What does “human drivers of fire” mean?
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nick@midwest.social 1 year ago
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Well I’m here so I guess I’ll answer.
There are many human drivers of fire, the first and foremost being, well you know, lighting a fire. And boy, do humans light a lot of fires.
Take for example, here is a map of active fires around the globe, right now:
First order human drivers of fire are things we actively or accidentally do to light a fire. Ignition is a fundamental for fire to happen, and humans cause WAY more ignition events than nature does. Things like a cook fire, burning brush or downed debris for management purposes, infrastructure like power lines or fueling stations, car accidents, lit cigarettes being thrown out etc… etc… The timing and frequency of these events directly influence the frequency of fires.
Second order drivers are things like vegetation management, home placing and construction, and other biophysical drivers. For example, introduction of invasive species like bromus tectorum, which burns very readily, represents more fine fuels in the environment. Yadayadayada more fires. Other things around vegetation management would fall into this category, such as the suppression of fire, or the psychical thinning of fuels in forests, or prescribed burns.
nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Well I’m here so I guess I’ll answer.
Are… are you McCarty et al.?
nick@midwest.social 1 year ago
Thanks!
elbucho@lemmy.world 1 year ago
…such as the suppression of fire, or the psychical thinning of fuels in forests, or prescribed burns.
I’m definitely picturing Jedi clearing debris from the forest floors using the Force, now.
merc@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Take for example, here is a map of active fires around the globe, right now:
By “fires” do they mean fores fires? Controlled fires to burn crops, or burn land to clear it for crops? House fires? Bonfires? Campfires? Fires in fireplaces?
Ignition is a fundamental for fire to happen, and humans cause WAY more ignition events than nature does.
A car causes hundreds of ignition effects per minute. But, I’m guessing you mean a certain kind of ignition?
The timing and frequency of these events directly influence the frequency of fires.
The timing and frequency of things like lighting a fire directly influence the frequency of fires? Do you mean the frequency of out-of-control fires? Because otherwise that seems like a pretty obvious conclusion.
LucidNightmare@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Thank you so much for sharing something that you are passionate about. It was awesome to hear about, and I hope you continue to share the knowledge you have with others like myself. 😁
Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I use geospatial science and data to document, analyze, and predict complexities of wildland and human-caused fire, from individual to global scales. I have a particular interest in fire emissions and modeling, regional food security, land-cover/land-use change, and the Arctic. As a mom, I am concerned with helping children and future generations have better lives.
BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
AdmiralShat@programming.dev 1 year ago
The only acceptable use of generative AI is to get the shit posts out faster
fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 year ago
Those who are deemed “Lit” in academic language.
Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
It means she’s a trouble starter, punkin’ instigator, fear addicted, a danger illustrated.
Jerkface@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So, you’re saying she’s a firestarter? Twisted firestarter?
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
Probably just the totality of human influences on wildfires. This can include a wide range of activities and factors including climate change, forest preservation or cutting, changes in wild or domestic mammal herbivory, accidental ignition events, controlled burns, irrigation or diversion of streams, damming rivers, invasive species introductions, etc.
axont@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Found an article referencing McCarty as a “fire scientist” which is a really cool title. Seems like human drivers of fire is exactly what it sounds like, motivations and causes for why humans set fires.
merc@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
human drivers of fire is exactly what it sounds like
Dudes who drive flaming cars in stunt shows?
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 year ago
It’s my new band name, that’s for sure.
WolfLink@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
Something about climate change maybe?
huf@hexbear.net 1 year ago
stoy@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Funny, but what does the skin color have to do with the situation?
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
When a given demographic is a dominant presence in a given area (not necessarily work, it can be anything), there is a tendency for they demographic to start making assumptions about other demographics.
In most places, men are the dominant presence, and in most of the “western” world, they will also be white.
In this case, the individual who a white male was doing what’s called colloquially, “mansplaining”. He was correcting a woman when not only was the woman right, but was the very source he was using to correct her.
This is a consistent and very unpleasant fact of the world that white men will treat anyone of any other demographic as less than equals.
