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A daunting realization

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨lena@gregtech.eu⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • RustyNova@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh really?

    Then let’s accelerate climate change. I won’t let those green fuckers win

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    • medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s right! Besides food, clothing, housing, tools, weapons, erosion control, and beauty, what have the plants ever done for us?

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      • thenextguy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Brought peas?

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      • Notyou@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Medicine. A lot of plants are used in medicine as well. Asprin came from tree bark.

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      • GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        They literally just fucking sit there, I’ve seen Jumanji I know what they could do, they just choose not to

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      • yogurtwrong@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        drugs

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      • idunnololz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah but do those fir the wring reasons. If you were a slave and your master gave u food, clothe and housing would you think “wow what a wonderful master”? Well its like that but with the plants. They are enslaving us and we csnt just let them get away with it. /s

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    • Sergio@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s too slow. Take us to defcon one.

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      • Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m Jewish, so unfortunately, Kanye has already taken me to death con 5. But I’m not sure if those are related.

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    • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Won’t the extra CO2 just help the heartier plants (weeds) take over?

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  • zante@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yuval Noah Harari light heartedly raises the question in his book Sapiens, of whether men domesticated wheat or wheat domesticated humans.

    Humans went from wandering through the world exploring and foraging, to doing the back breaking work to grow and farm wheat.

    Wheat went from being fairly unsuccessful in evolutionary terms, to covering something like 20% of the earths surface !

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    • ratel@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Something similar is suggested to a lesser extent about psychedelic mushrooms by Melvin Sheldrake in Entangled Life. No where near the same scale as wheat, of course.

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  • tetris11@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Another Sapiens reader. Look, I don’t care how uppity those maize are – there’s no way they trained us into cultivating them, we slaughtered their brothers and sisters and kept only the tamer, weaker, fatter renditions that we could use for our own means.

    Corn is not sentient, and I will die on this hill!

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    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I feel like I heard this perspective elsewhere…it may have been The Hidden Life of Trees by Peter Wohlleben. Which I really enjoyed, myself.

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      • rowanthorpe@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well, you must be a real fungi at parties.

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    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Corn is the vegetation equivalent of a cubicle dweller.

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    • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ah, but you forget, Maizen have a collective identity, so stalks think nothing of sacrificing their individual lives for the good of the whole.

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      • tetris11@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        if they compete for sunlight and happily smother their brethren in this fruitful pursuit, then they’re no better than us at chucking each other under the bus in the name of this so called collective ‘progress’

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    • lena@gregtech.eu ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Giving in to the wheat propaganda, I see

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      • tetris11@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        YOU BETTER RUN, EGG!

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    • GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Relevant

      youtu.be/CmJYZ1NIn1Y?t=64

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    • notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      that was an edgy idea in the book, but stuff like that happens in ecological systems all the time. I read the book around the time of the election, and it read like a manifesto to justify oligarchic takeover as the next phase of human development (see the part how societal rules where assigned to the government and how the internet will take it back)

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  • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The common, did we domesticate XYZ, or did XYZ domesticate us? Conundrum.

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    • Chakravanti@monero.town ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Myc is the real death dinner monster. When everything dies, it’ll be them that don’t and then eat everyone else’s of whatever’s left.

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    • Today@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Cats

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      • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yep. We feed cats, they kill pests which give us disease and spoil our foods.

        Makes you think that domestication is maybe the wrong paradigm, neither or us domesticated each other (or we both did) but truly it’s a mutually beneficial partnership, something that is actually common in nature.

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      • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Old Deuteronomy.

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    • AreaSIX@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      www.dailymotion.com/video/x2b3rb0

      This is part one of “the botany of desire”, exploring how four plants, apples, tulips, cannabis and potatoes have adapted human desires, which in turn has made them some of the most successful plant species around the world. The rest of the parts are on Dailymotion too for those interested.

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  • Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yup, bury me in a burlap sack in a deciduous forest.

    Why deciduous? Because fuck pine trees, that’s why. I don’t want to feed those assholes.

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  • CaptObvious@literature.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oof! Cool perspective

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  • GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wouldn’t fungus be more immediately interested in being among us?

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    • lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      More like fungsus

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      • jdf038@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There isn’t mushroom amongus for the fungus to rule. They won’t be able to be a funguy and party.

