Two factor would not help here. One needs to remember to log out of public devices before leaving them.
This is why we have two-factor authentication.
Submitted 3 weeks ago by ivanafterall@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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The_Hideous_Orgalorg@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
best to always use incognito browser on public devices. when you close the browser, it logs you off automatically.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Or just not be a moron and put your credentials into a random device in some store
Rooster326@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Why would you even log into a public device?
kevinsky@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
The amount of people that leave things like youtube logged in on hotel room tv’s is also moderately staggering.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Tv and app creators I feel like are also a bit responsible for this by not making it easy to do timed logouts when you log into a device for the first time. Unless you have a mental or physical checklist going its not a high priority
titanicx@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Probably because most the TVs are designed to auto logout after check out. So when you run into one that isn’t it’s weird.
Prathas@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Interesting. I’ve actually never heard of them automatically logging out. That’s partly why I am hesitant to log in in the first place.
Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
We just stayed at a disney resort a few weeks ago. The tv prompted us to sign into OUR disney+ account…
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ellipsis are wrongly used again. Why do you people keep using shit you do not understand?
RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Does it really matter to anyone other than the streaming companies?
If the next guy at the hotel watches my HBO why would I care?
Worst case scenario I lose my spot in a show.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
And lose your account and your google account if it’s youtube like the commenter said
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
And your account.
houndeyes@toast.ooo 3 weeks ago
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is peak timothy behavior. You know he went home to absolutely destroy his younger sibling in halo
rangber@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Wonder what Timothy is up to nowadays
sundray@lemmus.org 3 weeks ago
Ok, you’ve hacked me.
I hope you’re ready for what your about to see.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
2fa wouldn’t change anything
Hawke@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
[citation needed] on the second half
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
A big feature of sms is that it’s not encrypted. Every tower that recieves the message is trusted to forward it unaltered. This is one attack avenue.
www.helpnetsecurity.com/2020/11/…/sms-voice-mfa/
Things like the following are generally recommended though Microsoft recommends using their app. www.yubico.com
axx@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Briefly: look into sim swapping, which is the most obvious, day to day risk.
Then there’s SS7 and how inherently trusting the whole system is.
Then depending on where you are, some mobile networks still have terrible link encryption (were talking so bad a normal laptop is enough these days to break it on the fly). Granted, this is rare these days, in part thanks to the efforts of Karsten Knohl, SRLabs and other security researchers who did a lot to shine a light on this and SS7
Not sure how up to date it still is, but https://gsmmap.srlabs.de/ shows how unequal networks are.
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
“Hahaha hacked!!! … now let me dox myself.”
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Maybe that’s the name he uses so people think he is called timothy! And it wasn’t a sprint store! Classic misdirects
HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
2fa got me locked out of google after losing my phone so fu2
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You didn’t print out or write down the codes they give you for this exact situation? 100% your fault and not 2FA’s
PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Google doesn’t give you codes. They don’t even tell you that they enabled 2FA. If you log in on an android device, they will automatically enable it for 2FA, and for some reason they assume you will have access to this phone until the end of time, even if you haven’t turned it on in months. The only way to go around this is to set up 2FA manually.
Google has locked so many people I know out of their accounts it’s ridiculous.
HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
True but also I wasn’t there when other people had to clear out my apartment so I didn’t have much of a clue wether or not it would be saved.
Still know my pw managers pw by heart and have my gmail account pw written down but not that actual code, no.
TORFdot0@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Do you blame the locksmith if you lose your keys?
I could take the locks off the door to my house but then I can’t be mad when I get robbed
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Do you know what 2fa is?
Saapas@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
It’s like when people think VPNs will magically prevent their credentials from leaking while they’re giving them to some sketchy website
TORFdot0@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
But the YouTuber that sold me my VPN said it kept my online data safe (whatever that means)
toynbee@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Back when I was in college, I was young and dumb enough that I’d login to AIM on the college computers. (Nowadays I won’t login to personal accounts on anything I don’t fully control. I’m always surprised by coworkers who check their bank accounts, social media, personal email, etc. on their work laptops.)
Anyway, even at the time I was pretty good at logging out when I left each computer, but once I forgot. The next time I logged in, I was surprised to discover that my entire buddy list had been cleared. I never understood the motivation behind doing so. I don’t think it was particularly funny but, even if it were, it’s not like the perpetrator got to see my reaction or even to point and laugh.
I did learn a lesson from it, but presuming that that was the mission of whomever did it feels … Generous.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I like to do white hat shenanigans like this
toynbee@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
You shouldn’t.
