cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/52502297
This is just slavery. Fuck the USA. What a nightmare to live in
Not saying this is Hell, but it's pretty fucking close
Submitted 7 hours ago by destructdisc@lemmy.world to workreform@lemmy.world
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Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
Malica@lemmy.zip 12 minutes ago
It’s spreading all over the world, I hope the rest are able to stop it
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Yay Capitalism! /s
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
Slaves aren’t armed to the teeth. Stop letting these people pretend cowardice is helplessness.
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 hours ago
Who does the 70 year old need to shoot to fix his situation?
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
I dunno what a gun would solve here for anyone? Shoot “the state”?
Taldan@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
No vitals for 10 minutes doesn’t make sense
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Anyone without vitals for 10 minutes would he dead
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They should have still had vitals with a heart attack
Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
If CPR is keeping your blood flowing for 10 mins then you don’t have vitals. CPR stops when your vitals comes back or when they pronounce your dead-dead.
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2piradians@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Long- and short-term disability need regulation. Companies cut funding to their own employees at times when it hurts the most while also throwing them to the health insurance vultures.
It sends the message fuck you, find your own way or die.
jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 hours ago
Why are private companies even in the loop? Where I live, the government pays disability.
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Murica, the ultra rich making anything related to the welfare of others “communism”
Basically 100 years of social engineering to convince 50% of the country that any that benefits them is evil and wrong
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 hours ago
You don’t ask for favors when your life is through
You’ve got a right to what’s coming to you
Your boss gets a pension when he is too old
You helped him retire, you’re out in the cold
Too old to work, too old to work
When you’re too old to work and you’re too young to die
Who will take care of you, how’ll you get by
Whеn you’re too old to work and you’re too young to die?
tyranny@crazypeople.online 3 hours ago
cracking tune
i’ll be playing that one at the folk club
cheers!
aramis87@fedia.io 3 hours ago
I don't know where the guy in the post is from. When I started a job with disability benefits (not sure if they were from the company or the state), they emphasized that we needed to look at the tax / take-home implications for if we were ever on disability.
If we had our disability insurance payment taken out of our paycheck before taxes were paid from our paycheck, then we would also owe taxes on any payments we got while we were on disability. If we paid taxes first and then paid for our disability insurance, then any payments would be tax-free.
Thing was, after taxes and deductions from our regular paycheck, we only got about 80% of the money we'd earned. And disability paid 80% of our regular paycheck. So if you paid for disability after paying taxes, you would still have about the same amount of income (though being disabled would bring in a bunch of new expenses). But if you paid for disability before paying taxes, then disability would pay 80% of your regular paycheck, and then it would be taxed - meaning you'd only be getting about 65% of your usual income.
I know it's not like that everywhere, and many places don't even have disability anymore. But if you're getting disability insurance deducted from your paycheck, it's worth checking the tax/income implications if you ever need to claim it.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Indentured servitude for the ability to exist.
ryrybang@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
He’s eligible for both the full amount of SS and/or SS disability. He’s likely not exploring all options and should talk to a social worker.
Ie, we aren’t getting the full story here.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
It’s possible he still has a mortgage, or is in debt or any hundreds of reasons why the tiny amount of SS isn’t enough to survive on for him.
This is my biggest fear, people aren’t buying their first home as early as they used to. Imagine you don’t buy your first home till 40, and you get a 30yr mortgage. You’re still paying it well past standard retirement age.
tmyakal@infosec.pub 2 hours ago
That’s the great thing: they keep raising the retirement age. Soon, I’ll be able to buy a house at 45 with a 50-year mortgage, literally work until I’m dead, and let the bank take the house because I still owe $150k.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
SS disability
enrolls 300 people per year. someone old who only had a heart attack ain’t getting it
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
This is pretty much what I’m looking at if I get hurt at work. At best I can get 60% of my normal take home, or if I pay like 50-100+ more, I can get a whole 6.67% more! Totally worth it! /s
lemming741@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 5 hours ago
But I thought all the Boomers were rich landlords?
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
thats why we need uhc
Waterpumpee@lemmus.org 7 hours ago
Some people are sheep. When you have literally nothing to lose, why not lash out on these mistreating you (and us).
