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in my experience, culturally, drinking one (1) 4.8% ABV 33ml can of beer in Europe is drunk driving
Drinking two (2) 6.2% ABV fl oz (946ml) glasses of beer and smoking weed in the USA is not drunk driving.
Not defending it, just saying that it was eye opening how many people in the US get behind the wheel after drinking what they consider a small amount of alcohol
Probably also doesn't hurt that the US is generally far more reliant on driving to get anywhere. There's a higher tolerance for doing it dangerously since there's no alternative
When I suggest taking drivers licenses away, my fellow Americans act like Iâm suggesting the death penalty.
I used to live way outside of town and there werenât any night buses on weekdays, so I got a moped at 15. I just didnât drink at all when I hung out with friends on weekdays, even when I turned 16 and it became legal, because I had to drive. It wasnât hard to do and nobody batted an eye. So, the alternative is not drinking. Having no alternative transport is a poor excuse for drunk driving.
What are we supposed to do?? NOT DRINK?
Legally speaking in the USA anything after the first is driving while intoxicated/under the influence (different states use DWI or DUI).
Working in the booze biz you are sadly correct though. I had a wine rep a few years back offer to pay for my parking in NYC if I went to a tasting. I told him I was taking the train and he was surprised. He shouldnât be.
driving while intoxicated/under the influence (different states use DWI or DUI).
I thought it was a matter of severity, with DUI being over the limit but not obviously impaired and DWI driving while thereâs no doubt that youâre drunk, leading to more severe punishment?
You really donât need to swallow at a wine tasting. In fact youâll be able to taste a lot more without starting to affect your judgment if you donât.
Yeah. Youâre not gonna find many Swedes getting behind the wheel regardless of alcohol amount. There used to be a HARD stigma against it, since we know what happens. People used to get so drunk that we had to create a state monopoly of alcohol sales, in an attempt to reduce it. People argue about the actual effect, but i know that itâs cultural suicide to get behind the wheel drunk. The legal limit is 0,2 ppm alcohol.
The Danes however⌠They could drink 3 halfliter lagers before reaching the legal limit of 0,8
Danish limit is 0,5 like most of Europe. Most people here have a rule of thumb of 2 regular beers.
weâve even recently had a controversy where people had some blood tests done (or something like that) showing elevated levels of pETH or whatever itâs called, and this made them lose their license.
really wish weâd just mandate beathalyzer locks in all cars instead
Road deaths & accidents in the USA are like twice that of Europe.
But thatâs okay. Accidents are just thatâunavoidable and random. Thereâs absolutely nothing else that can be done, so we might as well shrug and accept our fate. When a poor kid gets flattened by an SUV, the only reasonable response is to sigh, feel sad for a moment, and then move on. After all, questioning the design of our roads or the size of our vehicles would be an affront to the gods of chance and the sacred right to drive anywhere, anytime.
Europeans might obsess over safety, but we know better: the universe writes its own traffic plan, and sometimes the ink is a little redder than weâd likeâŚ
There's a time factor as well. One standard drink per hour will keep a normal sized adult below about 0.05 bac indefinitely.
In NL you are allowed to have 0,05% of alcohol in your blood, which is about 2 Dutch classes. We often server 0.2L glasses these days, it sucks âŚ
rijksoverheid.nl/âŚ/mag-ik-met-alcohol-op-deelnemeâŚ
And waith you can have almost of litre of beer in your blood and it is still not drunk driving? Yeeeez, especially considering the US is a shit place to walk or bike. No wonder why there are so many drunk driving accidents
to clarify I am speaking âculturallyâ not legally.
Most people go out for drinks and drive home.
in wisconsin you arent legally considered an adult until you get a dui
Thank fucking god
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Twitter threading does not make any sense to me.
Twitter uses top posting.
Twitter threading does not make any sense to me.
!onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone also does âtop postingâ⌠just a different kind
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Twitter uses top posting.
Twitter threading does not make any sense to me.
Twitter does not make any sense to me.
Thatâs not exactly a bad thingâŚ
For every person who thinks theyâre interesting for hating a popular thing, thereâs ten who will be like OMG YOU THINK YOURE SO SPECIAL AND BETTER THAN EVERYONE when you casually mention you donât particularly care for a popular thing.
VIRTUE SIGNALING
Broke: Driving while intoxicated.
Woke: Cycling while intoxicated.
A friend broke his skull while cycling drunk.
Yikes. Did he make through?
Always wear a helmet!
Fun fact you can get a DUI on a bike!
In some countries you can even lose your (car) driving license when cycling drunk.
I think that makes sense too. Sure a drunk cyclist is less of a problem than a drunk motor vehicle operator.
But as the third party you still donât want 100 kg (200 pounds) of dude and aluminium frame running into you at 20 km/h (12.4 mph), if you are a pedestrian, a second cyclist, or a biker.
It depends on the state/country. Where I am you can get a drunk in public charging, but DUI requires operating a motor vehicle.
