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• Don_alForno@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “Inflation decreases” means “the prices are being raised slower”.

  What you are looking for, prices going down, is “deflation”. Governments generally do their best to avoid that, because people would start holding off on purchases expecting lower prices next week, month, quarter,… and it would tank the economy.

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  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If not so much about holding purchases. Is about money sitting. With deflation your money is worth more each day. So investment is discouraged. Why risk money if money by itself grow?

    In a economy based on investments that not desired

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    • toastmeister@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think its because deflation is when the money supply is contracting, so asset values begin to be valued at their actual value instead of their inflated nominal value. Which an inflated nominal value causes more consumption via the wealth effect, and the misallocation known as the business cycle.

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  • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Governments generally do their best to avoid that, because people would start holding off on purchases expecting lower prices next week, month, quarter,… and it would tank the economy.

    That’s not how human nature works. If people need groceries, they aren’t going to hold off purchases until the prices go down.

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    • gingernate@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Right, but instead of spending 1200 a month they are only spending 800.

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• ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Inflation decreasing just means that prices aren’t rising as fast anymore.

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  • Dicska@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Also, if you’re rooting for deflation: more ofthen than not, when deflation happens, things are not going great in terms of economics.

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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I just wish we’d have neither inflation nor deflation.

      Candy bars used to be $0.50 when I was a kid. That would probably equal the buying power of $1.25 today. But candy bars are like $2, and about half the size.

      I just want it to be still $0.50, and not get smaller.

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    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      LOL, yeah… Cause shit is going great in America right now.

      Deflation bad, fascism good.

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    • whotookkarl@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s more run away/chain reaction type events you want to avoid I think rather than a low % inflation or deflation that remains relatively stable, swing too far in either direction and you going to have problems.

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  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s thinking like a corporation. The rest of us just stop buying games.

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• Pxtl@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That’s not how inflation works.

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• nuko147@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Inflation positive --> prices increasing

  Inflation near zero --> prices stable

  Inflation negative --> prices decreasing, but you are in a huge economic crisis

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  • piyuv@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Inflation near zero and salaries increase -> purchasing power increasing, which is something we can only dream about

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    • jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The US was on its way to that, until Trump and Republicans decided to trash the entire world economy.

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s not something that can be solved by changing interest rates. To increase wages you need unions and for those unions to go on strike.

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    • peoplebeproblems@midwest.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It is possible, but financial types will tell you that you will lose your job. Which is funny, because most products and services require labor to make any money from them, so it sounds to me that if deflation occurs and profit is still required, you have the option to layoff a bunch of people or get creative.

      Maybe it’s just me, but I’d be a lot happier if I had a bunch of employees that know how the business works and know where things can be improved and do it. Maybe like getting rid of managers who only know how to change the headcount of their bit of the org.

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• WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.

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• Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I just want to say inflation decreasing doesn’t mean that prices will go down

  If anything, inflation measures the acceleration of price increases.

  If this acceleration still is positive, but, less than before, there is still a price increase.

  It is only less than it would have if it hadn’t decreased

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  • Auntievenim@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Degrowth economy baby!!! We’re getting it!

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• umbraroze@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Game prices have nothing to do with inflation (or even production costs) and everything to do with arbitrary price points the industry just settles upon. Nothing forces them to charge that much, yet they do it because they think they can get away with it for now.

  Rising prices have had an effect on me - I’m definitely not buying as many games as I used to, least of all impulsively on hearsay, and I’m not trusting any publisher enough to preorder stuff anymore. So they went past my pain point, sorry. If they keep doing this, they’ll run over everybody. I don’t think this is a sustainable direction.

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• Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  PC + emulators = fuck greedy corporations. Get fucked Microsoft. Get fucked Nintendo. And Sony? Fuck you too. Indie devs tho, you’re cool.

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  • Grimm665@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Image

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  • Goronmon@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, thankfully with PC gaming there are no large corporations involved.

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• Draegur@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  A headline in the near future:

  “are millennials killing the gaming industry?”

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  • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Millennials are no longer the media scapegoat; we’ve aged out. Gen Z are copping all the blame now!

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  • DoubleSpace@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The problem with millennials is that they firmly believe a McChicken should never cost more than a dollar.

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    • DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      A McChicken is definitely not worth more than $1 lol

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    • Draegur@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I was born in 85 and I think 1.50 would have been an appropriate price for McDoubles and McChickens. But not three fucking dollars

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• Goretantath@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Prices will only come down if the company decides to stop being greedy. Inflation is just a word to oppress the poor, theres no need to keep prices raised if record breaking profits are made.

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• piskertariot@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Steam: Games are $5 if you’re willing to wait.

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  • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Or if you’re like me and don’t care about the latest big studio games. I play games by development teams with less than 10 people, tending towards just one person. I have no desire to play any of Nintendo’s newest games.

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  • november@lemmy.vg ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Or they’re free if your library has video games.

