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  • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m pretty sure my first gen Subaru Forester with a 1.5" lift has been more places than 80% of jeeps ever sold.

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    • EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      My first car was a Nissan altima, I pulled apart to get running. I wanted to go off road at a friend’s property, there’s not much difficult terrain, like bouldering or anything, just bumpy and filled with potholes that catch cars every time they hosted large events.

      I put a 2in lift kit on it, and after becoming confident it won’t get stuck at my friends house, I got a winch that I could store in the trunk, an extra scissor jack, took that fucker to the woods and tried a few trails popular with jeeps and Subarus.

      It’s crazy what kind of stuff you can get up to if you don’t care a ton about the car you’re driving. Eventually put the extra stuff in my pickup, and that car slowly got used less and less until it blew a gasket into cyl 5 and I decided I didn’t want to pull the entire engine apart a second time.

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    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So has my Audi A6 Allroad, bone stock. Actually, I think I took my Chrysler 300M to places no shiny new grand cherokee will ever be taken and that’s a low fwd sedan. People used to ask me if it’s been lowered and I told them it was just the factory handling package.

      Stock jeeps, besides the wrangler and that pickup thingy maybe, aren’t much good off road anyway. Which is fine because nobody who buys a brand new vehicle goes off roading with it usually. The Grenadier folks may be an exception.

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      • OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Stock jeeps, besides the wrangler and that pickup thingy maybe, aren’t much good off road anyway.

        Eh, I’d add old XJ and ZJ models to that list of exceptions as well. Those things could do some shit. Not quite as good as the Wrangler, but they were also much more reasonable daily driver vehicles, too.

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    • LurkingLuddite@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Also more than 90% of pickup trucks.

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    • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You sound like me - my 20 year old “toy truck” has been offload lots more that most of those garage queens (and looks it).

      I don’t look to go off road, sometimes it’s just necessary to get somewhere like a neat campsite, and it can do it.

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    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      my 08 outback with no lift and my old 99 tercel base model have been more off-road than 80% of vehicles that people bought because they might need to drive down a maintained gravel road to a parking lot to start a hike

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  • Two_Hangmen@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Every person I’ve known that has a Jeep: I LOVE MY JEEP!

    Me: You never have any problems with it?

    Everyone: Oh yeah, all the time. But it’s a JEEP!

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    • orenj@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Unironically this is just me with arch linux

      Btw

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      • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Linux is fucking awesome. I can just fix so many of my problems in the terminal.

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      • Markus29@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        For me it has been the exact opposite.Once you’ve set up arch it just works ™. On pop_os I get constant freezes and on W11 shit just randomly stops working.

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    • ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      My parents bought a Chrysler/ Stellantis product to tow their camper after I told them to buy literally anything else. Unsurprisingly it’s a heap of shit.

      The engine has a plastic oil cooler - sits in the engine valley, it cracked and leaked oil everywhere at 40k miles. Their plastic intake manifold leaks and sometimes when you start the shitbox there is a strong odor of gasoline (60k). The plastic valve covers leak (70k). Needed an entire front accessory/pulley assembly because the water pump was leaking - made of…plastic (80k). Shocks and struts are shot and causing tread cupping on the tires - 90k. In addition to this, when i drive it around I notice a few things - it’s loud as shit. The engine sounds like it has shit timing or a flat cam or something. Exterior noise is terrible you hear everything. It shifts like an automatic from the 80s and it has 27 gears so it shifts constantly. I’m so sad for them but Dad got a great “deal” on it, I wonder why.

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      • GuyIncognito@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Most Often Parked At Roadside. Company Highly Recommends You Start Learning Engine Repair. Doing Overhauls Daily Gets Expensive. Fix It Again Tony.

        I think they might have gone with “Stellantis” because it’s harder to make a derogatory acronym out of

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      • btsax@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It’s always been like this. Jeeps famous inline 6 that everyone raves about had the oil filter directly over the alternator so every time you change the oil you spill dirty oil all over the vehicle’s main electrical components. It’s like it was designed by monkeys and no owner has ever seen a Toyota

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      • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The Chevy Cruze I had until it ate a deer wasn’t quite that bad, but now that I think about it it was way worse than my Kia. purchased at ~50k miles, it ate a deer at ~110k miles. Notable breakages are the drivers side window become impossible to roll up/down 3x (fixed twice. Literally relies on a single bolt which holds the window glass in place entirely by friction) at ~80k miles the plastic coupler on the engine coolant line cracked. around 100k miles the plastic intake hose also cracked causing the engine to produce a partial vaccum when it shouldn’t and run super rough.