Enkrod@feddit.org 7 hours ago
Go ahead, you do it.
timewarp@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Why not us, like a a massive group of people. As much as I hate MAGA and what they were pursuing on Jan 6, at least they didn’t just wait around when they were dumb enough to believe a pathological lying narcissist about their liberties being violated. We know our liberties are being violated and we’re a bunch of cowards. I don’t expect we’ll win against fascism if we can’t even put up a fight.
HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social 3 hours ago
72-year-old man with heart problems who isn’t sure he can even make it through a normal workday alive
This dunce: “what a sheep for not trying to murder his boss”
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 5 hours ago
Because if everyone did that, we would live in anarchy, and not in the good way. There is a lot of value in social peace even for those who are on the brink of society, because those are the first to get shafted. Also even a 72 y.o. can have people depending on them, so you don’t know if he “didn’t have something to lose” - he might have a wife at home which depends on him because of health issues, or he might have children that need support regardless of age.
Although if i ever find myself in a situation where i whatever i can lose isn’t worth much anymore, i will probably find an interesting way to go out. From my current standpoint, that day is pretty far away.
marduk@lemmy.today 7 hours ago
Baa Ram Ewe
feral_sh@lemmy.today 5 hours ago
This isn’t a common experience from what I’ve seen.
frunch@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Just give it a few more years 😐
feral_sh@lemmy.today 5 hours ago
Goodness I hope not. Maybe I’m in a bubble.
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
With no ageism intended, I see folks who are old enough that I wish they were retired still working way too often. Particularly at grocery stores (I think they’re partially working there to get the employee discount on groceries).
AmyAye@nord.pub 4 hours ago
I think some do it because they don’t know what else to do with their time honestly. A lot of older folks basically defined their entire existence by their job. Then they retire and have “nothing to do”. They don’t do or have any hobbies.
Like man, I would love to retire, even better if I could now, while I am young-ish. I could spend the days playing video games, or go walk all the local trails looking for birds and bugs, or just go to all the random little small town festivals in a 100 miles radius listening to all the random live music.
There is just, a lot in the world out there. But too many have no idea, or they have been hammered all their life that anything not work is frivolous, or they worked themselves to death and just can’t get around anymore.
It’s sad.
baddu@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Yesterday I ordered a pizza from dominos. The delivery driver took almost 5 minutes just to park and grab the pizza from his back seat. I was wondering wtf was going on, so I opened the door and saw him hobbling toward my steps with a cane. The man was at least 70. I quickly ran to get my wallet and tipped him whatever cash I had on hand. The pizza didn’t taste as good as it usually did.
Aceofspades@lemmy.ca 4 hours ago
Now wait for the media to frame this as a hero story rather than focusing on the broken system that requires him to work until his last breathe.
feral_sh@lemmy.today 4 hours ago
Damn that’s sad. Maybe I am in a bubble idk
InputZero@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Tell me you’re not labour class without telling me you’re not labour class.
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 4 hours ago
I was talking to someone the other day that got scammed out of their retirement savings.
Yes, he was an idiot for falling for it so hard.
However, he’s going to be working late into his retirement years.
feral_sh@lemmy.today 4 hours ago
That’s super tragic holy moly. I wonder how we can protect these folks and help them.
AmyAye@nord.pub 4 hours ago
What a short term outlook. If he dies on the job insurance pays out triple!
/s
tmyakal@infosec.pub 2 hours ago
Crossing my fingers that my wife and my insurance agent are plotting to kill me on a train, so they can afford the life they deserve.
HubertManne@piefed.social 4 hours ago
if I ever get a job again this will be me.
Gpennyhigh@lemmy.world 15 minutes ago
Not always, but often, people can save more and retire <60yo if they learn about it and plan ahead. Some people’s identity is too tied to work and worry about losing that. Of course companies should pay workers more and have benefits like in better countries, including healthcare for all, so boss can’t use that leverage. Healthy lifestyle reduces common health issues too, cook at home healthy, mindfulness and be active. It all works together, simple living, improve skills for more income, side work, and DIY saves money, live healthier, keep adding FIRE skills for better health and retirement fund. Mustachians unite!