Let people not enjoy things. đ
Iâm gonna really give the pro drunk driving crowd a piece of my mind with this spicy tweet
Is there a pro drunk driving crowd?
ATV enthusiasts?
This is so true. For example, Werner Herzog hates the French language, despite speaking it fluently. He once had to regrettably speak French when he was held at gun point by drunk child soldiers in Africa.
Pretty uninteresting guy, Iâd say.
I hope this is sarcasm. Herzog is a fascinating guy, even if you donât watch his movies or read his works. Just watch any interview with him and you might be surprised how interesting his views on things are.
It was very obviously sarcasm.
I thought that bringing up him being held at gun point by drunk child soldiers in Africa and forced to speak a language you hate was pretty obviously the opposite of boring.
I was making fun of the meme.
I hate a lot of popular things. But thats just cause im a cynical asshole
I like video games
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That doesnât make you more interesting but it doesnât make you any less interesting either! Huzzah!
PS: which would you say is the best Fallout game and why is it New Vegas?
fuck video games.
NOW PLAYING: Michael Jordan of Drunk Driving by AJJ the band
Lemmings in shambles.
He says on the âI hate Redditâ forum.
Oh! I know this one! I grew up with an alcoholic narcissist. This is the part where the drunk rants for hours about how unfair the world is and how theyâre the real victim.
Youâre not special. You sound exactly like every other âfunctionalâ alcoholic right before they end up on the news for killing a mother of two, with a sad faced mugshot, lip poked out like theyâre the one who got hurt.
But hey, what would I know? Iâm just a funeral director. Itâs not like I have to deal with the aftermath of people like you, right?
And youâre rightâitâs totally unfair to expect you not to drive your drunk ass home. Itâs not like you could drink at home, or get a ride, or call an Uber, no! You have to drink and drive. Anything else would be unreasonable.
What the fuck is all of this? Are you trying to rationalize your own drunk driving?
You do not understand tolerance. Start here:
This study demonstrated that heavy social drinkers, categorized by their persistent and predominant adult pattern of drinking and regular bingeing, exhibited comparable alcohol-induced impairment to that of light social drinkers in such areas as fine motor and dexterity skills (Pegboard) and processing and encoding functions (DSST) following consumption of a moderate-to-heavy dose of alcohol (4-5 standard drink equivalent).
Basically even if you donât âfeelâ intoxicated, your psychomotor performance will be impacted as much as anyone else. If anything, itâs more dangerous, because youâre going to be less aware of how intoxicated you are.
This effect is especially noticeable if you see someone drinking on Vivitrol. They donât feel drunk, but they keep drinking and slurring their words, stumbling, etc. The way that alcohol affects the limbic system and creates that sense of euphoria is separate from how it affects your motor coordination, and balance, speech, vision, etc.
DONT DRINK AND DRIVE.
And if you do, I pray you end up in prison for DUI rather than manslaughter. Fuck you for even spending all that time and effort writing an essay on how reckless use of a deadly weapon in public spaces is okay if youâre an addict.
Tl;dr - Selfish person thinks people being fully cognitive while driving a 4,000lb vehicle is silly. Makes argument about how governance doesnt defend your life, while also arguing that they should impede on visibly intoxicated people⌠Like the thing we already do⌠That he is arguing againstâŚ
I'm not reading all that man
the government saying we can make you safer by limiting your behavior is just tyranny
I know, right? Thatâs why I should be allowed to wildly swing a machete around public spaces. Because limiting my ability to do so is tyranny!!! And kids should be able to bring grenades to school because we wouldnât want to impede on their rights! Fucking /s if you couldnât figure that out.
And your entire gun analogy makes zero sense. Regardless of anybodyâs opinion on gun control laws, it is true that you will be able to better defend yourself against a bad guy with a gun if you also have a gun. But driving while youâre drunk will not make you any safer when the guy in front of you is also drunk. The two subjects are nothing alike.
Nah, driving is a privilege, not a right. You donât NEED to d Iâve and you absolutely donât need to drive while impaired. Even if you think youâre good, youâre not. There are THOUSANDS of cases of people being killed by drunk drivers who thought they were good.
Holy no paragraph breaks batman!
Time to lay off the meth, I thinkâŚ
Given the potential to do harm, driving is a privilege. Personal views on whether one can drive under the influence of substances are irrelevant as vulnerable road users would be exposed to much more risk than the driver. Bystanders pay the risk thatâs taken by the driver.
It would be good if societies would work in a way that acknowledges that not everyone can/should drive or owns a car. This would mean better public transport, improved zoning, better facilities for walking and cycling.
ChatGPT, summarize this for me
Hahaha hahaha alcoholism.
Hahaha hahaha so funny.
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cRazi_man@europe.pub â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
Itâs fine to hate popular things, but donât ruin other peopleâs fun.
Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
If light criticism is ruining your fun, I don"t think critics are the problem
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
I think this is more for the random person that attacks people for being fans of things eg adults attacking adults because they like Legos
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
immediately does the thing