Sure, if you want the battery to short out and start a fire.
Cut the tips off then drill out the screws so they break off the next time they use it
Home renovations
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kboos1@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
tomiant@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Seriously though, this is def something you take up with the landlord, the fines and payment for the repairs alone will be punishment enough.
ikidd@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A car battery would do shit all. Dry skin potential point is like 65V.
CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
I highly doubt the electricity would flow to the pole itself at all if you connect both contacts to the top
yobasari@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
The screws will melt and probably start a fire with the wood they are screwed into. The pole might get hot too from the current that goes rhrough the fasteners but most of the heat would be in the screws and the fasteners and dissipate before it reaches the pole. Hardly any current will flow through the pole itself.
one_knight_scripting@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Theoretically, the building is ground and you only need to connect one cable.
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
How thin would your floors and ceilings need to be for this to be real?
tomiant@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I got drill bits that can go pretty deep. The reason this shit doesn’t happen to professionals like myself is that I am scared of electricity and power tools and have no clue what I’m doing and have people do it for me.
SMH
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
My browser history now includes several Amazon listings for stripper poles.
I have learned that:
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The listing ALWAYS calls them “dancing poles” but Amazon knows what you mean,
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About half of them are sold as “unisex” even though all of the photos of them in use show women,
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Only some require drilling into the ceiling. The few that do ship with screws or lag bolts that are approx. 2 inches in length and come with drywall anchors.
So, if installing any of the poles from Amazon’s first page of results, your floor would have to be approximately 1.5 inches thick.
If the downstairs apartment had no ceiling treatment and you looked up at joists and subfloor, you might get here if she decided to attach between the ceiling joists. In a typical residential structure with a drywall ceiling, you’d need lag bolts some 10 or 12 inches long to reach through the plate of the pole, 3/4" of drywall, 8 or 10 inches of floor system depending, 3/4" of subfloor and 1/2" of flooring.
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Excellent answer.
I suspected the same, but metrically.
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starik@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
tomiant@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
That only solves your problem. It doesn’t add problems for the perpetrator, which is the only thing we are concerned with here.
starik@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You can use it on them too
errer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Doesn’t actually solve your problem…you further fuck up your own hardwood
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
add a drop of mercury on each screw
D_C@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Cut the hands off the downstairs neighbour with it. Now they don’t need a stripper pole. Pole gets removed and everything goes back to normal (after all the court cases and prison time etc).
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Hammer and punch them back down. Or drip lube down the bolts so it makes the pole unusable.
hellfire103@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Or glue. Glue would be hilarious.
atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is cute, but also in case anyone needs to learn something today:
AshLassay@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That wiki says it’s common in hospitals and labs. Interstitial space is not the same as a floor cavity.
Also
The heights of these spaces are generally 6 to 8 feet (1.8 to 2.4 m) and allow easy access for repair or alteration
So yeah not common in a residential building.
bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
1.8m!? There’s no way in hell a landlord would allow such a perfectly fine living space to go the waste!
atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ah, thanks, I couldn’t seem to find the right term. I was looking for “truss space” or something related. “Floor cavity” or I guess “joist cavity” looks like what I was looking for.
Mubelotix@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
Tell me you are american without telling me you are american
Mesophar@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
This bit has nothing to do with America, we don’t have that kind of space between floors in residential buildings, either. You have plenty of real things to shit on us for, but this isn’t one of them.
one_knight_scripting@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Disagree. DC current will seek the path of least resistance, and will not go down the pole.
I’m unsure if this is an apartment, but I would start by reaching out to the landlord and say your lights have been acting up whenever they are using it. Maybe say your electric bill has been higher, maybe stage that a little bit by simply leaving a light on for a month. Have them inspect the floor damage too.
Once they leave, I would install cannibalize a power cable, plug it into the wall and hook the hot wire up to one of the screws.
The benefit of using AC, is that it is less likely to take the path of least resistance and travels as waves back and forth, doesn’t necessarily matter if they are grounded or not, they will feel it, likely marginally lower since it is also going into everything their 8ft pole is touching.
…I don’t know why I’m on a villain arc this morning.
thewebroach@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Small correction- AC power doesn’t “travel in waves”. It just oscillates up and down with respect to its reference, and same with its current with respect to its impedance. Just looks like a wave if you look at its position over time.
