Being on time doesn’t require effort? How’s the weather in Neurotypia?
Effort require Effort
Submitted 1 month ago by sag@lemm.ee to [deleted]
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watersnipje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Also, body language
I don’t even know what’s that supposed to meaaaan
TheBat@lemmy.world 1 month ago
desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
I think body language means keep the middle finger pointed at the ceiling constantly.
slaacaa@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Attitude
danc4498@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This has to be parody
Furball@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
These exist in a ton of classrooms unfortunately
obinice@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Classrooms? I thought this was up in an office, damn they’re really trying to brainwash kids to hate themselves early wherever that is eh :-(
Our schools aren’t perfect, but I never saw anything remotely like that here, any messaging was always very positive and supportive and stuff.
danc4498@lemmy.world 1 month ago
To be funny? If I was a teacher I would totally have something like this up.
Thcdenton@lemmy.world 1 month ago
pyre@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I get the joke but the fish is low quality too so it’s a bit of an own goal as well.
slaacaa@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Things that don’t require effort:
- Effort
Hmmm…
radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The one thing that requires zero effort is shutting the motherfucking hell UP during a lesson, but my 8th grade students can’t seem to make it happen, so I separated their desks yesterday afternoon and pointed all of them forward, and they’ll no longer be engaging in group work.
blackbelt352@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Shocking that the offspring of a species that became the dominant species on this planet exactly because we evolved nearly effortless communication and social traits would be included to be social with other people.
Not saying you’re a bad teacher, you just fighting an uphill battle against our natural instinct to be social creatures in an education system that does everything it can to ignore that kids generally do like and actuall do need to be social for healthy development.
radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’ve been teaching for 18 years. Every year before this one, things have gone relatively well. They talk a little, I quiet them down, we have a lesson, time is embedded in it for group work, and I tell them I’d like 85% of their conversation to be about the assignment. Most kids are decent. A few a superb. Some do jack shit and I struggle all year to get them to do anything. And about 5% of the students cause problems and make it harder for their classmates to learn, but they get dealt with.
Not this year. Four classes of 30+, and in all six classes a full third of the 8th grade students can’t see beyond two seconds from now. My shit is getting stolen, students leave their binder in their locker when they’re supposed to bring it to every single class in the building, and their entire purpose in any given moment is to say/do/destroy whatever they can to create laughs/anger/shock in someone else, who could as easily be right in front of them as they could be on the opposite end of the room. A third. Of each class. And it is relentless. Every teacher that shares these kids is having the exact same issues across the board.
iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 1 month ago
Not sure if you meant it this way, but this comes off as a pretty flippant take on humanity’s evolutionary history and psychology as applied to a middle school classroom. There’s a lot more going on than just humanity’s supersocial nature.
Of course, we’re social animals lol but within that reality, we have largely been able to communicate effectively and engage in learning. What the original commentor is saying is that those kids, apparently one third of each class, are severely lacking in any functional communication skills and framework.
Throughout our species’ history, we have developed efficient ways of communicating and learning. These kids mentioned are not trained to consider (or, in some cases, are completely oblivious to) how their communication and behavior is perceived by peers, teachers, and concerned parents and bystanders. As was stated in the original comment, many kids think/care only about how their actions and words are perceived by their target audience. That has always been part of the learning process, but I see it has become more prevalent and somewhat louder/more pronounced in older kids than it has been in the past.
I see a lot of factors feeding into this, but I think most of them boil down to the increased isolation and anxiety experienced by teens and preteens, today, and the lack of exposure to/familiarity with efficient, substantive, and effective communication.
Growing up is confusing and frightening enough, and, now, these kids are exposed to a lot more information that’s increasingly curated into smaller and smaller sound bytes and memes designed to highlight outrage, anxiety, and disillusionment.
I think a lot of the “brainrot” culture we see today stems from young people wanting to communicate nonsensically as they are desensitized by the sheer amount of similarly coded content and communication they are exposed to. I grew up with other ways to shut off my brain and deal with the anxiety and inherent loneliness that comes with growing up and finding more of a sense of self, but these kids don’t have the same breathing room as I did.
To your last point about education systems fighting against social behavior, I actually see the opposite. A massive amount of studies and practices have been implemented on how best to utilize the double edged sword of our social nature. Nearly every professional development training or meeting I go to deals with encouraging positive social interactions and discourse. I think if you look to schools and districts that actually walk the walk of education, you’ll see a lot of progress.
cuerdo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
By which metric are humans the dominant species on this planet?
