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The reason the right are so anti Mamdani is obvious: they don’t want you to see what your tax dollars being put to work the right way would actually look like. Then everyone would want it everywhere.

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨sanitation@lemmy.today⁩ to ⁨workreform@lemmy.world⁩

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  • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    its why most democrats are against him too

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    • stickyprimer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Slavoj Zizek calls the Democrats “capitalism with a kinder face - LGBT rights and so on and so on.”

      That’s really it. They think the core economic system is working. They’re fine to greenlight social policies that don’t challenge it, especially if they think it will win them votes. And that’s all they are.

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      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Slavoj Zizek calls the Democrats “capitalism with a kinder face - LGBT rights and so on and so on.”

        Let’s not pretend they stand for the T in that acronym.

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    • GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My thought is that for many many years politicians didn’t really have to do anything to re-elected. And when they were asked to do something they would always say “we can’t afford that.” or they would write a bill that would promise “thing” will get funded 10 years from now. So these lifelong politicians have turned into lazy fucks just there for the money and are pissed at these youngsters that are actually doing the job they were elected to do.

      I have to admit I had been lulled into a sense of nothing will change attitude and now that I see how wrong I was I’ve become quite pissed off.

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      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Start rolling out guillotines and i bet they’d start finding ways to serve their electorate rather quickly.

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  • UpAndAtThem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s why the corporate neo-libs hate him too. They truly are in the business of managing decline instead of doing their fuckong jobs.

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    • David_Eight@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They’d rather support a sexual predator that they said should resign from being Governor a few years earlier.

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    • Goodeye8@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is there even such a thing as a non-corporate neolib?

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      • UpAndAtThem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think there kinda sorta used to be, in 2026? Naw not really.

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  • Zenjal@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I can’t remember who said it, but it’s like he got in office and saw the “Get Shit Done” button an jus for the life of him couldn’t understand why previous Mayors weren’t usin it

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    • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Josh Johnson

      youtube.com/shorts/SCKj7gwbYrc

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      • Zenjal@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Thank you! Josh fuckin rules

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      • anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Josh Joshson.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      DeBlasio was pretty good about hitting it. Bloomberg could hit it, but only for Evil. Adams was just an incompetent shithead who only knew how to take bribes and do photo ops.

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      • Emerald@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And awkwardly mention 9/11

        m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc9CUlunOuQ

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  • BillyClark@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Next, convert Trump Tower into affordable housing.

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    • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I wouldn’t wanna live in that gaudy hellhole even if you paid me

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    • Marthirial@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Shit no. That would be like living in Mordor. No, to hallow that place turn it into the Trump library with every floor an exhibition of the lies, stupidity, evil and crimes he committed, with the penthouse dedicated to the Epstein Files.

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      • Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I was gonna say to just like every wall on every floor with copies of the unredacted files. Name it the Trump Epstein Corruption Library

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    • Quokka@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And Trump into compost for affordable food?

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    • Impractical_Island@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Trump Tower isn’t mobile. One star housing. This is the future. Next.

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  • DementedSociety@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I love in Harlem. He really has been great! He’s just a genuine and nice guy too!

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    • gigaqps@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Edit: word

      You don’t have to add “word!” just because it’s Harlem

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      • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s ok, we speak jive.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Word

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      • Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Church.

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  • Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Same reason status quo democrats dont like him.

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    • anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well what about the Democrats huh!

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  • False@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How does converting an office building have zero cost?

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    • knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No cost to the city as explained in comments written long before yours in this thread

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    • Jump365@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They rent them out, so likely had a contractor do the conversion and then woth the rental income cancels out the cost. “No cost” is also just what that post used, doubt official documents say no cost.

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      • Impractical_Island@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Everything has a cost, even if it’s tickling pandas

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    • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      nyc.gov/…/mamdani-administration-advances-plan-to…

      Following a competitive request for proposals process, the city selected GFP Real Estate to develop the site.

      Note it said only 1,000 affordable residences, but 4,000 overall. A real estate company is happy to cover the cost and cede 1,000 units to affordable terms in exchange for 3,000 residences at market rate.

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    • GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It seems like a significant cost is in reading the whole sentence.

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  • UnspecificGravity@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yep.

    They are going to reach into your pocket no matter what. The only question is if your money goes to a bunch of rich guys or back to people like you.

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    • gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t know if I love that phrase’s use here as it sets up the government as some foreign entity that is stealing from you when, at least in theory, it should be the price you pay for your community’s betterment. Of course that’s not what it feels like in the US (maybe anywhere, maybe federal taxes feel bad always), but that’s an argument for redistributing power and fixing the underlying systems more so than it is to be upset that taxes are a thing (or paint them as… Evil or something which this phrase does).

