Submitted 2 weeks ago by Fuckswearwords@lemmy.world to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
Windows isn’t ready for daily driving imo, it’s risky to use such an unstable OS for high importance tasks.
It’s fine if you want to tinker and experiment with a different OS, but for day to day usage I think you should really be using something more stable.
Windows isn’t ready for the desktop.
You shouldnt put a window on your desk top. A penguin would fit nicely, though…
I remember during the last big win11 update i defined active hours which was recommended by Microsoft to do so it only updates outside of work hours.
Only for it to get reset without notification so all workstations started updating in the middle of work when left idle
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No, you don’t. Shhhh.
Simple rules of thumb:
Never use windows for presentations.
Never use powerpoint for presentations.
Never use your own profile for presentations
Always have a synced version to a URL that you can refer the audience to if the projector fails or doesnt like your computer.
A friend who did a lot of presentations said: always have backups for everything.
I went on a business trip with him once, and we all carried 2 bags each of equipment. Last I heard, he ended up working for a large entertainment company in LA.
I haven’t used Windows in years, but it’s kind of funny to remember because my Linux machines take at most 5 minutes to update (even with a hundred packages to update), and only require a restart if something important happens, and even in that case I can postpone the reboot.
Good luck anyway!
Windows machines frequently do updates without a reboot nowadays.
The problem is that when an update that requires an restart is pending, it changes the standard restart button into one that does an update and restart. You can often fall into muscle memory and accidentally trigger an update. When combined with the fact that you quite often get problems that go away with a reboot you can easily get yourself into OP’s position where they’re waiting for an update to finish at a really inconvenient time.
Nowadays, a lot of Linux distributions like Ubuntu, for example, will do an update and then tell you that you should reboot, even if a reboot isn’t strictly necessary. You can still ignore and postpone, but I think most users will see this as very similar to Windows.
Except for the fact that you can still use your computer while it’s updating. And it only takes one reboot (which takes the same amount of time as any other reboot) to apply the updates. And you have to actually tell your computer that you want to reboot. It’s really not like windows at all.
Not even doing an A/B partition kexec update scheme with VM live migration for all critical services??
Oh wait I’m a stereotype
remember because my Linux machines take at most 5 minutes to update
I keep kicking myself because I’m using fedora Kinoite on my slowest machine. It’s going to get arch eventually, but for now it’s just annoying whenever I go to use it for a few minutes until it finishes the update.
How is this only midly infuriating.
OP has embraced their inner calm
Stockholm syndrome.
For those still on windows, it’s very infuriating. For those that have made the switch, it becomes mildly amusing. Averages out to mildly infuriating.
Seriously, this right here is why I stopped using windows for work and switched to linux for professional reasons. Windows is not serious business software because of shit like this.
Hell, this is why I went out of my way to make sure I could control updates for my personal machine where the only consequences of it doing a random update would be that I can’t use it until it’s done. I didn’t even ever have it actually do an annoying update because the frustration was obvious as soon as I heard the term “automatic updates”, like this isn’t just for some program, it’s for the OS itself and will demand restarts.
And that isn’t even mentioning the undesirable updates, like the buggy ones or the ones that just enshitify your OS rather than add anything anyone wants, like all those windows 7 “get ready for windows 10” ones and apparently some people even got an automatic “7 to 10” update.
And then on Linux, every part of updating is nicer, other than the supply chain attacks (which is unfortunately serious enough I could see it threatening the entire Linux ecosystem itself).
Nice that you work at a place that allows that.
There are a lot of places that allow Linux in a business/corporate environment
IT guy here. When you finally can respond or join the meeting, make sure you cover yourself in feathers from a pillow and blame a duck gang for your misfortune.
Why not cover yourself with printed out Win11 logos and blame it on Windows Update?
You can install Linux in 5
And update while using it and restart at your own convenience.
And then spend an hour trying to get the presentation to run the way you made it. I love Linux, but installing Linux here in this time sensitive situation is definitely not the move for someone who has Windows already installed, presumably because they don’t know enough about Linux to confidently switch over completely. Some will probably be able to get out of that situation unscathed, but not most.
And yet, they would still be more likely to pull off the presentation in Linux if it’s literally not possible in Windows 😉
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I know there are large organisations where the laptops are configured to also update their firmware when users are trying to get out the door at the end of the day and the outsourced ICT teams couldn’t care less.
Microsoft continues to be the best advocate for migrating to Linux.
Linux.
In 15 minutes? WOW!
