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The UN Voted to Make Food A Human Right, Only Two Countries Voted No: Israel and USA

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨theHRguy@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world⁩

https://hrnews1.substack.com/p/the-un-voted-to-make-food-a-human?r=1t17zr

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  • ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m just waiting for the world leaders, one after another, to cut all ties with both these entities. Will they dare? Will they form a new alliance? Will the world unite against the true tyrants? Stay tuned.

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    • Napster153@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They won’t unite out of morality, but preservation.

      Unfortunately, there may still be a long way to go, assuming the leadership doesn’t deny reality up until the nuke launches start.

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      • ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It depends what end game they all want for us.

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    • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The Israel’s “anti-jew/antisemitic” rhetoric only works with the west, so it could take a very long time for leaders with bigger balls to just say “that’s not gonna work anymore”. USA is currently on the path to self isolation.

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    • WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s already happening, but it’s in usually a slow disentangling of payment systems, software, tech, … Just cut and run would be very damaging. And like many things in politics it’s often two steps forward one step back.

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      • ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes I know it takes time, but hopefully it’s done while trump is still alive.

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    • Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Our EU leaders are sell-outs and still US bootlickers despite their act.
      The ghoul VDL is blaming Iran for defending themselves.

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    • MissJinx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not that easy when you have an insane person with a lot of nukes.

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If the idiots can’t see the trend yet, will they ever?

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    • smeenz@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      To the idiots, the trend is that the US and Israel are the only great countries on earth.

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      • Spacehooks@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “Best country with best president thats why we need to get him to run a third term”

        Saw that yesterday. Holy f…

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  • Wilco@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yea, and the US “vote” is actually a veto. The US needs to lose its UN veto power because of shit like this.

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    • pfried@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, it’s not. This resolution was adopted with a vote of 182-2-0. digitallibrary.un.org/record/3954949?ln=en&v=pdf

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      • vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Right, and the dumb part on is that nobody in the world expects this to mean squat shit. Even if it would have been unanimous.

        You don’t solve world hunger with voting.

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      • Wilco@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes, but the US no vote was an automatic veto. They had to remove anything that affected the US and then get all the other UN members to vote on it just to get it to pass. Any P5 nation with veto power can pull the teeth out of a UN resolution.

        A “no” vote from a P5 is always a veto. When any of the P5 vote “no” in the Council, a resolution cannot move forward. Council members can, however, resolve their differences and propose new drafts for a vote by the Council. They can also call on a vote from the wider UN membership – the 193 Member States that make up the General Assembly (GA).

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      • Kissaki@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What makes you think the second number is not a no vote?

        In 2021 they published reasoning with they will vote no.

        I tried to find a definite source, unfortunately there’s no immediate discoverability or reference. Gemini claims “The Standard Format: [Yes] - [No] - [Abstentions]”.

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    • Knightfox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Honestly, the UN has been a farce for a long time because of this exact issue. If a handful of countries have veto power then the whole point of the group was moot from the beginning.

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      • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Veto power is supposed to represent nuclear power. The logic is that it is way better for a country to veto a resolution than it bombing another country because they got pissy.

        I always remind people that the UN’s mission is not to solve all the world’s problems, but to stop countries from tearing each other apart and avoiding all out nuclear mutual annihilation. So far, it has succeeded.

        I also hate that it has no teeth against modern issues, like genocides of non nation state peoples. But genocide didn’t even exist as a concept when it was created. The concept was coined by a Jewish legalist who scaped the holocaust.

        BTW, same dude hated the guts of Zionist israel and warned that an ethnostate would lead to genocide eventually. He was 100% right.

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      • i_love_FFT@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The whole point was to get people sitting at the same table to reduce risks of conflicts… Without veto power, some countries would never have joined, which is unfortunate.

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  • NoFearFrontier@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Shithole countries

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  • Bazell@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How to locate evil forces: start asking questions about human rights. Noted.

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  • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’d like a list of all UN resolutions that (almost only) the USA & Israel vetoed, pretty please.

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    • StillAlive@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Israel doesn’t have veto powers as they’re not in the security council. They can only vote ’no’. 

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      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This is like saying Jim Henson wasn’t really on the Muppet Show.

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    • leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well, a particularly jarring one is the USA’s refusal to ratify the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.

      Everyone else, including Israel, has ratified it, except them.

      Because they want child labour, and to be able to keep executing children, and bombing schools, apparently.

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      • devolution@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Don’t forget fucking children.

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      • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Cheesus. Puts all those school shootings in a new light.

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  • Eddbopkins@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m starting to think that Israel is where most of the evil in the world comes from.

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    • liuther9@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      For some reason its always them somehow involved

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    • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Israel, Russia and the USA internationally, domestically they have more competition like NK, China, Belarus, some African States and a bit of South America

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  • Soulphite@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh the two war criminal nations? No shit? The two humanitarian violators? You don’t say?

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  • thorhop@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nestlé, claiming to be the country of Hydra, claimed a cultural and historic right to all the world’s fresh water, stating that it was promised to them 3000 years ago.

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    • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hail Hydra or something

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      • thorhop@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        ExSsSsSsScelsior

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  • dunestorm@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The USA is a shit hole country with a shit hole leader

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The US and Israel at this point are just the axis of evil to the rest of the world.