        My in-laws have been having a similar experience with their brand new Ford Edge (last model year car so best it’ll be, right?). First 6 months they had it it spent more time at the dealership than in their possession…

        My Kia is currently approaching 100k miles (acquired at 7k miles!) and in that ~90k miles we’ve put on it…I’ve had to replace the windshield 3 times and once I needed to clear the clogged AC water drip but nothing has broken that wasn’t a wear item or otherwise to be expected. Oh and the interior actually feels like it was designed and tested by people who have driven cars before, unlike the Chevy. This is also 10k miles after it was totalled by a hail storm so its really a trooper!

        Unless something changes I’m never buying another car from an American brand because they’re clearly all shit

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    • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Like the Alfa Romeo loyalists in Europe. I’ll admit the 156 and 159 series are still nice looking automobiles, but they are rolling junk.

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    • __hetz@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      “Just Empty Every Pocket,” or “Just Expect Every Problem.”

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    • P00ptart@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’ve got an '11 and have never had any problems.

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    • LonelySea@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Honestly, never had a problem with mine for 7 years of abuse, significant offroad included. Daily driving city mileage, shit roads, off-road nonsense, salt air, beach driving… Thing was a blast. Went all over the country, did the national parks, overlanded in extremely remote areas.

      Then the rocker arms gave out and I had a kid. So no more jeep.

      The 4runner is almost as fun though. Almost.

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  • thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I backed over my neighbors’ flower bed. Does that count?

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  • WesternInfidels@feddit.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    “Off road” pretty much always means “on crude roads,” and this bothers me more than it should

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    • doingthestuff@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Some of those crude roads have boulders over a meter tall littered all about.

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  • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Oddly enough the only time I was heckled about driving a 4x4 in a city was when it was clean.

    If I left the mud splatter on the wheel arches I never got heckled.

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    • EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      If you don’t “look the part” then people will judge harshly regardless of how (in)capable you are at something.

      Goes for a lot of things in life.

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      • queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I don’t wear a black hoodie to indicate that I know computer stuff, but it is remarkable how much more receptive non-techies are when I wear one. It’s like a lab coat for computer doctors.

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    • saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I never clean mine or have bothered fixing panel damages and paint scrapes. But I take the time to oil and fluid change every 5000 kms lol

      It wasn’t made to be pretty, it was made to be reliable and capable.

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    • Malyca@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Because you’re not, in fact, a pavement princess.

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      • Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        If I wash the mud off my truck I’m a pavement princess in the eyes of the public for the duration of the trip from the car wash back to the garage.

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  • ashenone@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Google once took me the back way up a mountain on a mild 4x4 trail while I was towing my 18’ trailer with my 17 year old Toyota sequoia. I’ve not respected a jeep driver since

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    • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      They’re fun to drive, they just break incredibly easy in weird spots. Like the seatbelt holder/guide? Why would that break. We don’t own one, but have rented a few of them when we go to Hawaii.

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      • ashenone@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’m sure they are fun to drive off road, but the only time I’ve been in wranglers has been pavement princesses and they are super uncomfortable and drive like steaming dog shit on paved roads

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      • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Thats the Chrysler curse.

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      • MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        We don’t own one

        Translation: I own multiple cars

        rented a few of them when we go to Hawaii.

        Translation: Has disposable income enough to go on multiple trips to Hawaii

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      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Well, if you’re renting, you have no idea what the previous renters treated it like. Just remember, you’re sharing a planet with idiots. They might have just been punching the seatbelt holder for no reason. And then you, not having that information, are like “why’s the seatbelt holder broken?”

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  • ininewcrow@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Other than that classic front grill and round headlights … those things are just glorified hatchbacks with a lift-kit

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    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Glorified hatchbacks with a lift-kit and a cult.