In this specific case, I suspect that the person making that post was pointing to the prejudice and stupidity of the person indirectly insulting her being a systemic issue arising from both gender and sexual entrenchment along with the privilege that allows the dominance of the white male demographic despite their being no quantifiable factor for that group to be dominant other than that privilege.
She, in other words, was pointing out a systemic issue by using an anecdote. Which can be a bit difficult to accept as evidence. Or would be if there wasn’t a good century or so of giant piles of anecdotes from real people pointing to that systemic issue not only existing, but being something that holds everyone back.
Truth? Yes, women and people of color are going to assume they’re right and whoever they’re talking to is wrong just like any humans will. But white dudes have been pulling that crap for multiple generations, and anyone that isn’t both white and male get sick of the bad behavior.
casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
This is a consistent and very unpleasant fact of the world that white men will treat anyone of any other demographic as less than equals.
Pls stop generalizing this bad behavior upon all white men. It only serves to further the divide, and is completely unfair and uncalled for against those in the demographic who don’t subscribe to those beliefs or patterns of behavior.
I’m not sure if that was your intent, that’s just how it comes across and it makes it hard not to completely write off your argument/viewpoints for being unable to respect your neighbor.
stoy@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I still don’t see why adding the skin color was important, but eh, I have other things to deal with, so I don’t really care, just found it slightly annoying.
ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
This is a consistent and very unpleasant fact of the world that white men will treat anyone of any other demographic as less than equals.
Citation needed.
In all seriousness, I understand your point and respect you for trying to deconstruct the mechanics of privilege.
But I just factually disagree with your assertion. I would argue that every human being has an inherent preference for people that they perceive as similar to themselves in some way, and this can result in bias along racial or gender lines. However, this arguably applies less to white men than any other demographic, because such behavior is so consistently condemned and shamed when exhibited by white men.
In contrast, people of other demographics are less frequently made aware of their own biases, because calling it out has not been construed as some kind of ethical imperative, as it has with white men.
It’s also well documented that women have a much stronger in-group bias compared to men.
In essence, women can be characterized as “If I am good and I am female, females are good,” whereas men can be characterized as “Even if I am good and I am male, men are not necessarily good.” This sex difference in cognitive balance suggests that a mechanism that promotes female preference in women does not similarly contribute to male preference for men.
HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
If the post said “a Black trans women interrupted me”, would that be also fine, in your eyes?
psud@aussie.zone 1 year ago
By calling out dominant race they imply that those silent on race are talking about a minority
charonn0@startrek.website 1 year ago
When a given demographic is a dominant presence in a given area (not necessarily work, it can be anything), there is a tendency for they demographic to start making assumptions about other demographics.
Isn’t she the one making assumptions, though? Specifically, the “prejudice and stupidity of the person indirectly insulting her” part? I mean, is that really the only possible explanation?
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
It’s a reminder than people that have always been in a privileged position often don’t realize they do.
charonn0@startrek.website 1 year ago
What privilege applies here?
InappropriateEmote@hexbear.net 1 year ago
It’s not obvious? Because white males as a demographic are the most privileged people on the planet and not coincidentally also the ones most prone to petty, oblivious arrogance, tantrum-throwing, and egotistical man-splaining. The latter was demonstrated by the one in this NASA scientist’s anecdote.
Dra@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
This robs people of their individual context. The UK Prime Ministers wife is Indian and astonishingly privileged. You see suggesting a poor mine worker from Romania is somehow more privileged.
Lumping people into loose categories (particularly based on skin colour) and then prescribing loose values to them is fascist and racist.
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
Being white is a huge risk factor for unearned confidence. So is male. Being both just multiplies the chances.
blindsight@beehaw.org 1 year ago
Did you drop a /s? This is a funny meme, so I’m assuming I just missed a joke.
Right?
(Speaking as a white male, white male entitlement, and privilege for that matter, are incredibly relevant to white men being sexist/racist.)