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  • Dogsoftulkas@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is my tune, not only biocentric, but also a very healthy dose of anti-anthropocentric. A species traitor, if you allow me to be as bold.

    I really don’t think that talk about humans being the god on earth, center of the universe, with a metaphysical excuse to exploit everything around us is doing wonders to our health nor long term survival… And obviously the “sapiens” of our epithet is only there because we gave it ourselves chef’s kiss

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    • jdf038@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s also a very Buddhist outlook. Not because of anything specifically antihuman or pro ecology but simply because we as humans are part of a cycle that lives and dies. We don’t have a say.

      You could say our karma is that we will be too proud and be too exceptionalist and end it all earlier than expected because we couldn’t come together and take care of the earth.

      It sucks but the earth will go on for a few more billion years without us.

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      • Dogsoftulkas@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh yeah, I believe nature, the planet, will carry on, we’re just shooting ourselves in the foot. I just feel for the part of it that won’t survive our stay.

        Sometimes I make this joke about all currently living higher primates, including us, sitting at a table, and we are yeeting our way around the room, and the other primates look at eachother and go "wait, that’s the sapient one?? :D

        I think we as a species took a very nasty turn in our evolution, either biological or social, that allowed us to “break away” from nature, so to speak, and create that duality Man/ Nature that in my opinion really didn’t work that well. I’m pretty sure other animals have a consciousness too, so probably being conscious and self aware is by itself not the culprit. But something makes us feel so far removed from the rest of life that I find really unsetling, and it also only makes dealing with being that much more complicated, for example, not being able to accept death like you said. In that aspect, some religions are definitely better than others to mitigate that damage. Either way, I’m just here doing my best and hoping for the best!

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    • beejboytyson@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Anthropism

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      • Dogsoftulkas@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        yuck

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  • introvertcatto@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Symbiosis

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  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Jokes on them, we’re going to put carbon into the atmosphere faster than they can process it raising the global temperature to the point of extinction

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  • gofsckyourself@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Image

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    • Psythik@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why?

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      • gofsckyourself@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Because it amuses me. Next time I’ll make sure you are okay with me having fun before posting anything.

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    • rowanthorpe@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In reality, we are actually farming jpegs, by posting reencoded versions of them daily, until they all eventually decompose so we can merge with them.

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is why I don’t eat edibles lol.

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  • Simulation6@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The primordial soup developed animal life to reproduce itself. We are all basically the reproductive stage for crap.

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  • HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I wanna fukken die, free my soul, the plants can have my body

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  • General_Shenanigans@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Eukaryotes likely evolved during The Great Oxidation Event which saw oxygen levels rise to levels that were toxic to the Cyanobacteria (which use photosynthesis). We evolved to save them!

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  • Spacehooks@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We all give back in the end one way or another.

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  • esc27@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cue music: “It’s the circle of life”

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  • OpenStars@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And yet we're here for it:-)

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  • stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Or - get this - it is all a cycle.

    We could call it the carbon cycle!

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    • spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Pfft, next you’re going to be selling me on the idea that we’re all made of carbon

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  • RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is some Trump level zero sum understanding of mutual benefit.

    OP is probably going to be appointed Secretary of the Interior to shoot all the DEI trees and end woke oxygen.

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    • lena@gregtech.eu ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Lmao perhaps, make breathing great again(note: I do not support trump, this is just a joke)

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      • OpenStars@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Fwiw, you are on Lemmy now: (virtually) nobody thinks that you support Trump:-D

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The circle of life

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    • OpenStars@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      img

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  • TangoNoir@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s mutually beneficial gardening.

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  • Vespair@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Reminds me of this modern classic: youtu.be/Cf2Q-McO_Fw

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    • jdf038@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thanks so much for posting that. I hadn’t heard it before and loved it

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  • zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I was going to sleep you know…

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  • kn0wmad1c@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s like a circle

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  • Winterfrost@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So deep!!

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  • MeatPilot@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh yeah plants? Eat my ass!/ Wipes ass with toilet paper

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  • Zerush@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fungus rules them all

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  • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What? Why does no one in the comments mention that plants don’t decompose dead bodies? This statement is just utterly wrong.

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    • howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nowhere does it say that plants decompose bodies. It says they consume us after we’ve been decomposed.

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      • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I misread, thanks for clarifying :)

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  • DimlyLitFlutteringMoth@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ahhh, Semiosis had it right all along!

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