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      • UnspecificGravity@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That is the point. The taxes are reality, you are going to pay them. Whether they are evil or not depends on what that money is used for.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They are going to reach into your pocket no matter what.

      They aren’t even in your pocket, relatively speaking. At the local level, you’re a drop in the bucket beside the big land owners and corporate industries. At the state level, you’re even less relevant. At the federal level, between intentional trade and deficit spending, you might as well not exist.

      The joke of modern taxation is how it’s largely unnecessary at the individual level. If the state simply planned it’s economy and managed it’s natural resources, everyone could do the Alaska thing where they pay you to live there.

      California hosts multiple trillionaires, ffs. Nobody with an income under seven figures needs to pay a dime to support that state’s spending plan.

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    • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sounds like here it’s letting a private company spend the money to get access to 3,000 residences in exchange for 1,000 affordable ones.

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      • Professorozone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And as usual I don’t know if I should be outraged that a private company is involve that may lead to questionable practices or happy that at least they are 1000 affordable units available. Both maybe? I guess I’m cautiously optimistic.

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  • PNW_Doug@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Civilization is expensive and can only be paid for on the installment plan.

    When you see what good your taxes can do, it makes you question why the rich don’t pay their fair share. They do not like this.

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  • Radical_Socialist_t00t@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The answer is simple: Capitalism has outstayed it’s welcome. Its time to go for Scientific Socialism. You ever watch star trek’s society in tng and go “huh, that would be nice…”? Well thats Scientific Socialism.

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    • Impractical_Island@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No it’s time to form a decentralized autonomous technotheocracy, what are you talking about? This is self-evident how the structure of the mothership will be manifested.

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    • Emerald@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Username checks out

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      • anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I mean, more like moderate socialist, but sure whatever floats your boat.

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  • SorteKanin@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The reason the right are so anti Mamdani is obvious: they don’t want you to see what your tax dollars being put to work the right way would actually look like.

    More like the left way 🥁

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    • kunaltyagi@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      🐑 🥁 🐍

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      • Impractical_Island@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        👽🎅🤏

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  • VibeSurgeon@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Office buildings are generally unfit for apartment conversions since they have so much interior space that isn’t really appropriate to use as homes - there’s usually a requirement that you get an actual window in your apartment, something I don’t think is particularly unreasonable.

    A great podcast episode on the topic: https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/551-office-space/

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    • Brkdncr@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lies.

      Office space is easily remodeled. Most high rise commercial buildings have windows. they are designed for it to be changed every few years.

      Older buildings regularly get turned into housing and sell well exactly for their unique characteristics.

      I lived in a converted building that had an enormous industrial crane structure inside of it. They had retrofitted a pool, hot tub, and basketball court on the roofs. It even had two stall parking.

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      • VibeSurgeon@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They have windows, yeah. They also tend to have way more internal space than your average residential high-rise.

        I’m all for reclaiming unused office space, but sometimes it’s just better to build a new building on the lot, that is fit for purpose.

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    • Postimo@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is there a written version of this podcast, all this article says is there are structural and governmental problems, ending with if we want more have the government doing it, which is what they did.

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      • VibeSurgeon@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There’s a transcript here: https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/551-office-space/transcript/

        But really, I recommend you give it a listen.

        My conclusion from it was that, sad as it may perhaps be, it’s probably better if we replace these buildings with actual purpose-built apartment buildings. The juice is not really worth the squeeze for these retrofits, in most cases.

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    • gigaqps@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They’re not converting the building. They’re tearing it down and building new ones.

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      • VibeSurgeon@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s a different story then. I could only really go off of the fact that the image said “converting”.

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  • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The real solution is to have the municipality build low income housing. The people responsible for the housing crisis should not be involved at all.

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    • thefactremains@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This time with more empathy

      The ~~real~~ urgent solution is to have the municipality build low income housing. The people responsible for the housing crisis should not be involved ~~at all~~ in that.

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  • Polisheocket@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I live in CA, and our tax dollars get squandered. Gotta be progressive and know what your doing. We have one but not the other

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    • anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Seems like CA is doing pretty good actually. What’s up?

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      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Seems like CA is doing pretty good actually.

        Then you haven’t been paying attention.

        Newsom is a curse. He’s carved up and sold out the state a dozen times over.

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      • Polisheocket@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Wasted funds to combate homelessness that went missing, funds not missing where not used strategically. Train to no where that cost billions. Employment Develoment Department fraud, billions lost. Misjudged capital gain spikes as permanent revenue, over stated multi year revenues by billions which triggered multi year budget deficits

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      • Impractical_Island@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        A two letter word defining a direction perpendicular to the standing plane, obviously. You people are dum

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  • sepi@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    BUT HOW ARE THE LANDLORDS (I am not one) GONNA AFFORD TO LIVE????!! THE POOOR LANDLORDS

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      BUT HOW ARE THE LANDLORDS (I am not one)

      So many of these NYT / WaPo Op-Eds are written by Landlords.