(You can trust me on this because I’m a white male. Also, I’m used to my opinion being listened to, so I expect you to as well. Just FYI.)
stoy@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Nope, I wasn’t sarcastic, I was slightly annoyed, annoyed enough to make rhe comment but not to maje a huge deal about it.
UnityDevice@startrek.website 1 year ago
It’s an American thing.
DinosaurThussy@hexbear.net 1 year ago
It’s an American reality. Race still influences much of American life.
Adkml@hexbear.net 1 year ago
All you losers acting like you dont understand why the fact it was a white male that was being the ignorant self righteous asshole just shows you aren’t actually serious with engaging with material realities.
You should all really look up what MLK Jr has to say about you white moderates and make an effort to remind yourself people like MLK Jr and Malcolm X think you’re literally worse than white supremacists.
aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 1 year ago
It’s an American obsession.
Are you just going to pretend that there is no racism anywhere else? It was the Europeans that colonised half the planet and invented the concept of “whiteness”.
stockRot@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You’re right, racism doesn’t exist outside of America
xkforce@lemmy.world 1 year ago
To emphasize the privilege this guy has.
qevlarr@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Exactly.
AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 1 year ago
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stoy@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I don’t know what that is supposed to mean…
rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
In the US, it’s all about skin colour
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Or even the gender?
Specal@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Male and Female aren’t genders, they’re Sex, Words used to describe biological makeup of a living creature, for example XX Chromosomes are Female, XY Chromosomes are Male, but there are also instances where XXY Chromosomes can happen, and things get a little tricky.
Gender is what we use to tell children how to behave based on their genetalia and cause dysphoria in them when they don’t want to do something but will get ostracized for doing what people with the other genetalia do.
cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 1 year ago
Also the gender?
thorbot@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You can’t be racist against white, duh
NotJustForMe@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
It is just mentioned. Just a description of what happened. What’s wrong about saying it was a white male when it was a white male? Why jump to the opinion that mentioning the gender or complexion has any other purpose than being descriptive?
stoy@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
What’s wrong about just mentioning it was a post doc asking the question?
AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Good god, no
Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
Nacktmull@lemmy.world 1 year ago
She is McCarty for sure but I doubt that she is et al too …
JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Taking credit for the work of people who are barely even credited in the first place is… a way of responding. If only she had disappeared behind the curtain for a moment, re-emerging with everyone there with big hair and guitars and eye shadow and screamed “we are McCarty and the Et Als!!!”
Oh well; next time.
thechadwick@lemmy.world 1 year ago
We’re all et al on this glorious day!
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 year ago
Maybe et al was their last name.
theblueredditrefugee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Common misunderstanding - her full name is “Jessica McCarty Et Al”
HollowNaught@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I always roll my eyes whenever I see a “you can’t do that because you’re a woman” character in a show, and then I’m always reminded that these people actually exist
player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
And then everyone applauded..
But seriously if I witnessed this, I might actually applaud because that is a pretty badass bit of trivia to get to whip out.
chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
ITT people baww at the mere mention of race and gender in a context they find disagreeable, and proceed to behave as if the problem is other people being too sensitive about race and gender.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
Hilarious. I actually witnessed this online when someone tried to “well actually” another user and it turned out that user was the author of the paper they cited.
AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 1 year ago
The @lemmy.liberals in the comments here being flabbergasted that straight white men in positions of power are privileged and embarrassing is very funny
Keep it up dorks
magnetosphere@fedia.io 1 year ago
Any kind of interruption seems rude AF, and that’s without even considering the sexism and insinuation that she’s incompetent.
What’s the norm for the audience in situations like this? Raising your hand? Holding any questions/comments until the end?
radio_free_asgarthr@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Not as confrontational, but had a similar experience with a collaborator. Due to the PIs’ old habits, our collaboration meetings were telecons (telephone landlines, rather than zoom or other video conferencing). So at a conference, I see a poster from a member of the collaboration, having never seen the faces of many members, and go over to introduce myself. This other grad student was in poster presenter mode, so as I approach he immediately asks “So you are interested in [collaboration project], how much do you know about [project]” and I point to my name on the author’s list and say “well, I am that guy”.
zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
That et al is the best scientist, they’re in all the papers.
aport@programming.dev 1 year ago
That man’s name? Albert Einstein
Dra@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Why is ‘race’ relevant here? What the fuck is wrong with Americans and how did they become so astonishingly self flagellating.