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    • FireRetardant@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The rubicons do have a good kit and package for off roading, they are rarely used for that when new these days. Locking differentials for example are typically an off road specific feature.

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      • ininewcrow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’ve known several friends who have gone out to buy and own Jeeps … a few with Rubicons … and I have yet to see any of them take them off roading, or even on a rough dirt road. I had one female friend who constantly kept hers shined up and would get terribly upset if any mud or dust accumulated on the paint finish.

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  • __hetz@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    How did Jeep lose the plot? It became a rolling fortress for tin soldiers.

    • Regular Cars
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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Well you just got me to listen to a guy rant in his basement bar for 25 minutes

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      • __hetz@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’ve revisited his channel off and on over the years. Most vids are, as the channel name implies, reviews of regular cars. I think it’s the first long form video of his I’ve seen tackling a brand and what has become of its image. The humor and dry delivery is up my alley, and I figured it was worth sharing here.

        I’ve also got family in rural PA and his basement bar could be any one of theirs. Those small towns and their old houses are frozen in time.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I live where being able to have the option to go off-road would be useful. But I took a Wrangler out for a test drive and it was like trying to fit in a Power Wheels. Thing was way too small for my tall ass. They didn’t have the bigger one to check out at the dealer I went to. :(

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    • OZFive@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I had a 1998 Jeep Wrangler. I’m 6 ft 6 in and and 255 lb. I fit in that pretty well. The box style cabin was very open and easy to get in and out of. Maybe it’s different with the newer ones. I haven’t tried one yet

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      • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I am the same height. I don’t even remember what year make the one I tried was. I’ve always wanted one tho because they are actually well suited to off-road stuff and you can just take the doors and roof off to have a kick ass convertible.

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    My hybrid bike has seen more mud in the past month than most trucks will see in a lifetime.

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  • Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Jeep hasn’t made a decent Jeep since 2004 now their just mom rides

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    • amgine@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Their mom rides what?

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      • kamenlady@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Their mom rides only indecent jeeps since 2004

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    • Tab981@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The last TJ was 2006 but yeah everything after that hurts my soul.

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      • P00ptart@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        JK is solid. 2012 got the better engine my my '11 has never had any problems. I know the engine will die on me at some point and I’ll just have to swap. Hoping someone makes a kit to fit the hurricane in there by then.

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      • Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Trying to get the 4 liter emissions compliant kids ruined the reliability of the late TJ’s then there’s the glass 6 speeds

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    • P00ptart@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I have an 11 and it bangs, never had any problems with it either.

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    • FireRetardant@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The tj ended production in 2006 and the last manual model had an impressive low gear. The 6 speed tranmission had a lower 1st gear than the 5 speed, and also somehow a lowrr 6th gear than the 5 speeds 5th.

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      • Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It did and if you we’re just driving it was fine OTOH as soon as the terrain got challenging the transmission checked out.

        I still stand behind the 04 being the last good Jeep

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  • ddplf@szmer.info ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I FUCKING HATE THIS GRILLE SO MUCH

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  • blargh513@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I remember when everyone made fun of getting a sports car or muscle car saying it was a way to compensate for a small dick.

    I guess folks who drove jeeps wanted in on that particular segment of being made fun of and went hard into it.

    Now those of us who do drive fast things are largely left in peace with our tiny peckers.

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    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’d be a lot more tolerant of people buying whatever they wanted if what they bought wasn’t so goddamn offensive and dangerous

      huge, loud, blinding headlights, blocks my view of the road, they always fucking pull up past the stop line so you can’t see if it’s safe to turn right on red, they have to hammer the gas to accelerate decently because they’re massive, they can’t fucking see anything around them because of blind spots and so they are always trying to back into people walking in parking lots, etc

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Everyone should just get what makes them happy and ignore the weird shaming for driving anything other than a standard beige sedan.

      Fast cars, off-road cars, big cars, small cars, electric cars, big trucks, custom wrapped/painted cars, ducked out jeeps, w/e.

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      • scoobford@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I agree in principle, but I do think people should be shamed for endangering others because they want to feel cool. Large SUVs and trucks are much more dangerous to pedestrians and cyclists and such than normal cars.