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  • pfried@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The article would be better if it linked to the reasons for the no votes and critiqued them. Otherwise, it’s just low effort outrage bait.

    …usmission.gov/…/u-s-explanation-of-vote-on-the-r…

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    • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The explanation given in this link is complete hogwash.

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    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Bothsidesing idiocy is idiotic.

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      • pfried@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s not bothsidesing if you take a position. It’s steelmanning.

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    • valtia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There will always be nitpicks whenever the resolution is not completely meaningless and devoid of any actionable steps. If the vote was started again just stating that nations are generally against starvation, then I’m sure the US would vote yes.

      But maybe not!

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      • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If the vote was started again just stating that nations are generally against starvation, then I’m sure the US would vote yes.

        lmao

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  • devolution@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Israel will be responsible for a second holocaust against them. And this time no one will help.

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    • TheGreatRapsBeat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I always thought it rather odd the country that gained its (unofficial) statehood because of a genocide of its own people have actively participated in committing one themselves. All by playing an oppressed victim.

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      • Gathorall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        A constitutional ethnostate being bigoted?!

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      • TimeNaan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This is what nationalism always leads to - exclusion and genocide. Even if it’s founding myth was resistance against those things.

        The nation state is the greatest tool of oppression known to man.

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    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Zios will be responsible for a nuclear holocaust for the planet first.

      • en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
      • brilliantmaps.com/israels-nuclear-missiles/
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  • Zink@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Living in the US as somebody who pays attention to the world and cares about people and stuff is absolutely surreal sometimes.

    It’s especially so when you’re one of the last people to have had an analog childhood (The Oregon Trail generation represent) so all the adults you knew as a child grew up in the post-ww2 prosperity and genuinely believed all the American exceptionalism stuff.

    The only thing it seems we are best at is striking the perfect evil balance where I can’t decide if it feels more Black Mirror or more Hunger Games.

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    • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Do you mean Gen X, Millennials, or Xennials when you say last to have analog?

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      • Zink@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m sure my anecdote applies to people from all three, and even to some of the boomers that didn’t ingest as much lead and have kept their head on straight.

        When I mentioned The Oregon Trail generation though, that’s usually an Xennial label.

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  • popekingjoe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I am shocked. Shocked!

    Well not that shocked.

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  • MyOpinion@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Two vile countries.

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    • smeenz@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s not how you spell cuntries

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  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A slave empire can’t function without extreme deprivation.

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  • Etterra@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Israel: we disagree because we don’t believe our enemies deserve human rights.

    USA: yeah, and can’t profit off of people or oppress foreigners if you guarantee people food, either.

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  • k0e3@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I know at least one of those countries is way overfed.

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    • smeenz@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Overfed with low nutrition and high subsidised fructose slop

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    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m pretty sure that the privileged are well fed around the world.

      Approximately 13.5 percent of U.S. households — more than 47 million Americans, including nearly 14 million children — struggle to put food on the table. Here the measure of hunger is “food insecurity” — an ongoing uncertainty of where the next meal will come from. More than 1 in 5 U.S. children are at risk of hunger (1 in 3 among Black and Latino(a) children). To the surprise of many, most Americans (51.4 percent) will live in poverty at some point before age 65.

      www.bread.org/…/hunger-in-the-u-s/

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  • ReHomed@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Insert the smuggie of “Any UN vote ever”

    “Insert good thing here” Everyone else: Yes US and Israel: No

    God we are the worst fucking countries

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  • bridgeburner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Isn’t also North Korea in the UN? Imagine North Korea does something better than the US lol.

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    • olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The US has done things far worse than what North Korea has done. Every ten years your “democracy” bombs another country.

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      • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The US is the most murderous country to other countries in history. North Korea is trying to be the most murderous to its own citizens but it’s got a lot of work to do to catch up to Russia and China.

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  • PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The fuck is wrong with US???

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    • bridgeburner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think it would actually be easier to list what is NOT wrong with the US lol, cos that woulld make for a very short list lol

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      • III@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Some pretty natural landmarks

        Yeah, that was easy.

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    • MBech@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh boy, where to start?

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  • pavlo101@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ragebait. This happened five years ago, as stated in the article. Why is this being brought up again?

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    • tias@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because nothing has changed since then, except for the worse.

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    • metakrakalaka@lemmychan.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Today, I will remind them.

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  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There’s nothing mild about the fury this inspires in me.

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  • BigMacHole@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is FALSE! Israel and (Israel) is ONE Country!

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Of course. Evil shits want everyone to starve to death do they can steal their lands

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  • AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And when that fertilizer shortage and soybean bullshit causes farmers to have a terrible harvest, and the U.S. asks for help from the world, I hope the world will reference this vote when they tell us no.

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  • Logical@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    US really trying its best to be the worst. Land of the expensive and unfree.

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  • Smaile@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ok so WW3 is going to be 3 fronts now is it?? fitting if not definitely infuriating

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  • carldiortus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Please reply - what other things are a human right?

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    • TeddE@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Access to information - Internet access should be made a human right

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    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      For corporations to buy politicians and stuff like that.

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    • lemmywinksthegerbilking@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      life, privacy, information

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