Am American.
…What?
Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
German windows are (like a lot of things in Germany) extremely well engineered. This is a point of pride and whenever I have hosted Germans at my house (I’m Australian) they have actually brought this up with me.
It’s become a bit of a meme.
fox2263@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My back door does this. No one knows how to use it besides me.
Madison420@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
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JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Wait, doors can do that too? I have to try this on our door (I think it’s the same model as our window), so it might work.
fox2263@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yep. Had it 30 years and it confuses all that come to it for some reason. Yet it’s so simple. Handle in the middle like a regular handle opens it normally. Handle up opens it in tilt.
merc@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Yeah, my patio door did that when I lived in Switzerland. It was very confusing for visitors who moved the handle the wrong way.
jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
We have these here in the UK but the mechanism is the other way round, so that it makes to sense 👍
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Do you mean it makes sense like how your school lunch ladies appear to be called dinner ladies? That kind of sense?
Redex68@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What do you mean by the mechanism is the other way around?
towerful@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
1st position detent = tilt (small opening).
2nd position detent = door (big opening).I get that “horizontal handle = door” kinda makes sense… But doesn’t feel intuitive to me
TRock@feddit.dk 2 weeks ago
The only thing typically missing from these windows, are a hook or latch to prevent the windows from repeatedly opening and shutting when its windy
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I am thinking of airtight windows! No other country can build such airtight and beautiful windows. - Angela Merkel in a 2004 interview, answering the question what emotions Germany arouses in her
hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
So if a squirrel falls in the window while you’re gone, it’s stuck there until you open the window the right way?
zakobjoa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It opens to the inside.
fleg@szmer.info 2 weeks ago
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
I mean. Yes?
Echolynx@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I love these types of windows. Just need to add some mosquito/bug nets are you’re all set.
shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I have this window in my bathroom and I’m from the UK.
MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What’s with all houses getting those nowadays?
SleepNotRequired@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Shtatus
Loui@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I was fascinated with the older windows in Denmark. It’s a simple design but has so many variations Unfortunately I can’t find a picture.
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
I don’t get it. Is it a suicide meme, …like opening the window and jumping out ? Is it about the need for instructions on how to operate a simple window ?
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Having 30 days of paid holiday per year is nice too.
Ibuthyr@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
And a 35h work week.
Gonzako@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
that’s in effect in Germany? They tried instating it here in Spain but Corruption industrial complex didn’t let it through
capuccino@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They try so hard to make forget WWII
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
30 days of paid holiday per year is unfathomable to me.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Working in the US with no holiday and dodgy health insurance is unfathomable to me.
Valmond@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And paid sick leave.
hikaru755@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“only” 20 of those by law, though. Most employers will give you more than that, but it’s not guaranteed
Honytawk@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Depends on the amount of hours.
In Belgium, if you work 40 hours instead of the regular 38 hours, you get 12 extra paid vacation days (ADV) on top of the 20 regular ones.