        Sports cars aren’t inherently more dangerous for others unless you fuck with them or drive like a cock.

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      • Slab_Bulkhead@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Damn beige sedans! they ruined beige sedans!

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      • OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        There are still pressing environmental reasons to shame people for driving very inefficient cars when they don’t need one.

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      • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I don’t think it’s weird for people who are pedestrians, have children, or care about the environment we live in to have some pretty strong opinions on this. Your choice to drive a big ass truck has a real implications for other people that didn’t get to play a part in that decision.

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      • NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        …you posted the meme 🤣

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      • blargh513@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        What’s wrong with a standard beige sedan?

        Infiniti M37x is a delightful beige sedan. Big comfy, quiet, a delight in so many ways.

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Big trucks and SUVs tend to be horrible off road

    I would rather a old minivan

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    • FireRetardant@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Depends how off road. Cottage dirt road? Yea thats fine. Genuine off road trail with 2+ feet of water in some puddles and rocks/ruts that you actually need some bumper height for? Mini van probably won’t cut it.

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  • makeshift0546@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I see wranglers and Tacoma’s all day on the trail along with modified trucks y’all hate. 🤷‍♂️

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Jeeps were really innovative when they were created… in World War 2. That’s when they really were off-road vehicles. The pattern was repeated again with the Humvee, or HMMVW. It’s not just converted military vehicles either. It’s also race cars and rally cars. Some series have rules that to be legal a car also has to be a production model. Sometimes if you get that exact model you get a race-capable car. But, mostly the cars they sell are variants of the race design, which maintain the fast-looking design, but one which would handle terribly if you put it on an actual racetrack.

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    • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I think a JLTV or Unicorn Stadium Super Truck is where the smart post-collapse money goes.

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      • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The JLTV apparently has a curb weight of 6.4 tonnes, that’s almost 4x the weight of the modern oversized F150 at 1.8 tonnes. Not ideal for a post-collapse world where energy is expensive.

        Those Stadium Super Trucks though. Also impractical, but those sure are goofy fun to watch.

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  • P1nkman@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Shit. I made edibles. Had to test them. Now high. This made me laugh way too much 🤣🫠

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  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    And they all have to have the stupid ducks and ugly body kits. They spend unreasonable amounts of money so they can look just like everyone else and on top of that it looks ugly AF.

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    • P00ptart@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I fucking hate people who display the ducks. I always just give mine to my kid.

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      • NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah, fuck people squeezing tiny amount of joy into their lives!

        I don’t have a Jeep or care to do the duck thing if I did, but man…calm yo tits people lol

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  • Malyca@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    People still give dodge money 🤣

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  • Slab_Bulkhead@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    no one has ever asked me this of my 92, prob do to the 100’s of dents and missing paint.

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  • doingthestuff@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I camp on jeep trails all the time but I’ve never owned a jeep. Currently driving a lifted Subaru. Thinking about a Tacoma for the future.

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    • washbasin@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Stick with the Subie unless you need a truck bed.

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    • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      My Dad owned a CJ4 for offroading out in the desert. POS broke down all the time. Ended up getting a Pathfinder and it was more capable and reliable.

      Across Africa, Toyota Land Cruisers do the work. Defenders look cool and break a lot.

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  • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You called them out so they just spent more, the meme tracks in many ways

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  • ApertureUA@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    my legs can reach all sorts of places lol, no need to bring a giant piece of metal with me

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  • schmorpel@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    • Laughs in Opel Corsa A

    Real people having to go to real places in the mountains here just use the car they happen to have, usually a small and cheap one.

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  • homes@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Pfft. My buddy has a 2010 Rubicon that’s been kicking ass in backwoods Connecticut. He couldn’t live without it.

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  • betanumerus@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Oh yeah, well I have an invisible, waterproof, rocket tank with integrated toaster oven. Just so I have the option.

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  • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Personally I love options which is why I hate cars. I love having the option of having 25 different subway services despite mostly using one maybe two services. I love the high speed rail on the NEC even though I never use it, I love the LIRR, and I love metro north.

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  • Randelung@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    “All the time!”

    Welp, can’t really prove it disprove the claim, so conversation over either way.

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