With a completed circuit with low impedance, it would trip your breaker. With completed circuit with large enough impedance to not trip breaker, it might burn your apartment down in a number of ways. Could also kill neighbor if they are somehow making a return path, as current disrupts your nervous system where once they get caught in the shock they lose control of their muscles and are held in the current unable to let go, electrocuting them until death. If insulation is high enough to effectively be an open circuit, your neighbor on the pole wouldn’t know it was electrified in the same way a bird sitting up on a power line doesn’t have a clue its anything but a normal wire in the air. Largely depends on how the pole is installed and if its touching any metal or electrical wires where it is mounted on top, bottom, or both. Also if neighbor is ground level or if another apartment beneath them. A lot of variables create.a lot of possible outcomes.
Would not recommend, lot of risks with little to no chance of any reward
Quatlicopatlix@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Rhis is so much bullshit… car batterie wont do shit because
- You wont feel 12v at like 60v you maybe start to feel something depending on how you are connected…
- You get shocked because the neutral and litteral earth are connected. Not because of reflecting waves…
one_knight_scripting@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
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Do yourself a favor, don’t ever touch a car battery. It will hurt and you will feel it. They show that in movies as torture for a reason. It’s not the voltage in this case, it’s the current. Those batteries are capable of 550 CCA (cold cranking amps). Warm that battery is 685 CA. In fact I think I would consider the car battery more dangerous.
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In alternating current the electrons move back and forth across the material similar to a wave striking the shore of a tropical beach… No one said anything about reflecting. Have you never been shocked by an outlet? Shoot, I grew up in a trailer with a short on the front door. If you touched the metal, it wouldn’t even hurt, but you’d certainly know.
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LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Step one of leaving a light on for a month might be a big hole in this plan those days. Electricity diff would be like a dollar or 2 at worst because bulbs are like 12 watts now. If the temperature went up by a couple degrees one day the AC would make it fluctuate more than that and you wouldn’t even notice on a bill
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I’ll be assuming the pole is not grounded (electrically isolated from Earth, the earth pin of sockets, radiators, plumbing etc.)
The difference is not DC vs AC but between it being connected across two screws, for which a high current source (hundreds of amps at negligible voltage) will heat the metal up - as opposed to connecting a voltage (like 120V mains for AC or 170V single-diode-rectified & smoothed mains for DC) referenced to ground to the pole. The former will draw a lot of current from the source through the screws and metal between them, heating it up. A car battery could briefly deliver hundreds of amps and several kW, making them glow red hot. The latter will create a potential between the pole and ground, which will only draw current when a load is connected between the pole and the ground. For AC, a person’s body’s capacitance to ground, even with insulating shoes, is enough to feel a tingle. For AC or DC of sufficient voltage (above 60 V), they will get a shock if they touch ground and the pole, completing the circuit.
Tehhund@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Make friends with the legends who live downstairs.
altphoto@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
A car battery would not do much. Let’s try 40kHz AC?
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Did you mean kV? I don’t know if 40kHz is high enough, but I know at some point it doesn’t even shock anymore, just burns. Hence you can take a screwdriver in your hand, and get it close to high frequency Tesla coil / slayer exciter circuit (not that I know the difference) and have it flow through you no problem, just if you touch the spark directly it burns.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Ah btw, if there’s resistance while drilling a hole for a ceiling lamp, stop.
Could be heating pipe, with decades old heating sludge.ecvanalog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s just quitter talk.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Decades old sludge dripping on your face just seems like good practise for what’s to come
einlander@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Running a sufficient amount of electricity through it may turn it into a heated rod.
peopleproblems@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah my landlord wouldn’t be too happy.
merc@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Frangible nuts. Get the load onto the nuts instead of the floor/ceiling. Wait until the neighbour is in the middle of something very physical, then blow the charge allowing the bolts (screws) to slip.
kokesh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
DC won’t help. Even mains needs them to be grounded to get a good shock
Get a Tesla coil transformer, hook up the single lead to one of the screws. Works more like an antenna in reverse.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Could you get a really big drill and drill out the screws?
Then when they try to use the pole it falls down.
blarghly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This would be an extremely time consuming and potentially destructive process.
First, take a grinder and chop off the tips. Then go to the hardware store and get a 1/8, or maybe 3/16, bit that you think is long enough (note- these are expensive). Then go home. Tap a pilot divot in the flattened tip of the lag bolt to get started. Drill your bit all the way through the bolt without snapping it. Take frequent breaks to cool the bit and avoid dulling the edge. Note that bolts tend to be made of quite hard steel to deal with the high forces they are put under, so expect this to take an annoyingly long time. Then do it again with a slightly larger drill bit. Then again. And then again. Etc. Until your bit is just barely smaller than the bolt. Finally, you go in with a drill bit as large as the bolt, and absolutely destroy all your hard work, tearing down the sides of the bolt in a haphazard way. With a large amount of finagling and cursing, you manage to set the bit in thr hole in the top of yhe stripper pole, and finally completely destroy the bolt, so the remains fall on the floor below.