      The NYPost is landlord required reading.

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  • stinkytofuisgood@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I wish I could shake this man’s hand. We need somebody to do this in Canada as well. But our politicians are equally as spineless as the rest of them, just with a fresh coat of paint covering their faces like the clowns they are.

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    • lost_faith@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      just with a fresh coat of paint covering their faces

      Naw, he’s gone now

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      • stinkytofuisgood@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Made me chuckle, I didn’t think of that haha …

        I guess I’m just at the point now where I don’t care what government is in place either federally or provincially or locally - if myself and the people around me aren’t feeling any improvements in our quality of life, then I don’t give a fuck what they claim.

        Actions speak so much louder than words and the government is proving that their actions ≠ their words in any meaningful way.

        Canada needs radical reform. Sorry I can’t help but go off like this nowadays.

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  • Gpennyhigh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We can see how using taxes better helps people in many other countries and states, and like this where he can do good work that helps people and society, as public servants are supposed to do. People see it but don’t care. Just look up how much is spent per person for healthcare in countries and their health outcomes. Basic things are getting worse in us due to unhealthy policies they chose. It’s too hard to pass the big changes we want w/o supermajority and for long enough to maintain them. Even if things are passed that they want, they swing the other way a few years later due to propaganda, and it gets destroyed again. Stop doing that, support unions and the politicians that actually do too.

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  • PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hey Karen Bass! I’m pretty sure its NBD to get Mamdani on the phone. Just puttin it out there…

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  • darthelmet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    When basic competent governance is seen as radical, you know how bad things have been/are. I’m so jealous of the city right now. I’m seeing videos pop up every day about some new project. Meanwhile my town wont fix potholes unless you very specifically ask them to do so, and then they will only fix THAT ONE even if there are others nearby. There are not nearly enough trees and basically no functional public transportation, so getting anywhere without a car is a pain. I can’t get anyone in the town gov to answer my emails and while I haven’t been to a board meeting yet, I’ve been told by someone else who has gone that they’re so disinterested in what people have to say some of them have literally fallen asleep on the job. But we’ve just been stuck with them because my town are a bunch of NIMBYs who don’t care as long as their taxes don’t go up.

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  • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Corollary: where did those tax dollars go previously?

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  • Scaramanga@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wow, he’s a magician. He can create something out of nothing. I don’t think he’s heard of secondary consequences !

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    • AuroraZzz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t think that you are smart enough to know what the secondary consequences would be without being told by Joe Rogan first

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    • deacon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Image

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        The perfect reaction gif does not exi—

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    we already do want it that way and have forever. mamdani just proves it is doable

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  • brownsugga@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He’s a decent mayor so far and we haven’t had one of those since I’ve been living here

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  • Octagon9561@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Until he arrests Netanyahu and stops the NYPD from brutalizing protestors, I’m going to stay highly skeptical of him. At the end of the day, bourgeois democracy will never serve the interests of the people. He’s controlled opposition.

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  • jdr@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Rent control is a lottery, some people randomly get a good deal, but most people convertible to be fucked over.

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  • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I mean it’s no khrushchevka, but I suppose it’ll do…

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  • PNW_Doug@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Civilization is expensive and can only be paid for on the installment plan.

    When you see what good your taxes can do, it makes you question why the rich don’t pay their fair share. They do not like this.

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  • DudleyMason@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The far right are so virulently anti-Mamdani bcs they know it’ll get the compatible left to even more entrench their support for him even as he’s already drifting towards the positions of the center-right party that he’s adopted, despite them fighting tooth and nail to keep him out of office.

    Everything in politics makes way more sense when you stop believing the kayfabe and recognize they’re all on the same team. “It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.”

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  • BiteRabbit@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In red states they’re forcing urban city owned properties to sell. Getting the buildings out of gov. ownership and control is difficult. Doing it this way makes everyone overlook the taxpayer money going to a private investor later. Don’t look too close at the fact that Cochran Gardens, and Pruitt Igoe (StL) were both built buy Minoru Yamasaki, the same man who built the WT towers. It will fail and prolly be demolished in 20 years or so. The building, much like the towers, is probably to expensive to rehab. Also I will just put to people that our nations crubling infrastructure, is not a good sign as far as invasion is concerned. Liquidating government buildings so they’re not liable for their repairs, or so they are not targets of dissent, is also not a good sign. Investors are not investing money in the future. They are invested in the planning process of the future. Roman concrete is reviered not for its composition, but for its ablity to control a society with infrastructure. They say not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but the ‘too good to be true’ rule exists for a reason.

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  • feral_sh@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think they’re afraid of over reach. A lot of them would love the services he’s building!

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