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The one thing that requires zero effort is shutting the motherfucking hell UP during a lesson, but my 8th grade students
Hate to break it to you, but for 8th graders shutting up takes effort.
radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Hate to break it to you, but this is my 6th year teaching 8th graders and my 18th overall, everything from elementary school through college, and I know more than you…namely, how these 8th graders this year are very, very different from any other group of students any of the 8th grade teachers this year have ever experienced.
0ops@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Used to be one of those 8th graders. Can confirm. My inability to shut up was hilariously inconvenient and consequential
peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Hahaha now I see why I was always the quiet kid people were worried about.
I was too afraid to talk and it was much easier being off in my own world inside my head.
Apparently that hasn’t changed much.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 month ago
Teachers are heroes. I’ve got your back. You rock.
glitchdx@lemmy.world 1 month ago
My class was like that, except it was K all the way up through 12. Every year, the same problem kids, and nothing could be done about it. Every year, at least one teacher quit because of my class, rumor has it that one of the high school teachers committed suicide because of us.
Good luck.
ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m on the spectrum so I’m not sure if you’re joking… But if you’re not, wow.
radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I am autistic as well. I am not joking. More details.
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
User name doesn’t check out.
peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You let your 8th graders sit together at all?
Damn, school has changed a lot in the past
Oh god 20 years
pH3ra@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Being the son of the employer doesn’t require any effort
M137@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Same shitty thing as a teacher saying your bus being cancelled or late isn’t an excuse for coming late to class.
VonReposti@feddit.dk 1 month ago
Well, it bloody hell is! Me not being bothered to get to school in time is also an excuse! It might not be a good excuse, but that wasn’t the question
orcrist@lemm.ee 1 month ago
After the pandemic I think a lot of teachers changed our lines. The reality is that people have a lot of reasons to be late or absent. It’s the people who are chronically late who have issues, not because the tardy count is important, but because they didn’t learn the material that was covered when they weren’t in class.
All of which is to say, it doesn’t matter if you have a good excuse or a bad excuse. It matters if you’re learning what you’re supposed to learn.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Uhhhh being on time is the worst! I want to wake up naturally and go to bed whenever the hell I feel like! I can get the same amount of work done 11am to 7pm rather than 9 to 5.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Okay, but then you won’t be commuting at the same time as everyone else!
VonReposti@feddit.dk 1 month ago
Be happy that your local culture isn’t 8 to 4 instead of 9 to 5… Bring a night owl sucks here…
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
7-3:30 here. Lucky bastard with your 8.
chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Smoke enough money you’ll believe anything the capitalists say. Money: not even once…
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Management is a rogue AI?
dumbass@leminal.space 1 month ago
Existing requires effort…
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I think this is a misquote. I’ve seen thing like this before and it’s supposed to say “things that don’t require TALENT”
slaacaa@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yes, I’ve seen that one. This might be either a parody, or some idiot who tried to recreate it
orcrist@lemm.ee 1 month ago
How much effort does it take to pay your staff more? Almost none. You don’t even actually have to do anything except tell your accountant to raise their pay.
Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Something tells me this is satire.
BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 1 month ago
Something tells me you’re very fortunate to not have had to work any minimum wage jobs.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 month ago
management has absolutely no clue what effort is. holding their desks down is the extent of it
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 month ago
I wish my handwriting was this good.
Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Which also requires effort.
nexguy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Of course Effort doesn’t require effort. It requires Ef and Fort.
CondensedPossum@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Things that don’t require effort:
- copypasta from 2017
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Anyone who says attitude doesn’t require effort has never had to deal with people when they are exhausted.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 month ago
boss, meet no effort spent preparation that I just did in 0 seconds
samus12345@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Things that don’t require effort
- Staying home
BenLeMan@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You know what doesn’t take effort? Writing stupid list like that for other people to follow.
Shark_Ra_Thanos@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Effort doesn’t require effort if I can afford to pay you to stfu and do it because you’re already homeless and will be fat soon if you don’t get to be able to make your own choices about what you’ll eat. Let me be worried about where all this money goes and…and…uh…
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I achieved everything I have today through hard work. And a small 10 million loan from dad.
Randomocity@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I’m a millionaire today thanks to had work and a billion dollar inheritance.
lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Tbf it may not have been his hard work, but hard work nonetheless
ggppjj@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Jumps out the window.