You could probably boot a live USB and transfer your presentation to it in that time.
LiveUSB of any distro should be up and running in 2 mins max.
When it happened to one of my students at least I was able to play it off and make fun of Windows instead of embarrassing them. But I also give full credit on presentations regardless of how bad they go.
That said, woe is you if it’s literally anything else, like a conference or a business meeting. Lol
If you’re forced to use Windows, you can minimise the amount of disruption from updates by remembering:
It’s much easier to plan around them when you know when they’re coming.
I don’t know if OP says this anywhere, but if it’s a company laptop then MAYBE updates are whenever IT feels like it… And you cannot pause updates unless IT feels like offering that to you… AND only for particular updates…
I know you’re not trying to be mean IT but sometimes you hurt me
Managed corporate computers give IT departments control over when updates are released to users and installed. They’re usually later than the MS schedule to give more time for testing. Good departments will follow some sort of regular predictable schedule, but bad ones can just drop updates randomly.
Windows 11 26H2 is actually a bit better with this anyway… it hangs on to updates that need reboots (instead of installing them straight away), so you only have to do an update-reboot once a month.
I think you can pause updates for longer as well. It might even be indefinitely but I’ve never bothered to look into it.
Nice.
This is why anything I need to do serious work on does not get Windows installed on it. Even OSX doesn’t pull this.
Sometimes it’s simply about being taken seriously.
I’m a very busy person without a lot of time to play video games. If I sit down to play (and on Linux!), I’m absolutely not willing to spend extra time waiting on OS updates. It’s great that I can configure my system to respect my time and never interrupt me if that’s what I wish on a device solely used for electronic card games.
It is exactly what I tell it to do, and that’s great.
It’s mad how many times I’ve seen people fail their tests in uni because of windows updates
And how many?
Mad.
In rooms of 70 students, at least one would lose half their test time to an update. There were 8 of these sessions per day
This was the main readon I switched to Linux. It’s my computer so I decide when it’s time to update.
Yeah, rule of thumb: you need your Windows PC to be available 100% at a close future point? update it now, reboot, and then disable networking if possible.
Also pause updates, it doesn’t stop all updates but it does avoid most of the forced reboot Micro$lop dishes out for weeks at a time. Disabling networking is ideal, no doubt, including the telemetry spam.
You have to ignore the updates for a while before it will force reboot during your normal working hours.
If it’s left alone overnight yeah it might reboot on you the day the patch came out. But if your active hours are set to something same it’s never rebooted on me.
Yeah enterprise images are set to default as 8am active time. If someone leaves their machine on they’ll switch to an inactive state at like 8pm or whatever you configured, and do the updates at like 2am and you should never need to know anything about it if something doesn’t break.
Not every setup is done well though, ive have several coworkers and I have Mac OS and Windows images want to force a reboot during work hours, 99% of the time it is either the user never allows the machine to be on when it isn’t in use, or IT dropped the ball on the image.
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OP is getting fucked alright.
“I’m afraid I can’t let you do that”
It’s your mistake, never schedule a presentation after a patch Tuesday
(I’m joking, fuck this shit, Wednesday I had to fight all the computers “OMG a new update it’s out, can I reboot now???”)
Too late now but grab a live Linux USB, boot into it to access your presentation and run it on an emergency.
Remember this day when you purchase your next computer.
Buddy of mine lost $1500 in his own hockey pool because of this exact situation…
I use Linux, so I don’t have this problem 😎
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Do you have a few minutes to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds?
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Just opened the thread to make sure someone was spreading the good word.
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Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Would you look at the time! Tux o’clock already!
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
Yeah but Linux isn’t viable for me because [very obscure bug that was fixed in 2014]
negativenull@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
i can backup my home computer, reinstall the entire OS, all apps, restore all the data, faster than a single Windows Update takes on my work machine
Localhorst86@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Their computer is installing updates, sure they have a few minutes.
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Our Linus, who art from Finland, Hallowed be thy kernel.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
He’s been in California for decades.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 weeks ago
If I don’t find an anti-AI kernel fork I might be moving to NetBSD soon. That sucks, I hate moving to a new OS.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Linus has always prioritized results over ideological purity. Which is why Linux runs the world whereas BSD is still just a niche project.
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Didn’t he jump on the AI bandwagon?
kuerbiskernoel@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
No, he said AI may be used for assistance in kernel commits, but the same code quality and comprehensibility as before AI is required.
He cares about the output, not it you got some code snippet from ai or stackoverflow.