If the goal was to teach me a lesson, there were less destructive ways to do it.
If the goal was to troll, well, that’s without redeeming qualities.
Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Brown hat more like
possessedfaxmachine666@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
sudo hack IP -127.0.0.1
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
What, how’d you get my IP! You haxxor!?
MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
A non-tech store had some iPhones and iPads on display. No internet. But it COULD connect to my phone hotspot. Wish I did something more than just download a rainbow six siege pic and set it as the wallpaper, but they took down that demo for I think close to a month.
blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Logged into what?
What’s a Sprint store?
If it’s a shop that sells electronics like Currys or Mediamarkt then why would this person log into anything on display?
fonix232@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
Phone carrier.
They have display phones and tablets.
And some people use those display units for social media for some reason.
Back in the 2010s I had a friend work in stores as a "device expert", he handled daily resets of the display units (this was pre-MDM easy management days). The number of people who just logged on to Twitter, Facebook Messenger, even WhatsApp or GRINDR of all things (yes, dude left his grindr account logged in, full of explicit images, which downloaded to the device's gallery, while the phones were most often used by KIDS in the store...), it was simply astonishing.
jayands@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Sprint
iswas a phone carrier in North America (pretty sure just the US, but they may have been in Canadia, too)kboos1@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Their called T-Mobile now they merged or bought them, I don’t remember. T-Mobile is owned by Deutsche Telekom
BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
No it was USA only. We have three mobile carriers that own all the cell towers here. You’re either with Rogers, Bell, or Telus, or one of their derivatives. There’s zero competition here, it’s ridiculous.
FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I dont care for 2fa. Not interested in having my phone connected to my computer, and i dont like having an extra step when logging into stuff – especially an extra step that needs me to use a second device. Id honestly rather risk getting hacked over ever having to use 2fa again.
chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
This makes me mad but I have absolutely no justification. Like, it’s your life. But I am incensed. Godspeed.
FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Thank you for the grace.
greenMeanHoppinMachine@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Use a Yubikey. It’s a small USB Device you can put on a keychain. It is still a second device, but it’s not your phone. And you always have your keys with you, anyway.
garbage_world@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yubikey is closed source and likely steals your data
Rooster326@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
He says having never had to deal with actually having his identity stolen.
FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Correct. It solved a problem that didnt exist for me.
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Why do you think you need to connect your phone to your computer?
You do know you can just generate codes and neither device will know of the others existence, right?
FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I have no reason to believe that the google authenticator app on my google phone doesn’t register and record that it’s being used to log into XYZ website, and further that XYZ website is not then sending back unique identifying info to Google about me when ive used the code to log in.
I’ve lived with tech long enough to know that if they say “we absolutely don’t,” it really means they probably do.
Like when they swore up and down and gaslit us that our phones aren’t listening to us to generate ads.
How many lies can I believe before I begin assuming everything is just another lie from a liar?
Guess im paranoid.
But that whole thing ignores that it’s an annoying second step with another device. Like “you want to log in? Thread a needle with the string in your pocket first…”
axx@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
MFA (a better term IMO for this) has nothing to go with phones, per se.
It’s just about reducing risk by adding more proofs that the person claiming to have the right to do something has indeed the right to do something.
Unless you have excellent password hygiene (long, random, different for every single site and service) the likelihood of having an account taken over goes up quite fast. The overwhelming majority of the population doesn’t, so forcing a second factor is a good way to limit damage.
If you don’tt like the multi step process, look at psskeys. They aren’t perfect, but they offer nearly all the security benefits of MFA without having to go throughthrough multiple steps.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
lolgottem
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That is not what ‘hacked’ means.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I’d counter this is exactly how a lot of hacking works
Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Absolutely can be
ButteredBread@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
SHH, HE’S A MASTER HACKER AND WILL HACK YOU IF YOU SAY SOMETHING WRONG
JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
This is hacking. Just because it’s a trivial attack vector that’s easy to protect against doesn’t mean it isn’t.
edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
A few days ago I though 2FA didn’t worked for lemmy but I just didn’t have timezone or something and that’s why I couldn’t login.
Image <-- Aegis is goated
axx@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Goated sounds disgusting.
dismay3915@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Lmao this is cute
spacegoat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Timmy was later arrested and charged with violations of the CFAA, SCA, and ECPA. He faces 20 to life.
deceiver@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
2FA won’t help if you leave a session running on a public device
greenMeanHoppinMachine@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s the comment I was looking for.
Prathas@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
To be fair, we are in a specific community…