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  • Opisek@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Just typical KRAFTON doing KRAFTON things.

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  • Bosht@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Oh fucking god dammit. I was really looking forward to it too.

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  • maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    “But it’s still mostly the same team, please give us the benefit of the doubt 😭😭😭😭”

    Don’t be stupid, don’t buy from a publisher before the 1.0 release

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  • fluxan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Natural Selection and then Natural Selection 2 - no games or communities like it. Before there time both of them and very much under appreciated. Felt like NS2 never really found it’s rhythm but Unknown World kept it going longer than most games.

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    • Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The original NS was so fucking good, man. I lived in that game for several years. The competitive scene was awesome.

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      • Tuxman@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Was that the half-life mod that mixed RTS and FPS?

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      • fluxan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Me too! Did in person LAN events and managed servers for Multiplay. No game will ever come close to the engaged community. Fusion X was my clan from start to end.

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    • TheBeesKnees@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Let me preface by saying NS/NS2 are my all-time favorite games

      NS2 had a terrible launch.* It was unstable, terrible performance, limited to no tutorials, and no match matching system. The game has an intense learning curve, and players who had thousands of hours from NS1 / Early Access. It’s also a game where cooperative play was imperative, so the matches really stink for everyone when teams are unbalanced / one guy curbstomps the other team.

      It did eventually address those things, but much of it came too late. I so desperately want NS3 to bring it new life… but that doesn’t ever seem to be coming. I want more games where I get to be the alien/creature/monster!

      My desperation hit an all-time high when I started making a game in Godot… ;-;

      *To be fair, they also needed to launch ASAP because they needed the money to stay afoat

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      • fluxan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I feel the same way - both take the top spot as my all-time best games.

        I will say - It was a mistake building their own game engine for NS2. I realise options were limited but they bit off more than they could chew and that came out in the launch and first 3 years or so, as you say. Yeah the co-op and commander concept was both what made it awesome and contributed to its downfall. They tried to make it easier by making it so Gorges became a support role rather than critical to the alien comm but was too little, too late.

        I would 100% back a crowdunded NS3, as I did with NS2. The eSports scene is far more mature now, it could work.

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  • JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Image

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    • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yo ho all together hoist the colours high…

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  • CocaineShrimp@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain

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    • ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      This looks less like heroes becoming villains and more like villains (who were always villains) tricking the hero and murdering them.

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      • RadicalEagle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Definitely died as heroes.

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      • athairmor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The founders are the villains of this piece as much as Krafton. They sold out for a big payday. This was all very predictable.

        You’d have to really dense to think that Krafton is going to come along with half a billion dollars and just let things carry on as usual.

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  • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I feel like I learn more about what I shouldn’t play then what games I should play when I am on here.

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    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You want to hear about a game to play?

      Clair Obscur. Made from former Ubisoft team members in what sounds like a healthy development culture and it’s a godamnned masterpiece at every level. Visuals, art direction, story, characters, mechanics, music - it’s all stellar.

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  • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Why can’t OG devs just opensource the code out of spite

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    • ebolapie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Would you wanna get sued for hundreds of millions of dollars in damages and lose?

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      • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Of course not, but let’s say one of the devs leaked it onto the internet😉

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  • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I don’t understand how game dev works, how does a publishing company fire the CEO of a game dev company. Like do these publishers own the game company?

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    • Wolf@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Very often they do, but now always. In this particular case they do.

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      • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Fuckin vertical integration bullshit

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  • AreaKode@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Arrrr…

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  • dil@piefed.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Don't use best coding practices, do not make readable code following good naming/formatting standards, have it only make sense for you in the moment and require weeks to debug even by you

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    • Gelik@feddit.dk ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You get it!

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  • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’ve never bought a game that isn’t indie since 5 years 🫡

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    • crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Same except I made an exception for fromsoftware lol

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  • firipu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    But can I still buy the OG subnautica?

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    • CodeBlooded@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Heads up: once in a blue moon it’s on “sale” for free on Epic Games.

      (Ask me how I know.)

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      • firipu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Fuck epic games, but I was happy I didn’t have to buy it a second time on steam to play it with my kid.

        I’m just contemplating to get the mobile version of Subnautica.

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    • i_love_FFT@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      What is the next project of the og subnautica creator?

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  • LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Pirate it is

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  • LifeCoffeeGaming@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Not sure I can support that take. Kinda focussed on the headline there and ignores the fact that other people work there also, that are probably relying on the success of this game for their paychecks and ability to keep making games. The dev industry in general is not in great shape atm.

    Let the courts sort out shady business practices imo.

    Support a decent game (if it is decent).

    Certainly don’t preorder. Looking at you internet denisons.