Far more expedient would be using the grinder to grind the tip off, then cut a slot in the flat surface you made. Or maybe a +. Then put either a flat or phillips bit in your impact driver, and reverse the bolt out. How well this works depends on how hard they cranked down the bolts. If this fails, I would get a hole saw, cut around the bolts, and clamp some vice grips to them to turn them out from above.
But really, I would call a real estate lawyer and force my neighbor to pay a contractor to do all the work for me.
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Great guide, but you forgot the step where the bit snaps inside the bolt so you now you have get through that too.
socsa@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
You are going to need more voltage.
Dave@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
Ok but for real, that wouldn’t work, right? How would them holding it complete the circuit? The circuit is just gonna be from one screw to the top of the pole back through another screw, not the part the person is holding.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You can short the terminals on a car battery with your body with no issue, but It might melt the hardware and set the floor on fire! What they should really do is connect a HV source and charge up the pole. Won’t cause any lasting harm, but hopefully it’ll convince them they drove a screw through a live wire.
asbestos@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Who the hell told you you can short a car battery with your body? You absolutely can’t.
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I mean, a car battery isn’t going to do anything even if you could complete a circuit. You can just grab the terminals on a car battery, 12V isn’t high enough to be noticeable on dry skin.
You’d want to solder on the hot lead of an extension cord hooked up to 120 if you wanted to make sure they never touch that pole again.
Disclaimer: don’t do this, it’ll probably kill.
Balaquina@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
A electric horse fence is a better option. Will zing you but isn’t lethal and also has an intermittent current. Specifically designed to be touched by living things without harm. But stay away from cattle fencing, that can kill someone with a heart condition.
axexrx@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I think there is potential for some non lethal zapping if done right (one terminal to the poles other to ground)
Your skin is where most of the body’s resistance is, and electrocution / shock can occur at much lower voltages if applied internally/ to a cut.
There’s an urban legend about a navy Electrical engineer stopping his heart by trying to measure his internal resistance with a voltmeter- he stabbed one probe into each of his thumbs and the portion of a single volt the meter uses to test resistance going across his heart was enough to cause afib.
Now, with pole dancing, theres some potential, for a sweaty bikini to make contact with both an electrified pole and the interior of the dancer’s labia, conducting enough electricity to impart a noticeable shock.
No matter the voltage though, I think the main problem is the body being part of the least resistive, or any, path to ground. Unless the screws holding the bottom of the pole also protruded through the downstairs neighbor’s ceiling, and you run the negative wire out your window and into theirs, connecting both ends of the pole to the battery…
red_tomato@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not if the person two floors downstairs is in on it
merc@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
For someone to get electrocuted, the current needs to flow through their body. Electricity always follows the path of least resistance, so there’s basically no way to do that from upstairs.
If you attach both terminals of the battery (or a stripped extension wire) that wouldn’t do it. Assuming the pole is conductive, the electricity would just go into the screws, into the pole, across to the other screw and out. If the pole isn’t conductive it would probably do nothing at all. Maybe the floor is conductive, in which case it would go into the screw, through the floor/ceiling and out the other screw. There’s just no way to do it where the electricity flows from a screw, down the pole, into the body of the pole dancer, then somehow back out and up to the battery.
Even if the person who owned the stripper pole wanted to electrocute themselves it would be difficult. Assuming the pole is conductive, if you attached one electrode near the ceiling and one near the floor, the electricity would just flow through the pole. It wouldn’t make a detour to go through the body of the pole dancer. You’d basically have to clip one side of the battery to your toe, the other side to the stripper pole, and then grab the pole with your hands. And, even then, it might not do it – you’d have to have sweaty hands and toes to make the path through your body conductive.
I really hate the movie trope where people can get electrocuted by stepping into a puddle that has something electricity-related in it. It’s almost as bad as the trope that you get blasted backwards if you’re hit by a bullet / shotgun blast.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Incorrect.
stripper poles are tubes and spin on bearings. follow these instructions and you can most certainly electrocute someone with one.
HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Nah, that wouldn’t. But if you connected just the hot line (right eye of the outlet smiley face) that would do it. Wouldn’t recommend it because you could kill them by electrocution or kill even more people with a fire.