That said… this sounds like one of those fantasy scenarios where “then everyone clapped”.
Just on the insecure posture of this tweet, I’m prepared to bet cold hard cash that he asked her for clarity or something with a informational challenge “but does x not come from y?” And then she manufactured his reasoning and the rest to feel good.
niktemadur@lemmy.world 1 year ago
…later that evening, that’s when this poor wounded white male post doc subscribed to the Ben Shapiro podcast.
Obonga@feddit.de 1 year ago
I find it interesting how writing “a male” instead of man is a good way of pointing out “sexist mansplaining” and writing “a female” is dehumanizing (which i actually agree on). I will not deny that there are many sexists out there who are mansplaining or see women as less knowledgable. Without knowing the person (“offending”) however, i think we would be wise to use occam’s razor which would lead us to the conclusion that this is a prime case of the dunning kruger effect (which would also apply if sexism is involved).
Mycomment however has to be seen as mansplaining because i sadly have a dick between my legs. Sorry for that.
lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 year ago
As a white dude, I would be horribly embarrassed to do something like that. I hope the guy in the story learned a lesson from it.
therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
What does skin color and gender have to do with this?
azenyr@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Clearly the race and genre are both only being used in this sentence for bullying purposes. What could very well be just “a random guy” was specifically changed to “a white male” to really attack the race and genre mentioned. If it was another race or genre it would be called racist. The “white males” won’t accept this blatant racism many more years without standing up against it, trust me. But then they will be called racist. They are not racist only while they accept being bullied and accept racism towards them. This hate speech against white males is being completely normalized in america daily. And being used in comments, sentences and now even books in such a “normalized” way that it disgusts me. Just because whites are not a minority, doesn’t mean we can bully and be racist to them. And in this exact sentence, it triggers me so much that the “while male” adjective was used with the clear intent of bullying and image degradation of the mentioned race and genre.
When will we, as humans of all colors, stand up against racism against whites (and especially males) that is strangely being more and more accepted as a normal thing daily?
downpunxx@fedia.io 1 year ago
at the table, after his question was asked, and her eyes squinted in delight, it was at that moment he knew he had fucked up, he just didn't know how yet
boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 1 year ago
God damn crackers
humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Why’s she flexing about a paper that a white male couldn’t understand?
Also science is full of arrogant people, both males and females.
rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Shouldn’t it be “We are McCarty et al” and wouldn’t that make her have DID? Also /c/thathappened
someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Is McCarty, not et al. (unless bipolar?)
bloom_of_rakes@lemm.ee 1 year ago
My friend, a girl, was having trouble loading a large pumpkin into the back of her subaru hatchback. I, a boy, offered to help, but she refused.
After 5 minutes of this her strained whimpering became too much to bear. So I put the pumpkin in there for her.
Gabu@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Wow, so she managed to clone herself and use the clones to write a paper?
Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
He really said “get back to kitchen” and she responded with “I am kitchen”
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
DEAR GOD! The patriarchy! A successful woman…who’s probably rich and living in a nice house and owns a nice car who may have not put her face out there that much wasn’t recognized for who she was immediately.
Also who was that guy? what are his qualifications? Has he achieved anything?
AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 1 year ago
I would like to nominate Dra@lemmy.zip for the worst poster of the year award please
Retrograde@lemmy.world 1 year ago
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tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I wouldn’t mess with her, she contains multitudes!
geogle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That guy publishes a LOT.
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
obligatory: www.smbc-comics.com/comic/citations-needed
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Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Fucking hive minds
pancakes@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
We are Borg et al. Resistance is futile.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Is tenforward leaking again?