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    • SorryforSmelling@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      other people got paid already. they most likely wont loose money or portfolio if you boycott. its rare that lower level devs and artists are getting any percent of the sales numbers. This talking point from you is coming straigt from bigger publishers all the way to stockholders that have nothing to do with the product.

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      • LifeCoffeeGaming@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        If a studio goes under cause of lack of sales of a game it’s not the execs who suffer. Can’t see the point your making rn?

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  • UberKitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    they did such a bad job on Below Zero, this could be a turn for the better for the series. though if there are microtransactions that would kill it.

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    • berty@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Below Zero wasn’t a bad game.

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  • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I mean, I wasn’t planning on buying it before I played it anyway.

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  • CidVicious@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I thought the people fired were executives, not creatives.

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    • BombOmOm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah, I’m just going to wait and see. If it’s good, I’ll buy it, otherwise I won’t.

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  • MufinMcFlufin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Planning on not buying it, that being said I was likely never going to even if this controversy didn’t happen. I’m apparently part of 3% of Subnautica players on steam who really didn’t care for the game. Gave it a decent chance (7 hours playtime) and talked with several people who adore the game but found many aspects of the game to be overrated, poorly designed, or frustrating. Just about the only thing I can remember honestly enjoying about the game was the aesthetic, which even then was held back by some sometimes downright bad graphics.

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  • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    what’s unknown worlds? and why should I care?

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    • hydroxycotton@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Lemmy is not for you

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    • Someone64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’m so sorry there aren’t only posts about the latest Valorant skins here :(

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      • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        idk I thought unknown worlds was some kind of video game I’d never heard of

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  • Cheems@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Nooooooooooooooo I was literally just talking about being excited for this game.

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  • Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I will wait and see how its release goes, not that I ever pre ordered a game anyways

    I don’t have high hopes but I’m going to save my opinions for when it’s released

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  • DarkMetatron@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Just an Idea but could it be that the game was delayed because it is just not ready yet? Yes it could be an evil scheme sure, but maybe it is not. Has anyone here really any hard facts or insider information about the true status of the game?

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    • janewaydidnothingwrong@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s always possible but the announcement coincides with the abrupt termination of head staff so that makes it suspicious. Still could be just for quality’s sake though, I dont know if we can find out something like that unless they want us to

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    • Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      apparently the original devs were not interested in this lol

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  • NONE_dc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So is like what happened in ZA/UM with Disco Elysium?

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  • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Ok, no problem.

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  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Is this definitely what those devs are asking for? Sure this isn’t just cutting them twice?

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  • nthavoc@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    My last EA game was Battlefield 3 and I have never purchased an EA game since. Has that stopped EA? No. Why? People will buy it anyway because once their friends buy it, they have to buy it too. Companies all know gamer heard mentality. Your best bet is to slap that digital copy out of your friends’ hands right onto the floor. I don’t know how you do that, but that would be a nice thing to have.

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    • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      One of my more depressing moments in dealing with the human race was when people were boycotting Blizzard a few years ago for… well, everything. But the sexual harassment and discrimination scandal was the final straw for a lot of people.

      I talked about it with my gaming friends on discord at the time, everyone agreed that what the company was doing was terrible, but the more we talked about it, the more they delved into nostalgia and thought about how much fun they had playing WoW when they were younger.

      The next day I jump in discord and all five of them had reactivated their subscriptions and were having the time of their life running around WoW without a care in the world.

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    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The biggest crime in AAA games is the tools paying top dollar for preorders and early access to games that have beta-level problems with gameplay.

      Wait three or more months, they almost always go on sale and have had a patch or two. More playable, save $.

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    • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I was on an EA boycott for a while without even realising it. They just stopped making anything that interested me.

      Only broke it for It Takes Two and Split Fiction, which I paid full price for. I did play a few Respawn games as well (Titanfall 2 and the Jedi games) but got them either as part of PSPlus or Humble Bundles.

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  • absquatulate@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Jesus tapdancing christ is the subnautica fanbase rabid. How about we actually wait and see how the game turns out before we crucify everyone?

    I do agree that you should definitely not pre-order it and remove it from your wishlist. But you should’ve done that already.

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    • RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      How about we actually wait and see how the game turns out before we crucify everyone?

      Why does it matter how the game turns out if the stance is “we don’t want to fund shady developers fucking over content creators”?

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      • absquatulate@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Afaik krafton have been insisting for a while that the game is not ready. Founders disagreed and they were ousted. But seeing as the previous two games were in pretty dire state when they released into EA, I wouldn’t really trust the founder’s word on it. The whole “squirreling out of paying them 250 million” thing seems like speculation, but what do I know.

        Besides, the OP is just ragebainting, seeing as we know exactly fuckall about the game’s actual state at this point.

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  • Gelik@feddit.dk ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Can we buy Subnautica 1 still?

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    O no!!! I didn’t even buy subnautica one!!!

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