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    • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Or they’re free if you’re willing to sail the high seas

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  • shplane@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I wish Factorio would go on sale but the makers said that’ll never happen

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Probably closer to $10 going forward. $5 just isn’t what it used to be.

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  • RagingRobot@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s the best model. Nintendo games used to get cheaper over time too. Idk how that stopped so easily. I guess you can’t find them used without game stop in most places though so they are happy to keep it high

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• Solemarc@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  In my local currency (Aussie Dollars) AAA games cost $120. Like, man, I’m not spending $120 on a game. I can’t remember the last time I bought a game at that price.

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• itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If we don’t buy $80 games, they WILL put them on sale. I haven’t paid full price for a game since Horizon FW came out and it’s worked out pretty well.

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• morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  maybe just don’t buy it? life goes on, you can play something else

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• BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Why are people so desperate to play new games, I’ve got a large pile of games I bought on sale that I haven’t even played once yet. Why would I ever pay launch price for a game knowing full well it’ll be worth 10$ a couple of years down the line, and till then I’ll play the games I already own.

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  • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s basically FOMO, people just want to be a part of living culture.

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    • BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And game companies and media outfits advertise the shit out of them because they drive console sales.

      I much prefer to be on Steam, think, “Oh, that looks cool,” then forget about it on my wishlist for two years until it pops up at 80% off.

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• BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Buying new games is decreasing in value sharply. They are releasing broken games, overpriced and with invasive DRM.

  Play games 2+ years delayed. They are completely fixed and in a playable state, reasonably priced with frequent sales and some game get their shit DRM removed for better performance.

  And no. Games as a service and fomo are NOT enough to buy games on day one.

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  • Peffse@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Doesn’t work on Nintendo, for some reason. Mario Tax expanded to anything first or second party, so the best you’ll see is $20 off new price on Mar10 for the games that came out 5 years ago. It’s like every retailer came to the agreement that Nintendo games don’t depreciate.

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    • BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You have to emulate Nintendo.

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    • Tudsamfa@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Best way to get 20$ off is to buy the game 2nd hand.

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• monkeyman512@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeah, prices will only go down if sales go down massively. And since video games are likely being used as an emotional coping mechanism, that seems unlikely.

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The thing about demand/supply ratios is there’s also cost.

    AAA games aren’t coming down in sticker price without actual deflation. That’s just not how it works. That they were selling at $60 for so long is a function of cost reductions in an industry where the only thing left to cut is employee costs or the widespread adoption of AI dreck.

    If you want a game for less than $80 you’re going to have to buy games with smaller development scopes.

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    • monkeyman512@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      True. This may actually be a boon to smaller devoplers who can sell games for less money because there development costs are less ambitious.

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• otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Should’ve been “Until the tariffs are gone, right?”

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• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Lol. I won’t buy them, so I don’t care.

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• FuckFascism@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Indie games are the future.

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• Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That’s really not how inflation works. We’d somehow need negative inflation, which probably only exists in the nightmares of economists.

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• LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Anyone who thinks Sony won’t be on this train by the summer is kidding themselves

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  • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sony started the $70 game increase. Nintendo is just following Sony, really.

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    • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      One upping*

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• formergijoe@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Finally, video games cost as much as Chrono Trigger did when it came out!

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• mriormro@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Allow me to introduce you you Expedition 33.

  I haven’t finished it yet but it’s fucking great. I bought it and thought it was on sale. Turns out that was just the MSRP.

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• Vince@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Taking the most naive view here, but is there any chance, increasing the price will in any way prevent more layoffs in the video game industry?

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  • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No

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  • amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    no, if anything it will increase them because prices going up is almost always tied to mass layoffs. austerity package and all that.

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  • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It lowers the threshold of how many copies need to sell before a given game breaks even on its budget. It also lowers the number of copies it will sell, because some percentage of people who would have bought a game at the lower price no longer find it to be worth what they’re charging for it.

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• southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Prices never go down for things like that, they only go up.

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• then_three_more@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That’s not how inflation works. Inflation going down means they just stay around 80 and in theory your wages gradually come up so 80 now feels like 40.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If inflation is zero, your wages won’t rise all that much. Most of your yearly wage is to keep up with inflation, so if you’re not getting promotions, don’t expect to beat inflation by much.

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    • then_three_more@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If productivity is going up wages should go up. However what has been happening is that the extra money has been being funneled into the pockets of the rich. I’ll bet you the board and senior management ain’t giving themselves inflation based pay rises.

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• RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Why didn’t you include Sony in this image? They increased prices even before Nintendo.

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• MrNesser@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Remember when we were told games cost so much because of packaging

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  • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It was a nontrivial cost that factored into the price, and the switch to digital is a large part of why game prices were so inflation resistant for so long.

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• Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Those games are so expensive because people will pay those prices. There are plenty of cheap games to be had.

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